rushmc 23 #26 February 17, 2009 ...and what percentage (to you) is reasonable?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #27 February 17, 2009 >...and what percentage (to you) is reasonable? ?? Whatever they can make legally is "reasonable." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #28 February 17, 2009 It is very tireing to here these people slam companies for making money. They get these media driven sound bites that drive class envy and make everybody all angry at the money made. But they forget to put into context the actual percent return on investment. So, if a company makes a capital investment of say 1 billon dollars and makes 11 billion, are they more or less evil than a company that invests 100 billion and makes 1000 billion? Hmmmm......"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #29 February 17, 2009 Quote>...and what percentage (to you) is reasonable? ?? Whatever they can make legally is "reasonable." Nice dodge. See the trap coming? What would be legaly resonable to you? You know, if you were king and got to decide."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #30 February 17, 2009 >Nice dodge. What are you talking about? How much do you think is "reasonable" to make? >What would be legaly resonable to you? You know, if you were king and >got to decide. As much as they could legally make. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #31 February 17, 2009 Quote>...and what percentage (to you) is reasonable? ?? Whatever they can make legally is "reasonable." And what was the percent return on investment that these evil oil corps made on their investment? It is public record you know."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #32 February 17, 2009 Quote>Nice dodge. What are you talking about? How much do you think is "reasonable" to make? >What would be legaly resonable to you? You know, if you were king and >got to decide. As much as they could legally make. And what might that be? But that is not the question I asked now is it......"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #33 February 17, 2009 >And what was the percent return on investment that these evil oil >corps made on their investment? Uh, 37% ROI TTM. I already answered that for you. Are you neglecting to read the reply before hitting "POST?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #34 February 17, 2009 >And what might that be? There is no limit as to what I would consider reasonable. Now, what limit would be reasonable to you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #35 February 17, 2009 Quote>And what was the percent return on investment that these evil oil >corps made on their investment? Uh, 37% ROI TTM. I already answered that for you. Are you neglecting to read the reply before hitting "POST?" Yes and TTM is not what I am talking about. ROI sir. The company ROI not what they are paying in stock dividends. I consider 10 to 12% resonable. You? And what was Exxons ROI in the last 2 years vs the say the last 6 years? Or even the last 10 or 15 years...."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #36 February 17, 2009 Quote>And what might that be? There is no limit as to what I would consider reasonable. Now, what limit would be reasonable to you? If this is true then why do seem to support those whos pants are in a wad about profits?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #37 February 17, 2009 Well?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #38 February 17, 2009 >ROI sir. The company ROI . . . The company return on investment is 37% from the period 12/07 to 12/08. Here's a link if you don't believe me: http://www.marketwatch.com/tools/quotes/profile.asp?symb=xom Now that I have answered your question three separate times, here's one for you. What do you think an appropriate profit for Exxon would be? >If this is true then why do seem to support those whos pants are in a >wad about profits? Who are you claiming "seems to support those whose pants are in a wad?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #39 February 17, 2009 Quote>ROI sir. The company ROI . . . The company return on investment is 37% from the period 12/07 to 12/08. Here's a link if you don't believe me: http://www.marketwatch.com/tools/quotes/profile.asp?symb=xom Now that I have answered your question three separate times, here's one for you. What do you think an appropriate profit for Exxon would be? >If this is true then why do seem to support those whos pants are in a >wad about profits? Who are you claiming "seems to support those whose pants are in a wad?" You really going to hang your point on the TTM?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #40 February 17, 2009 Try this instead http://www.reuters.com/finance/stocks/ratios?symbol=XOM.N&rpc=66"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #41 February 17, 2009 You see billvon, whole I am not an expert on stocks I am very versed in picking numbers that support a case cause I spend a lot of time trying to pull truth from numbers. So, the last link I posted shows a much better story than what you posted. Record profits as posted is greatly misleading when looked at in the context of what the company invests vs returns or ROI. TTM is very misleading in this case"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #42 February 17, 2009 >You really going to hang your point on the TTM? Try this instead . . . You just provided a link to a page that shows ROI TTM. I don't think you even read the link before you posted it. Now, I'll ask you a second time. What do you think an appropriate profit for Exxon would be? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #43 February 17, 2009 > I am very versed in picking numbers that support a case . . . Truer words were never spoken. At least you admit it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #44 February 17, 2009 Quote > I am very versed in picking numbers that support a case . . . Truer words were never spoken. At least you admit it. Yep, and I pointed out how you were doing it didnt I. All anybody need do is look at the links. And your insinuation is a bull shit stunt. I hope all here can see what you have done by pulling it"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #45 February 17, 2009 Remember SixSigma? Yep dude, you fucking stepped in it....."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #46 February 17, 2009 >All anybody need do is look at the links. First you said that return-on-investment based on TTM wasn't valid. Then you posted a link that showed industry ROI based on TTM. Yep, all anyone needs to do is look at the links to realize that you didn't even read it before posting it. >And your insinuation is a bull shit stunt. I didn't insinuate anything. You came right out and admitted it. You still have a few hours to edit your post, if you like. And for the third time, what profit do you think Exxon should make? Or can you not answer that question without falling into your own trap? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #47 February 17, 2009 Quote>You really going to hang your point on the TTM? Try this instead . . . You just provided a link to a page that shows ROI TTM. I don't think you even read the link before you posted it. Now, I'll ask you a second time. What do you think an appropriate profit for Exxon would be? I answered your misleading question in a truer fashion than you asked it. 10 to 12% ROI"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #48 February 17, 2009 Quote>All anybody need do is look at the links. First you said that return-on-investment based on TTM wasn't valid. Then you posted a link that showed industry ROI based on TTM. Yep, all anyone needs to do is look at the links to realize that you didn't even read it before posting it. >And your insinuation is a bull shit stunt. I didn't insinuate anything. You came right out and admitted it. You still have a few hours to edit your post, if you like. And for the third time, what profit do you think Exxon should make? Or can you not answer that question without falling into your own trap? Read the above post. I dont have to edit anything but maybe you should"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #49 February 17, 2009 You want it in dollars? Do the damned math....... And not for 1 year as that is misleading"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #50 February 17, 2009 All we all need to remember is, Profit bad Government mandated price controls good. At least those that support billvons wind generator that is. Market forces be fucked.........."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
