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quickly I accepted the outcome. Barack Obama was to be my next president. Going into the inauguration, I truly had an open mind. I want him to succeed, but I also knew I was not going to get behind the policies I fundamentally disagree with.

In just 6 weeks I have come to realize who the man truly is. I see his plan in action. He is a man with an extremely radical left winged agenda. An agenda that maybe 5% of Americans truly embrace. I'm referring to the totality of his agenda. I honestly believe he plans to ram down the American's throats as much of his radical ideology as possible in as short a time as possible. He has now set us on a very dangerous course and I'm afraid there's no turning back.

I'm beginning to believe what was in my gut during the campaign but didn't want to believe or think was possible. He is truly a dangerous man.

This is only my opinion and time will tell. I honestly hope I am proven wrong.



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> I honestly believe he plans to ram down the American's throats as much of his
>radical ideology as possible in as short a time as possible.

You'll have to argue with all the people on here who are claiming that he's not doing stuff fast enough.

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I think you are absolutely correct, from your point of view. He is on a mission to change America. If he succeeds the US will look a lot more like western European countries than it used to.
Only a fool would expect him to have stronger majorities in after the mid-terms so he is in a hurry. One of the lessons to be learned from the right wing leaders of the 80s and 90s around the world's democracies is that the go slow approach just gives your opponents recovery time and ammunition.

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I honestly believe he plans to ram down the American's throats as much of his
>radical ideology as possible in as short a time as possible.

You'll have to argue with all the people on here who are claiming that he's not doing stuff fast enough.



To be honest Bill, from what I have been reading I get the impression from many on here that he is doing things much too fast.

Bill, as smart as you are, I think you've been duped.



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I didn't even consider voting for him, but I actually started to believe that he would be more centrist. I thought "change" and "bipartisanship" might actually happen.

Well, we're seeing the same old liberal tax-and-spend (and spend and spend). That surely isn't "change." Any hope in bipartisanship went out the window when he strong-armed the stimulus througyh congress with fewer than a handful of republicans.

My muted optiimism is quickly turning to sheer terror.
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I'm also a little disappointed to find that the President has been unable to correct eight years of screwups and general incompetence after being on the job for a month and a half already. Wasn't he billed as a superhero during the campaign?
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I think you are absolutely correct, from your point of view. He is on a mission to change America. If he succeeds the US will look a lot more like western European countries than it used to.
Only a fool would expect him to have stronger majorities in after the mid-terms so he is in a hurry. One of the lessons to be learned from the right wing leaders of the 80s and 90s around the world's democracies is that the go slow approach just gives your opponents recovery time and ammunition.



FINALLY - a thread that is actually hitting at the core of reality!

It's amazing how many people from differing points of view are thinking the same thing.

Communism anyone?
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>I honestly believe he plans to ram down the American's throats as much of his
radical ideology as possible in as short a time as possible.

>>You'll have to argue with all the people on here who are claiming that he's not doing stuff fast enough.

>To be honest Bill, from what I have been reading I get the impression from many on here that he is doing things much too fast.


>>>Only a fool would expect him to have stronger majorities in after the mid-terms so he is in a hurry. One of the lessons to be learned from the right wing leaders of the 80s and 90s around the world's democracies is that the go slow approach just gives your opponents recovery time and ammunition.

>>>>FINALLY - a thread that is actually hitting at the core of reality!

It's amazing how many people from differing points of view are thinking the same thing.

Communism anyone?




so, er...um....what are we talking about?

I think the core of reality here is that this is all just a bunch of horse shit.
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>I honestly believe he plans to ram down the American's throats as much of his
radical ideology as possible in as short a time as possible.

>>You'll have to argue with all the people on here who are claiming that he's not doing stuff fast enough.

>To be honest Bill, from what I have been reading I get the impression from many on here that he is doing things much too fast.


>>>Only a fool would expect him to have stronger majorities in after the mid-terms so he is in a hurry. One of the lessons to be learned from the right wing leaders of the 80s and 90s around the world's democracies is that the go slow approach just gives your opponents recovery time and ammunition.

>>>>FINALLY - a thread that is actually hitting at the core of reality!

It's amazing how many people from differing points of view are thinking the same thing.

Communism anyone?




so, er...um....what are we talking about?

I think the core of reality here is that this is all just a bunch of horse shit.



And you're certainly entitled to your opinion.
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I'm also a little disappointed to find that the President has been unable to correct eight years of screwups and general incompetence after being on the job for a month and a half already. Wasn't he billed as a superhero during the campaign?




The best part here is no matter how badly obama fucks up..... it will still be bush's fault right? You guys have a scapegoat for the next 15 years or so. Its like a freakin blank check!
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Look at the budget proposal that came just following the government enlargement and spending bill...otherwise known as the stimulus bill to dumbfucks who actually believe that load of horse shit.

You're not wrong. Stalin is smiling in his grave...or from the depths of hell. The cocksucker started smiling with TARP and he'll be dancing a jig as the appropriations bills pass through Congress.

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I'm also a little disappointed to find that the President has been unable to correct eight years of screwups and general incompetence after being on the job for a month and a half already. Wasn't he billed as a superhero during the campaign?


The best part here is no matter how badly obama fucks up..... it will still be bush's fault right? You guys have a scapegoat for the next 15 years or so. Its like a freakin blank check!

Clinton got a blowjob.

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Got this off of Boortz yesterday:

"Starting in 2011, over the next 10 years, Obama is proposing almost $1 trillion in tax increases. And you wealth-envy types can rest your pretty little heads .. he is going to increase taxes on those evil rich people you so love to hate. Jake Tapper from ABC News has the breakdown:

1) On households making more than $250,000:

$338 billion from turning back the Bush tax cuts.
$179 billlion by reducing the limits on itemized deductions
$118 billion by increasing capital gains taxes
Total: $636 billion/10 years

2) On evil businesses:

$17 billion comes from bringing back the Superfund taxes
$24 billion fromtreating tax carried-interest as income
$5 billion by codifying "economic substance doctrine"
$61 billion from repeal of the LIFO accounting practice
$210 billion from international enforcement, reform deferral, other tax reform
$4 billion - information reporting for rental payments
$5.3 billion from excise tax increases on Gulf of Mexico oil and gas
$3.4 billion from repealing the expensing of tangible drilling costs
$62 million from repealing the deductions for tertiary injectants
$49 million from repealing passive loss exceptions for working interests in oil and natural gas properties
13 billion by repealing manufacturing tax deductions for oil and natural gas companies
$1 billion by increasing to 7 years geological and geophysical amortization period for independent producers
$882 million through eliminating advanced earned income tax credit
Total: $353 billion/10 years

There are people who actually believe that Obama is going to succeed in his quest to return economic prosperity to our country through taxation. There are also people who believe that wet streets cause rain. These people are commonly called "idiots."
"

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I like it!!!
But I thought "Anvil's law" was: bulimia=thoughtful political commentary.

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Good luck w/ the Limbaugh/Palin ticket for 2012.

Btw, what's wrong w/ being left/socialist? And carrying about your fellow beings? I for one, am delighted about the path that Obama is taking and which I voted for. If anything, it's not "radical" enough.

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quickly I accepted the outcome. Barack Obama was to be my next president. Going into the inauguration, I truly had an open mind. I want him to succeed, but I also knew I was not going to get behind the policies I fundamentally disagree with.

In just 6 weeks I have come to realize who the man truly is. I see his plan in action. He is a man with an extremely radical left winged agenda. An agenda that maybe 5% of Americans truly embrace. I'm referring to the totality of his agenda. I honestly believe he plans to ram down the American's throats as much of his radical ideology as possible in as short a time as possible. He has now set us on a very dangerous course and I'm afraid there's no turning back.

I'm beginning to believe what was in my gut during the campaign but didn't want to believe or think was possible. He is truly a dangerous man.

This is only my opinion and time will tell. I honestly hope I am proven wrong.

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It's fine that you are a socialist. You have the freedom to be one. You are a member of a very small club in the United States.

My disappointment in the president is that he also is a member of this very small club and plans to use his presidency to change everything this country was founded upon and for the most part maintained for 235 years. His ideology first, the citizens of this country and the foundation of this country last.

He is not a stupid man. He is doing catastrophically stupid things deliberately.



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It's fine that you are a socialist. You have the freedom to be one. You are a member of a very small club in the United States.

My disappointment in the president is that he also is a member of this very small club and plans to use his presidency to change everything this country was founded upon and for the most part maintained for 235 years. His ideology first, the citizens of this country and the foundation of this country last.

He is not a stupid man. He is doing catastrophically stupid things deliberately.




Gee and here I thought you lived in the USA... where everyone seems to want their government to do something for them.

Isn't that the quintessential definition of socialism??

Personally I would prefer JFK's vision...... doing something for their country rather than expecting to get something for nothing.

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It's fine that you are a socialist. You have the freedom to be one. You are a member of a very small club in the United States.

My disappointment in the president is that he also is a member of this very small club and plans to use his presidency to change everything this country was founded upon and for the most part maintained for 235 years. His ideology first, the citizens of this country and the foundation of this country last.

He is not a stupid man. He is doing catastrophically stupid things deliberately.

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Gee and here I thought you lived in the USA... where everyone seems to want their government to do something for them.

Isn't that the quintessential definition of socialism??

Personally I would prefer JFK's vision...... doing something for their country rather than expecting to get something for nothing.



I too believe in JFK's philosophy of 'Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country'.

This philosophy should apply to the president also which is my point in regard to President Obama.

The USA has always had some form of socialism but predominantly capitalism.

Our president is a radical socialist.



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Trust me... I have travelled to some socialist countires and even spent some time in some of them.... and contrary to what you believe...it ain't gonna happen here... no matter how much those who are all butt hurt over losing the White House to someone with more than half a brain for the next 8 years.. MAN are you guys gonna love this ride.

I really do wish more of my countrymen would get out in the world... OH YES.. and not expect those other countries to look, smell, feel, taste and act like this one when they do:S:S:S:S

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It's fine that you are a socialist. You have the freedom to be one. You are a member of a very small club in the United States.

My disappointment in the president is that he also is a member of this very small club and plans to use his presidency to change everything this country was founded upon and for the most part maintained for 235 years. His ideology first, the citizens of this country and the foundation of this country last.

He is not a stupid man. He is doing catastrophically stupid things deliberately.




Gee and here I thought you lived in the USA... where everyone seems to want their government to do something for them.

Isn't that the quintessential definition of socialism??

Personally I would prefer JFK's vision...... doing something for their country rather than expecting to get something for nothing.



Doing something for your country could involve paying the taxes necessary to get it out of debt.

Unfortunately the last 8 years have shown that Republicans are unwilling even to go that far.
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Doing something for your country could involve paying the taxes necessary to get it out of debt.



Or perhaps the unthinkable...spending less!

I don't think it's a Dem/Rep thing. We've been spending like drunken sailors on leave for too long. I think we pay enough taxes already. Consider this:

The tax rate here is approaching 50%. When you get your paycheck it's already been taxed 28-33%.

In Ohio we have a sales tax that runs from 5 to 7%. In reality, since you're paying sales tax with money that's already been taxed that 5 - 7% is more like 7 - 10%. We have gas taxes...property taxes...excise taxes and more government "fees" than can be listed. ANd some people think we need to pay more. :S
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