rhys 0 #1 February 10, 2009 In victoria, heatwaves hotter then ever recorded (records bagan in 1850) have been taking place, bushfires are destroying entire towns and settlements, over 150 confirmed dead and many more to come. Meanwhile up in Queensland, tropical storms flood areas effecting 66% of the state (around the size of texas) with more to come. And some still refuse to believe climate change is happening. Bushfires and floods are always a threat in Australia (the land of drought and flood) but this is off the hook. People are dying left right and centre."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #2 February 10, 2009 >And some still refuse to believe climate change is happening. While there is a lot of evidence that climate change is happening, one season of fires or floods in one location is not really indicative of such changes. It's what happens over the course of years worldwide that's the criterion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #3 February 10, 2009 Quoteone season of fires or floods in one location is not really indicative of such changes. It's what happens over the course of years worldwide that's the criterion. 46 degrees celcius at 40 degrees south latitude, the hottest temperature in the regon since records began over 150 years ago..... what wre you saying again?"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gene03 0 #4 February 10, 2009 My heart goes out to those folks. Not going to go to the AGW thing. I do agree with your sigline.“The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him. Stanislaw Jerzy Lec quotes (Polish writer, poet and satirist 1906-1966) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #5 February 10, 2009 >46 degrees celcius at 40 degrees south latitude, the hottest temperature >in the regon since records began over 150 years ago..... And record cold temperatures here in the US this winter. Again, neither means much on the larger scales. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #6 February 10, 2009 Quote >46 degrees celcius at 40 degrees south latitude, the hottest temperature >in the regon since records began over 150 years ago..... And record cold temperatures here in the US this winter. Again, neither means much on the larger scales. It isn't one off local seasonal extremes that's his point here. It's the unseasonal international extremes that's significant; because it is; because it isn't a one off unseasonal international extreme either.In fact, make that a 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #7 February 10, 2009 QuoteIn victoria, heatwaves hotter then ever recorded (records bagan in 1850) have been taking place, bushfires are destroying entire towns and settlements, over 150 confirmed dead and many more to come. Meanwhile up in Queensland, tropical storms flood areas effecting 66% of the state (around the size of texas) with more to come. Even without climate change, settlements have lead to both increases in large fires - because we keep putting them out and denying nature its cleanup mechanism, and in big floods, because we tend to strip out the ground cover that mitigates floods. And the El Nino/La Nina cycle (which we seem to be in again) definitely has dramatic affects on both Australia and California, and has for centuries. Insisting single data points is conclusive proof is exactly the sort of thing your opposition jumps on to point out how much BS there is on the GW side, thus tarnishing all climate science. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallingOsh 0 #8 February 10, 2009 Aren't the fires being attributed to arson? -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #9 February 10, 2009 Quote Aren't the fires being attributed to arson? one of them yes, and unfortunately that is the one that has killed the most people. one was triggered by a lightning strike... an super hopt temperatures forcasted in the next few days. I'm glad i am up here in the tropics where it is cooler not in the temperate zone that is a raging inferno!!The smoke form the victoria fires has been seen in the south island of New Zealand! more than 200 dead now "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #10 February 10, 2009 Its hot in the middle of Australia's summer??? No shit! Say it aint so When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 426 #11 February 10, 2009 Quote And some still refuse to believe climate change is happening. Hot in the summer, cold in the winter. Yep, that's climate change. Time for my fire resistant parka! Wonder if Al Gore burned up yet.Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yarpos 4 #12 February 10, 2009 forget it Rhys they clearly have no clue .......regards, Steve the older I get...the better I was Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,589 #13 February 10, 2009 A friend who lives there doesn't have air conditioning in his house because the weather is usually too moderate to require it. 46 C is so far out of the norm for him it's astounding. No, one summer isn't proof of global warming, but neither is it something to laugh about. Imagine if, say, San Francisco were to have a summer where it was like Phoenix. This is really bad. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 897 #14 February 10, 2009 One case of arson. One case of lightning strike. Weird sort of global warming you folks get there. We're getting record snows and low temps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #15 February 10, 2009 Quoteforget it Rhys they clearly have no clue ....... ClickyMike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #16 February 10, 2009 I think it's the wrath of God punishing us for our sins. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #17 February 10, 2009 Meanwhile in Ireland and the UK we've had the heavest snow fall since 1982! Its bloody feezing here -6 degrees the other day. So much for it warming up.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #18 February 11, 2009 Quotemore than 200 dead now I must have heard a bogus radio report, the official death toll is 181 but it is said to be expected to reach over 300."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #19 February 11, 2009 Quote forget it Rhys they clearly have no clue ....... but they sure think they do huh"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SStewart 13 #20 February 11, 2009 It looks like those fires are real close to the DZ in Nagambie. Has any of our mates down there been affected? I was a firefighter for the US forest service for 20 years and in 2005 I went down there with my wife on an employee exchange program. I am retired now but my wife is being considered to go back down there and help out, we should know in the next few days. As I remember the DZ is right in the same area. Onward and Upward! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #21 February 11, 2009 QuoteIt looks like those fires are real close to the DZ in Nagambie. i hadn't thought of that yet, the horror af all those lives, homes and farms now destroyed was enough to think about. Still quite a few fires burning too. The largest fire fighting helecopter in the southern hemisphere is on its way over from New Zealand as well as the Aus army, and the NZ army. With a bit of luck they'll get back on top of it before the next heat wave/north wester that has been predictied comes through."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
