434 2 #1 February 6, 2009 Meet the ancestors: Earliest evidence of life suggests humans descended from sponges 635million years ago. Chemical traces left behind in 635 million-year-old rocks are the earliest evidence ever found of animal life on Earth, researchers said today. An analysis of molecules in the ancient stones from Oman revealed a form of cholesterol only produced by sponges. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1136104/Meet-ancestors-Earliest-evidence-life-shows-humans-descended-sponges-635million-years-ago.html http://www.darwin200.org/what-is.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BaronVonBoll 0 #2 February 6, 2009 OK Ill bite. Darwinism if true survival of the fitest Evolution etc is usuallly defined and grabbed and exalted by the same people who give massive support for welfare and helpping the needy. (weakest not the fittest) on the other hand many Creationist take the point of individualism and let it be attitude many not all in both cases but still confusing to me! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
434 2 #3 February 6, 2009 Half of Britons do not believe in evolution, survey finds More than one-fifth prefer creationism or intelligent design, while many others are confused about Darwin's theory One out of Norwigians do not believe in evolution, and only 59 % believe! http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2009/feb/01/evolution-darwin-survey-creationism Attached graf is from 2006 source http://www.newscientist.com/data/images/archive/2565/25653701.jpg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #4 February 6, 2009 >on the other hand many Creationist take the point of individualism and >let it be attitude . . . Oh, I find the most rabid creationists are the ones that want it taught in schools at any cost, want gay marriage outlawed, want religion to be a part of government and want pornography and profane language suppressed. They're the Church Ladies of the world. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #5 February 6, 2009 Quote many not all in both cases but still confusing to me! When you realise that the two things have sweet fuck all to do with each other, your confusion will be eased. The recognition of facts, such as evolution, about how the world works has absolutely nothing to do with morality, or how we should organise our societies. Just because we recognise that evolution occurs does not mean we should feel obligated to sacrifice the weaker members of our society. Why on earth should it?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #6 February 6, 2009 I'll stand back and watch this round, but alert people interested that there was a very cool piece NG had on him, the voyage, and how the pieces came together - with more specific mentions of the people that helped him than I've ever read about before. If you do not subscribe, that piece alone is worth picking up a copy - especially if you can just lift it from the docs or dentists office. Maybe leave a quarter on the counter." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #7 February 6, 2009 QuoteOK Ill bite. Darwinism if true survival of the fitest Evolution etc is usuallly defined and grabbed and exalted by the same people who give massive support for welfare and helpping the needy. (weakest not the fittest) on the other hand many Creationist take the point of individualism and let it be attitude Perhaps the strongest communities are those that care for their weaker members. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryzflies 0 #8 February 6, 2009 Scientific American January 2009 issue devoted to evolution. Among other things, it rips apart the falsehoods about evolution propagated by the Creationists and IDers.If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #9 February 7, 2009 I would have celebrated. But then I thought, "You know. I think we've moved past that." My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #10 February 7, 2009 Quote Quote OK Ill bite. Darwinism if true survival of the fitest Evolution etc is usuallly defined and grabbed and exalted by the same people who give massive support for welfare and helpping the needy. (weakest not the fittest) on the other hand many Creationist take the point of individualism and let it be attitude Perhaps the strongest communities are those that care for their weaker members. Blues, Dave And I just got through watching the Sparatans throwing the weak and puny off a cliff...."There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
434 2 #11 February 7, 2009 Some have moved past! Still someone who are afraid to step wrong, and open their minds! Evolution is proved! But there could have been someone who created the "The earth/space project" A loving god? I doubt! A scientist? Maybe............. Could we just be a game? Where we are totally in hands of a player, or players? Risk... Sims... Matrix? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7870562.stm Intelligent civilisations are out there and there could be thousands of them, according to an Edinburgh scientist. The discovery of more than 330 planets outside our solar system in recent years has helped refine the number of life forms that are likely to exist. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #12 February 7, 2009 QuoteOK Ill bite. ***Darwinism if true survival of the fitest Evolution etc is usuallly defined and grabbed and exalted by the same people who give massive support for welfare and helpping the needy. (weakest not the fittest) on the other hand many Creationist take the point of individualism and let it be attitude*** Evolution is espoused by the more educated and open minded, there is little question about that. Every scientific discovery disputed by religion has been later proven to be true. I wont even mention the irony of a Christian saying the needy should not be helped. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jerryzflies 0 #13 February 7, 2009 QuoteQuoteOK Ill bite. ***Darwinism if true survival of the fitest Evolution etc is usuallly defined and grabbed and exalted by the same people who give massive support for welfare and helpping the needy. (weakest not the fittest) on the other hand many Creationist take the point of individualism and let it be attitude*** Evolution is espoused by the more educated and open minded, there is little question about that. Every scientific discovery disputed by religion has been later proven to be true. I wont even mention the irony of a Christian saying the needy should not be helped. Christian does not necessarily mean Creationist. news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/oxfordshire/7876680.stm Many Christians are intelligent and well educated.If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #14 February 7, 2009 QuoteI would have celebrated. But then I thought, "You know. I think we've moved past that." Really. Like "celebrating" the non-flatness of the world, or the fact that the Earth orbits its sun. Oo-rah Copernicus! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pinkfairy 0 #15 February 8, 2009 Yay, I hope there will be some new and exciting books on evolution coming out this year. Why is this thread in the Speaker's corner, then? If it were to get all the creationists out to argue it would surely be named something else. Like: "Creationism is nonsense" or something like that.Relax, you can die if you mess up, but it will probably not be by bullet. I'm a BIG, TOUGH BIGWAY FORMATION SKYDIVER! What are you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pinkfairy 0 #16 February 8, 2009 Quote Really. Like "celebrating" the non-flatness of the world, or the fact that the Earth orbits its sun. Oo-rah Copernicus! Hey! I think those are good reasons to celebrate any day! Pass the cake! Relax, you can die if you mess up, but it will probably not be by bullet. I'm a BIG, TOUGH BIGWAY FORMATION SKYDIVER! What are you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,596 #17 February 8, 2009 Quote I would have celebrated. But then I thought, "You know. I think we've moved past that." Moved past celebrating great achievements every now and then? I think that's a bit sad.With the current level of public engagement in science I think we could do with celebrating more great scientists, not less. If a Darwin anniversary TV show or newspaper/magazine article encourages a kid or two to take a science degree then I'd say it's more than worthwhile.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tbrown 26 #18 February 8, 2009 What the fuck, What the fuck, Way to go Chuck ! Little Chucky Darwin, Born the exact same day as Lincoln, Stirring up the kettle of our pre-conceived ideas Made a monkey of the churches, and their Garden of Eden, but only in America do we still resist his logic And now that he's two hundred, Just look at how we've blundered, Our textbooks Joe-the Plumbered By "Intelligent Design" Not all of his ideas Worked out in the details Some things he could not foresee, But his concept was right on So hey Chuckie D, Thanks for setting our minds free, From enslavement to mythology, You've made sense of biology, And for that we owe you BEER ! Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lawrocket 3 #19 February 9, 2009 I take it that my satire was a little tooooo subtle. Perhpas I should have written, "I think we've evolved past that." But that just kinda gives it all away... My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites FallingOsh 0 #20 February 9, 2009 QuoteI take it that my satire was a little tooooo subtle. Perhpas I should have written, "I think we've evolved past that." But that just kinda gives it all away... They were too busy calling everyone else stupid to understand your play on words. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #21 February 9, 2009 Unsurprisingly, Shrewsbury is celebrating all things Darwin, throughout the year . clicky (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,120 #22 February 9, 2009 So the question remains - how does one celebrate the life of Darwin? A 'vertical dinner' with food from yogurt to monkey brains? A visit to a local brewery where the evolution of Brettanomyces and Saccharomyces can be considered while drinking smelly beer? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lawrocket 3 #23 February 9, 2009 Lots of ways, bill. You can go to the Galapogos Islands (maybe I spelled it wrong) and pray; You can do a mock-trial re-enactment of Scopes; You can sue Ben Stein and try to win his money; There are lots of things. As for me, I work and take care of my family. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SimonBones 1 #24 February 9, 2009 It took the church almost 400 years (1992) to officially recognize that Galileo was right and forgive him. Darwin has a long way still to go. 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jerryzflies 0 #13 February 7, 2009 QuoteQuoteOK Ill bite. ***Darwinism if true survival of the fitest Evolution etc is usuallly defined and grabbed and exalted by the same people who give massive support for welfare and helpping the needy. (weakest not the fittest) on the other hand many Creationist take the point of individualism and let it be attitude*** Evolution is espoused by the more educated and open minded, there is little question about that. Every scientific discovery disputed by religion has been later proven to be true. I wont even mention the irony of a Christian saying the needy should not be helped. Christian does not necessarily mean Creationist. news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/oxfordshire/7876680.stm Many Christians are intelligent and well educated.If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #14 February 7, 2009 QuoteI would have celebrated. But then I thought, "You know. I think we've moved past that." Really. Like "celebrating" the non-flatness of the world, or the fact that the Earth orbits its sun. Oo-rah Copernicus! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pinkfairy 0 #15 February 8, 2009 Yay, I hope there will be some new and exciting books on evolution coming out this year. Why is this thread in the Speaker's corner, then? If it were to get all the creationists out to argue it would surely be named something else. Like: "Creationism is nonsense" or something like that.Relax, you can die if you mess up, but it will probably not be by bullet. I'm a BIG, TOUGH BIGWAY FORMATION SKYDIVER! What are you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pinkfairy 0 #16 February 8, 2009 Quote Really. Like "celebrating" the non-flatness of the world, or the fact that the Earth orbits its sun. Oo-rah Copernicus! Hey! I think those are good reasons to celebrate any day! Pass the cake! Relax, you can die if you mess up, but it will probably not be by bullet. I'm a BIG, TOUGH BIGWAY FORMATION SKYDIVER! What are you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,596 #17 February 8, 2009 Quote I would have celebrated. But then I thought, "You know. I think we've moved past that." Moved past celebrating great achievements every now and then? I think that's a bit sad.With the current level of public engagement in science I think we could do with celebrating more great scientists, not less. If a Darwin anniversary TV show or newspaper/magazine article encourages a kid or two to take a science degree then I'd say it's more than worthwhile.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tbrown 26 #18 February 8, 2009 What the fuck, What the fuck, Way to go Chuck ! Little Chucky Darwin, Born the exact same day as Lincoln, Stirring up the kettle of our pre-conceived ideas Made a monkey of the churches, and their Garden of Eden, but only in America do we still resist his logic And now that he's two hundred, Just look at how we've blundered, Our textbooks Joe-the Plumbered By "Intelligent Design" Not all of his ideas Worked out in the details Some things he could not foresee, But his concept was right on So hey Chuckie D, Thanks for setting our minds free, From enslavement to mythology, You've made sense of biology, And for that we owe you BEER ! Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lawrocket 3 #19 February 9, 2009 I take it that my satire was a little tooooo subtle. Perhpas I should have written, "I think we've evolved past that." But that just kinda gives it all away... My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites FallingOsh 0 #20 February 9, 2009 QuoteI take it that my satire was a little tooooo subtle. Perhpas I should have written, "I think we've evolved past that." But that just kinda gives it all away... They were too busy calling everyone else stupid to understand your play on words. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #21 February 9, 2009 Unsurprisingly, Shrewsbury is celebrating all things Darwin, throughout the year . clicky (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,120 #22 February 9, 2009 So the question remains - how does one celebrate the life of Darwin? A 'vertical dinner' with food from yogurt to monkey brains? A visit to a local brewery where the evolution of Brettanomyces and Saccharomyces can be considered while drinking smelly beer? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lawrocket 3 #23 February 9, 2009 Lots of ways, bill. You can go to the Galapogos Islands (maybe I spelled it wrong) and pray; You can do a mock-trial re-enactment of Scopes; You can sue Ben Stein and try to win his money; There are lots of things. As for me, I work and take care of my family. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SimonBones 1 #24 February 9, 2009 It took the church almost 400 years (1992) to officially recognize that Galileo was right and forgive him. Darwin has a long way still to go. Repost this in 200 years. 108 way head down world record!!! http://www.simonbones.com Hit me up on Facebook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andrewwhyte 1 #25 February 9, 2009 QuoteSo the question remains - how does one celebrate the life of Darwin? A 'vertical dinner' with food from yogurt to monkey brains? A visit to a local brewery where the evolution of Brettanomyces and Saccharomyces can be considered while drinking smelly beer? Go to Walmart and pick up a welfare mom. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. 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Andy9o8 2 #14 February 7, 2009 QuoteI would have celebrated. But then I thought, "You know. I think we've moved past that." Really. Like "celebrating" the non-flatness of the world, or the fact that the Earth orbits its sun. Oo-rah Copernicus! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pinkfairy 0 #15 February 8, 2009 Yay, I hope there will be some new and exciting books on evolution coming out this year. Why is this thread in the Speaker's corner, then? If it were to get all the creationists out to argue it would surely be named something else. Like: "Creationism is nonsense" or something like that.Relax, you can die if you mess up, but it will probably not be by bullet. I'm a BIG, TOUGH BIGWAY FORMATION SKYDIVER! What are you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pinkfairy 0 #16 February 8, 2009 Quote Really. Like "celebrating" the non-flatness of the world, or the fact that the Earth orbits its sun. Oo-rah Copernicus! Hey! I think those are good reasons to celebrate any day! Pass the cake! Relax, you can die if you mess up, but it will probably not be by bullet. I'm a BIG, TOUGH BIGWAY FORMATION SKYDIVER! What are you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #17 February 8, 2009 Quote I would have celebrated. But then I thought, "You know. I think we've moved past that." Moved past celebrating great achievements every now and then? I think that's a bit sad.With the current level of public engagement in science I think we could do with celebrating more great scientists, not less. If a Darwin anniversary TV show or newspaper/magazine article encourages a kid or two to take a science degree then I'd say it's more than worthwhile.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #18 February 8, 2009 What the fuck, What the fuck, Way to go Chuck ! Little Chucky Darwin, Born the exact same day as Lincoln, Stirring up the kettle of our pre-conceived ideas Made a monkey of the churches, and their Garden of Eden, but only in America do we still resist his logic And now that he's two hundred, Just look at how we've blundered, Our textbooks Joe-the Plumbered By "Intelligent Design" Not all of his ideas Worked out in the details Some things he could not foresee, But his concept was right on So hey Chuckie D, Thanks for setting our minds free, From enslavement to mythology, You've made sense of biology, And for that we owe you BEER ! Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #19 February 9, 2009 I take it that my satire was a little tooooo subtle. Perhpas I should have written, "I think we've evolved past that." But that just kinda gives it all away... My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallingOsh 0 #20 February 9, 2009 QuoteI take it that my satire was a little tooooo subtle. Perhpas I should have written, "I think we've evolved past that." But that just kinda gives it all away... They were too busy calling everyone else stupid to understand your play on words. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #21 February 9, 2009 Unsurprisingly, Shrewsbury is celebrating all things Darwin, throughout the year . clicky (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #22 February 9, 2009 So the question remains - how does one celebrate the life of Darwin? A 'vertical dinner' with food from yogurt to monkey brains? A visit to a local brewery where the evolution of Brettanomyces and Saccharomyces can be considered while drinking smelly beer? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #23 February 9, 2009 Lots of ways, bill. You can go to the Galapogos Islands (maybe I spelled it wrong) and pray; You can do a mock-trial re-enactment of Scopes; You can sue Ben Stein and try to win his money; There are lots of things. As for me, I work and take care of my family. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SimonBones 1 #24 February 9, 2009 It took the church almost 400 years (1992) to officially recognize that Galileo was right and forgive him. Darwin has a long way still to go. Repost this in 200 years. 108 way head down world record!!! http://www.simonbones.com Hit me up on Facebook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #25 February 9, 2009 QuoteSo the question remains - how does one celebrate the life of Darwin? A 'vertical dinner' with food from yogurt to monkey brains? A visit to a local brewery where the evolution of Brettanomyces and Saccharomyces can be considered while drinking smelly beer? Go to Walmart and pick up a welfare mom. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
