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Okay.... most people are familiar with the standard "mug shot" photos taken when someone is arrested. Frontal view and profile, right?

Why would the police also include a profile of someone's shoes and a picture of the tread in a mug shot photo shoot?
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Well.... I wondered if it was part of some sort of effort to start a database of shoe prints that might be traced back to crime scenes.... but even the cop who took the pictures wasn't sure why it was being done... and seemed honest about it.
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Okay.... most people are familiar with the standard "mug shot" photos taken when someone is arrested. Frontal view and profile, right?

Why would the police also include a profile of someone's shoes and a picture of the tread in a mug shot photo shoot?



Do you have a news story for reference?

Perhaps the type of shoes are relevant to the proof of the crime for which he is accused.

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Do you have a news story for reference?

Perhaps the type of shoes are relevant to the proof of the crime for which he is accused.



Umm... no. No news story. Personal experience. Shoes definitely not involved with the crime.
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You're testing our patience, boy.



Ummm.... sorry.

Okay, I'll be up front a bit. I was arrested for a misdemeanor crime that did not involve shoes and / or harm to any other person or their property. I didn't put anyone in harms way and I didn't steal anything.... in case you wonder.

I deserved it 100% But that's not my point.

I was required to present my shoes for photographs and I'm really curious about the reason why..
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Maybe, the guy taking your picture really liked your shoes. I got nothin'...



:D They are quite nice but I'm sure that wasn't it. He actually had a little example photo he held up to show me how to hold them. Looked like it was SOP.
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:D They are quite nice but I'm sure that wasn't it. He actually had a little example photo he held up to show me how to hold them. Looked like it was SOP.



Maybe there's a problem with other inmates stealing shoes, so this is their way of proving that those belonged to you.

Maybe they're showing that the shoes don't have laces with which you could hang yourself, so that they don't have to confiscate them from you.

There's got to be some kind of bureaucratic reason behind this silly procedure.

When the Direct TV man installed a dish on my roof, he took photos of the installation, the cable wire, and the ground wire. When I asked about that, he said that he only gets paid if the installation is done in accordance with all their codes, and this is his way of proving that he did the job right if they try and cheat him out of his installation fee. So on the surface, taking a photo of a grounding wire seems silly. But that photo may keep him from losing money.

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I thought this was going to be a Bush 'shoe throwing' thread, lol. I guess if they considered your shoes to be a dangerous weapon, that could be why. These days, they can turn anything into a weapon, ie. shoe bomb etc. That's the only other reason I can think of.
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Maybe there's a problem with other inmates stealing shoes, so this is their way of proving that those belonged to you.

Maybe they're showing that the shoes don't have laces with which you could hang yourself, so that they don't have to confiscate them from you.

There's got to be some kind of bureaucratic reason behind this silly procedure.



No issue with having my shoes stolen. They took them away after the photo'd them. As for my laces... same thing. As for silly bureaucracy..... maybe.

I wondered if maybe the picture of the tread was for some sort of computerized comparison with shoe tread prints found at unsolved crime scenes? Kinda like fingerprints.... I'm really curious.

And as for computerized things... who knew that the police cruise through busy parking lots with scanners that read license plates and automatically compare them to registrations looking for people who might have a warrant?
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I wondered if maybe the picture of the tread was for some sort of computerized comparison with shoe tread prints found at unsolved crime scenes? Kinda like fingerprints.... I'm really curious.

Are your shoeprints at a past unsolved crime scene? Chances are (from what I figure) if they were trying to link them like that, the crime couldnt have been too long ago, or you would have more wear and possibly a different tread anyways and they would need a whole shit ton of evidence to lock you up... Not just based on your shoes.

And as for computerized things... who knew that the police cruise through busy parking lots with scanners that read license plates and automatically compare them to registrations looking for people who might have a warrant?

Yup, they also check to see who needs their cars towed for excessive unpaid tickets, stolen cars and a whole mess of other things
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Are your shoeprints at a past unsolved crime scene? Chances are (from what I figure) if they were trying to link them like that, the crime couldnt have been too long ago, or you would have more wear and possibly a different tread anyways and they would need a whole shit ton of evidence to lock you up... Not just based on your shoes.



I don't think it had anything at all to do with my me or my shoes in particular.
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Maybe, the guy taking your picture really liked your shoes. I got nothin'...



:D They are quite nice but I'm sure that wasn't it. He actually had a little example photo he held up to show me how to hold them. Looked like it was SOP.


On the serious side, I have never heard of this. Did he mention anything about them looking for someone meeting your description or shoes?
Do you know if they wereworking a theft case? I'm not insinuating anything... just trying to figure this one out.


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On the serious side, I have never heard of this. Did he mention anything about them looking for someone meeting your description or shoes?
Do you know if they wereworking a theft case? I'm not insinuating anything... just trying to figure this one out.



No problem..... I really don't know if there was something else involved. The young policeman who photographed my shoes was very nice and seemed genuine when he said he didn't know why it was required.

I suppose it might have been that they were looking for something else but I wasn't asked about anything outside the reason I knew I was there.

All the police involved were extremely kind and professional and never insinuated anything else.
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Could be, that particular dept. may be setting-up some kind of data base.



Yep, when someone commits a burglary, leaving a footprint at the scene that is the same as they type on his shoes, they'll come looking for him as a suspect. Then it will be up to him to prove himself innocent.

This is one of the reasons why gun registration and ballistic fingerprinting is also an idea that can rob innocent people of their liberty.

I support the right of the people to keep and wear shoes!

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I support the right of the people to keep and wear shoes!



The best I've been able to do is ask a friend who has a friend who's a deputy in the county involved.

The word I got is that the county does this to everyone in case they have a recent crime with shoe type/treads in evidence. :|

I can't really think of a reason to complain about that.... I have a bigger problem with the random scanning of license plates.
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Could be, that particular dept. may be setting-up some kind of data base.



Yep, when someone commits a burglary, leaving a footprint at the scene that is the same as they type on his shoes, they'll come looking for him as a suspect. Then it will be up to him to prove himself innocent.

This is one of the reasons why gun registration and ballistic fingerprinting is also an idea that can rob innocent people of their liberty.

I support the right of the people to keep and wear shoes!



No shirt, No shoes...


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