ryoder 1,590 #1 February 18, 2009 Oh, man! Who do I root for? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/17/pat-robertson-denounces-r_n_167569.html"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #2 February 18, 2009 Quote Oh, man! Who do I root for? Neither. Root for US.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #3 February 18, 2009 The right wing is really tearing themselves to pieces. Their approval ratings are in the toilet and the only leadership they've been able to show lately is how good a tantrum they can throw. I figure it will be a few years before they can escape the consequences of their actions over the past few years and reinvent themselves again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #4 February 18, 2009 Quote The right wing is really tearing themselves to pieces. Their approval ratings are in the toilet and the only leadership they've been able to show lately is how good a tantrum they can throw. I figure it will be a few years before they can escape the consequences of their actions over the past few years and reinvent themselves again. Or, in other words: The GOP has jumped the shark."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #5 February 18, 2009 Quote Or, in other words: The GOP has jumped the shark. Only in the "Happy Days" / Fonzi sense. Certainly not in the Perris sense. quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #6 February 18, 2009 Quote Oh, man! Who do I root for?http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/17/pat-robertson-denounces-r_n_167569.html +2, as Rush clearly stated, If the Presidents policies are leading the US toward Socialism he hopes he fails i.e. his policies. Can't find why that is so hard to understand. Now the issue to me is do you support Socialist ideas? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #7 February 18, 2009 > Rush clearly stated, If the Presidents policies are leading the US toward > Socialism he hopes he fails i.e. his policies. I guess for the next few years we are going to have a lot of republicans praying as hard as they can (and working as hard as they can) for an even bigger failure of the economy. Let's just say I hope you do not get your wish. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #8 February 18, 2009 QuoteNow the issue to me is do you support Socialist ideas? Which ones? See the issue to me is that a lot of people actually LOVE the socialist ideas that benefit them, just not the ones they don't benefit from. About a year ago I was in an office with a bunch of rich guys. I mean insanely wealthy, never really have to work another day in their life guys. Staunch "behind the Orange Curtain" Republicans, anti-union, anti-welfare, keep your hands out of my pocket guys. It was a retirement party for one that was joking about how he's looking forward to getting SS because that will just cover his country club membership. I'm NOT kidding. This actually happened. I had to leave the room. I wanted to punch the guy.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #9 February 18, 2009 Quote> Rush clearly stated, If the Presidents policies are leading the US toward > Socialism he hopes he fails i.e. his policies. I guess for the next few years we are going to have a lot of republicans praying as hard as they can (and working as hard as they can) for an even bigger failure of the economy. Let's just say I hope you do not get your wish. Damn, I did'nt think I made any suggestion that I was praying for OUR economy to tank. I like you have my 401k / investments to think of, my 3 girls furture. I have hopes and dreams, but my hopes and dreams have nothing to do with supporting socialist policies that I believe will be harmful to my future and to my country as well. I would like to see Obama be successful as the President, but I disagree with the direction he appears to be taking the country. I disagree with Whole Life Insurance because its a high cost low benefit product. It provides a death benefit for the insured beneficiary but at a high cost to the family. Term Life provides 5 - 6 times more coverage for the beneficiary at 1/3 the cost to the family. Simply put, the Presidents stimulus package as currently passed is so costly that the American people like me and you and our children can hardly afford and provides little benefit. It was a plan so urgently needed that the President nor any of our elected officials read, nor as promissed posted on the WEB for all to see. Question: Has the stimulus package been post? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #10 February 18, 2009 QuoteQuestion: Has the stimulus package been post? If you wanna keep track, go here; http://www.recovery.gov/quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TankBuster 0 #11 February 18, 2009 QuoteI had to leave the room. I wanted to punch the guy. Why? He paid into the ponzi scheme too. He deserves his money as much as anyone else. I guarantee you he'd rather have been able to invest the money himself. Then he'd have a nice boat, a jet, AND a cc membership.The forecast is mostly sunny with occasional beer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #12 February 18, 2009 QuoteQuoteI had to leave the room. I wanted to punch the guy. Why? He paid into the ponzi scheme too. He deserves his money as much as anyone else. I guarantee you he'd rather have been able to invest the money himself. Then he'd have a nice boat, a jet, AND a cc membership. Or... he could have a bunch of worthless stock certificates after the money was invested by a right wing lugnut who drove the economy into the toilet.. while he and his friends did very well with their nice little war, and the raid on the treasury. We at least dodged that bend over and enjoy it moment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #13 February 19, 2009 Quote Quote Oh, man! Who do I root for?http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/17/pat-robertson-denounces-r_n_167569.html +2, as Rush clearly stated, If the Presidents policies are leading the US toward Socialism he hopes he fails i.e. his policies. Can't find why that is so hard to understand. Now the issue to me is do you support Socialist ideas? You guys are using "socialism" as a catch-all concept that must always demonized, like heresy to a churchman. Look, virtually any process which involves collective action by or collective benefit to society can be viewed as "socialistic", for example, an organized military to provide for the common defense. Or filling-in the potholes on roads. You don't live off the land in an isolated cabin in Wyoming, do you? No, you live in a society. That means you participate in and derive benefit from a collective; and at its core, that's a form of socialism. The only real debate is over the scope and breadth. There's no magic ideological "threshold"; it's really just a matter of whose ox is getting gored. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #14 February 19, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Oh, man! Who do I root for?http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/17/pat-robertson-denounces-r_n_167569.html +2, as Rush clearly stated, If the Presidents policies are leading the US toward Socialism he hopes he fails i.e. his policies. Can't find why that is so hard to understand. Now the issue to me is do you support Socialist ideas? You guys are using "socialism" as a catch-all concept that must always demonized, like heresy to a churchman. Look, virtually any process which involves collective action by or collective benefit to society can be viewed as "socialistic", for example, an organized military to provide for the common defense. Or filling-in the potholes on roads. You don't live off the land in an isolated cabin in Wyoming, do you? No, you live in a society. That means you participate in and derive benefit from a collective; and at its core, that's a form of socialism. The only real debate is over the scope and breadth. There's no magic ideological "threshold"; it's really just a matter of whose ox is getting gored. +1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #15 February 19, 2009 QuoteI disagree with Whole Life Insurance because its a high cost low benefit product. It provides a death benefit for the insured beneficiary but at a high cost to the family. Term Life provides 5 - 6 times more coverage for the beneficiary at 1/3 the cost to the family. Pssst … whole life insurance is a form of term life insurance. Insurance in general is a losing proposition for policy holders, providing a positive expected value only for the insurance companies. While different kinds of life insurance are suited for different needs of different customers, none are really inherently better or worse than others.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TankBuster 0 #16 February 19, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteI had to leave the room. I wanted to punch the guy. Why? He paid into the ponzi scheme too. He deserves his money as much as anyone else. I guarantee you he'd rather have been able to invest the money himself. Then he'd have a nice boat, a jet, AND a cc membership. Or... he could have a bunch of worthless stock certificates after the money was invested by a right wing lugnut who drove the economy into the toilet.. while he and his friends did very well with their nice little war, and the raid on the treasury. We at least dodged that bend over and enjoy it moment. Or, he could have invested it in his own business, or his kids education, or any number of "right wing" causes that HE decided to invest in. Freedom, personal responsibility. Your dubya rants are getting pretty hilarious. Take a xanax.The forecast is mostly sunny with occasional beer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #17 February 19, 2009 Now we can enjoy the day when the left lifted Pat to hero status "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #18 February 19, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuestion: Has the stimulus package been post? If you wanna keep track, go here; http://www.recovery.gov/ So, you have vetted this dot gov website and you can insure us all that it will be acurate and honest? After all, sourcing has been a big point of debate on this site for a long time."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #19 February 19, 2009 QuoteOr, he could have invested it in his own business, or his kids education, or any number of "right wing" causes that HE decided to invest in. Freedom, personal responsibility. Your dubya rants are getting pretty hilarious. Take a xanax. Uh thats not the way that the Chimpanzee in Charge had in mind for Social Security... Its ok.. your homie Obama or messiah rants are tired.... Now run down and get some Viagra Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
likearock 2 #20 February 19, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Oh, man! Who do I root for?http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/17/pat-robertson-denounces-r_n_167569.html +2, as Rush clearly stated, If the Presidents policies are leading the US toward Socialism he hopes he fails i.e. his policies. Can't find why that is so hard to understand. Now the issue to me is do you support Socialist ideas? You guys are using "socialism" as a catch-all concept that must always demonized, like heresy to a churchman. Don't worry, the right wing fringe led by RL will soon be isolated. Even people like Lindsey Graham are coming around. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #21 February 19, 2009 Quote So, you have vetted this dot gov website and you can insure us all that it will be acurate and honest? After all, sourcing has been a big point of debate on this site for a long time. At least we've been given a site that can be vetted. That's a "change" for the better. And I'm sure that although I think it's a great idea that it will surely come back to bite Obama in the ass. Previously people had nothing to complain about except that their dollars were disappearing with very little accounting of where that money went. Now people will have a site they can find specifics and say "look where they're wasting our money". More information = more criticism. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #22 February 19, 2009 > While different kinds of life insurance are suited for different needs of different customers, none are really inherently better or worse than others. Couldn't disagree with you more. Variable Life / Variable Universal Life are some of the most dangerous policy a family could own. But were off topic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #23 February 19, 2009 Quote +2, as Rush clearly stated, If the Presidents policies are leading the US toward Socialism he hopes he fails i.e. his policies. Can't find why that is so hard to understand. Now the issue to me is do you support Socialist ideas? Actually stated he he wants everything Obama does to fail. And he stated very clearly about one minute in that he wants the stimulus package to fail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piper17 1 #24 February 19, 2009 "Chimpanzee in charge"???? Of whom are you speaking?"A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #25 February 19, 2009 QuoteQuote So, you have vetted this dot gov website and you can insure us all that it will be acurate and honest? After all, sourcing has been a big point of debate on this site for a long time. At least we've been given a site that can be vetted. That's a "change" for the better. And I'm sure that although I think it's a great idea that it will surely come back to bite Obama in the ass. Previously people had nothing to complain about except that their dollars were disappearing with very little accounting of where that money went. Now people will have a site they can find specifics and say "look where they're wasting our money". More information = more criticism. Any monies controlled (over the mins outlined by the Constitution) by this government are just going down a big corrupt hole. And it matters not which party is controlling the spending. I cant beleive you really think this will have any chance at being honest at all. But you can believe it if you want to........."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
