Coreece 190 #51 March 13, 2009 Quote Interesting how so many of the professed christians..are not willing to render Caesar's things to Caesar.. even though THE BOOK... THE WORD OF GOD..... tells them to. that's a nice plump juicy strawberry you got there.... Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #52 March 13, 2009 Quote Quote Interesting how so many of the professed christians..are not willing to render Caesar's things to Caesar.. even though THE BOOK... THE WORD OF GOD..... tells them to. that's a nice plump juicy strawberry you got there.... Interesting that so many professed "conservative" right wing posters who are also self professed christians....AROUND HERE whine and bitch to high heaven ( even though most of them are not in affected tax brackets) that they might have to render that which is Caesars unto Caesar that which he uses to pay for all the things that those same posters want to use.. but apparently not pay for Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #53 March 13, 2009 Quote>by voluntary charity and tithing, not by coercion Matthew 22: "Teacher, we know that You are true, and teach the way of God in truth; nor do You care about anyone, for You do not regard the person of men. Tell us, therefore, what do You think? Is it lawful to pay taxes to Caesar, or not?” But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, “Why do you test Me, you hypocrites? Show Me the tax money.” So they brought Him a denarius. And He said to them, “Whose image and inscription is this?” They said to Him, “Caesar’s.” And He said to them, “Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.” That's correct - give to Caesar what is Caesar's (taxes) and give to God what is God's (charity). Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. II Corinthians 9:7 Nice try, though.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #54 March 13, 2009 QuoteInteresting how so many of the professed christians..are not willing to render Caesar's things to Caesar.. even though THE BOOK... THE WORD OF GOD..... tells them to. You're absolutely right - Geithner and Daschle and... who is it THIS week? Anyway, they should be SO ashamed!!!Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #55 March 13, 2009 Bill et al don't understand that Christians don't have an issue with paying taxes for government. It's over taxation to pay for services that should not be rendered by the government that's the issue. To those who believe in the supremacy of the State, that difference is completely lost. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #56 March 13, 2009 Quote Quote >by voluntary charity and tithing, not by coercion Matthew 22: "Teacher, we know that You are true, and teach the way of God in truth; nor do You care about anyone, for You do not regard the person of men. Tell us, therefore, what do You think? Is it lawful to pay taxes to Caesar, or not?” But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, “Why do you test Me, you hypocrites? Show Me the tax money.” So they brought Him a denarius. And He said to them, “Whose image and inscription is this?” They said to Him, “Caesar’s.” And He said to them, “Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.” That's correct - give to Caesar what is Caesar's (taxes) and give to God what is God's (charity). Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. II Corinthians 9:7 Nice try, though. I actually agree with mnealtx on something.If helping the poor = rendering unto the lord (in other words, it is doing God's work) then it isn't necessarily also something you "render unto Caesar." In other words, there is no Christian mandate to do God's work ( helping the poor) through Caesar (ie, through taxes & government programs). You should do it yourself, voluntarily, or out of a sense of "rendering unto the Lord" (ie, help the poor through the Church. That's why there is a poor box). Throughout most of Christian history, it was the Church that was the safety net for the poor. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,173 #57 March 13, 2009 >Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not >reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. Correct! And as you know, that applies to charity. A little more of that: =========== 2 Corinthians 9: Therefore I thought it necessary to exhort the brethren to go to you ahead of time, and prepare your generous gift beforehand, which you had previously promised, that it may be ready as a matter of generosity and not as a grudging obligation. But this I say: He who sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and he who sows bountifully will also reap bountifully. So let each one give as he purposes in his heart, not grudgingly or of necessity; for God loves a cheerful giver. And God is able to make all grace abound toward you, that you, always having all sufficiency in all things, may have an abundance for every good work. As it is written: “He has dispersed abroad, He has given to the poor; His righteousness endures forever.” ========= So give charity cheerfully, without compulsion. And pay your taxes, because that's the government's money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #58 March 13, 2009 QuoteSo give charity cheerfully, without compulsion. And pay your taxes, because that's the government's money. I do both, thanks. So when is Caesar going to quit trying to do God's work? (keeping in theme, here)Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #59 March 13, 2009 QuoteQuoteSo give charity cheerfully, without compulsion. And pay your taxes, because that's the government's money. I do both, thanks. So when is Caesar going to quit trying to do God's work? (keeping in theme, here) He retired to Texas.... He tried soooo hard to listen to the voices ,,,, furtunately he didn't get the Rapture and Armegeddon going though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites