piper17 1 #126 January 29, 2009 I'm kinda partial to the M1 rifle and M1 carbines. Purchased an M1 Garand and 2 M1 carbines from the CMP (Civilian Marksmanship Program) which sells surplus M1 Garands, M1 carbines, Springfield 1903s etc to US civilians who can meet certain qualifications - veterans, state gun club members, etc. The CMP also sells surplus ammo for these - .30-06, .30 carbine at very good prices. I have purchased several thousand rounds for my Garands and will be ordering a thousand of the .30 carbine. Rather ironic...buying semi-auto rifles and ammo from a government-sponsored enterprise. "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #127 January 29, 2009 I've considered that for some time down the road, too...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #128 January 29, 2009 For uppers? I'm a huge fan of LaRue Tactical and Noveske. For the stock, I like MagPul CTR. Cheaper Than Dirt and Bravo Company USA have good prices and I like EoTech, that's what I run on my work gun. I use the 516 so I can use CR123 batteries (which everything else I have runs on), but its not NV compatible (which doesn't matter for me). Of course Badger Ordnance is a great shop to get parts from. Its owned by a skydiver's husband. http://www.badgerordnance.com/index.php The tactical latch is the cat's meow. Check out Bushmaster's stuff in regards to the piston system they sell. As for a lower, you could always call the same shop that did the work on your 1911 and see if they could order you one and set it aside for you. I'm willing to bet they'd accommodate. In fact, I'll be dropping by that shop in an hour or so, I'll ask for you to get the ball rolling. For BUIS you'll find that there are a LOT of options. Its really hard to go wrong with LaRue's stuff. Drop me an e-mail or a PM if you want and I can try to answer some questions, but I'm definately not an expert, there are some others out there that know a whole lot more than I do when it comes to black guns. Also, check out the book "Green Eyes and Black Rifles" its a good read. The MagPul tactical carbine DVD set is really well put together as well. You'd probably enjoy both! And no, you can't have my copies, those are currently out of my possession and is being passed around some of the trainers and tactical ninjas at work. Here's some links to get you started: Quote AR-15 links Troy Industries http://troyind.com/ Daniel Defense http://www.danieldefense.com/ LaRue Tactical http://stores.homestead.com/Laruetactical/StoreFront.bok MagPul www.magpul.com TangoDown http://www.tangodown.com/ Noveske Rifle Works http://www.noveskerifleworks.com/ Stag Arms www.stagarms.com/ DPMS http://www.dpmsinc.com/ Rock River Arms http://www.rockriverarms.com/ Wilson Combat http://www.wilsoncombat.com/ Bushmaster http://www.bushmaster.com/index.asp Bravo Company USA http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/ Cheaper Then Dirt http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/Default.aspx Lewis Machine Tool Company http://www.lewismachine.net/ --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #129 January 29, 2009 I appreciate it, Dave...thanks! Let me know what they say about pre-ordering the lower... I knew about Doc K and Badger... I'll start a new thread and see what reccomendations I can get from her and others.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boinky 0 #130 January 29, 2009 And put it.......where?Nina Are we called "DAWGs" because we stick our noses up people's butts? (RIP Buzz) Yep, you're a postwhore-billyvance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #131 January 29, 2009 Quote And put it.......where? Like always...we'll figure SOMEthing out!! We'll need someplace to store all your ammo, anyway!! Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #132 January 29, 2009 QuoteLike always...we'll figure SOMEthing out!! We'll need someplace to store all your ammo, anyway!! Might I suggest a separate firesafe for the ammo and powder. Placement on an outside wall will also lessen the temperatures should there be a fire as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #133 January 29, 2009 QuoteQuoteLike always...we'll figure SOMEthing out!! We'll need someplace to store all your ammo, anyway!! Might I suggest a separate firesafe for the ammo and powder. Placement on an outside wall will also lessen the temperatures should there be a fire as well. I'm not looking at reloading (at least not yet), but that's a good idea - thanks!Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #134 January 29, 2009 Quote the CMP (Civilian Marksmanship Program) Rather ironic...buying semi-auto rifles and ammo from a government-sponsored enterprise. And the gun-grabbers absolutely hate this program. They would much prefer that WWII surplus rifles be cut up and destroyed, rather than sell them to collectors. There's a ton of surplus M14 rifles that they would like to sell too, but we can't get a change in the law to allow that. Since M14's have a selector switch that can make them full-auto, that has to be disabled first. They have a way to do that, which is irreversible. But the law's language is a roadblock. And the necessary change ain't gonna happen in the next four years either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rwieder 0 #135 January 30, 2009 "Plus P" ammo, or not?-Richard- "You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boinky 0 #136 January 31, 2009 I was actually able to find 4 boxes of 50 rounds at Walmart today. .38 special full metal cases. I gotta' work this weekend, but I'm betting I'll be at the range on Monday! [B]YAY!!! Nina Are we called "DAWGs" because we stick our noses up people's butts? (RIP Buzz) Yep, you're a postwhore-billyvance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #137 February 1, 2009 QuoteI don't consider myself fucked up or insane at all. And personally, I take offense to your insinuations. Mad Up until a few months ago, *I* had never owned a gun either. I'm not some homicidal maniac, looking to shoot someone. I just want some ammo to target shoot at a range. What point is there in owning something you can't use? Hording ammo and weapons is different to owning a gun and having a box or two of ammo!"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boinky 0 #138 February 1, 2009 Didya' ever try to buy a used Lightning? It's VERY to find one. That's because people horde them. Why? Because everyone else wants one. When they DO managed to go on the used market, the person who buys it is the one with the most money. And normally, that is NOT the one who needs it the most. As I'm sure you know, the Second Ammendment allows us to buy/stock up as we choose. Hindsight is 20-20. I respect and salute those who had the insight to realize that guns/ammo would be in short supply. And stocked up. Don't misunderstand me. Had I realized that this gun/ammo situation was going to happen, I undoubtedly would've done something different. If I had had the money, I would've stocked up or "horded" also. Probably gotten someone to teach me how to use powder and fill my own shells.Nina Are we called "DAWGs" because we stick our noses up people's butts? (RIP Buzz) Yep, you're a postwhore-billyvance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #139 February 1, 2009 Do you buy only the food you need daily or do you buy food for a week or two at a time? FOOD HOARDER! How dare you take more than you need right this instant? Oh, I also have a couple extra bottles of oil laying around the garage for my motorcycle, just in case I need it. Does that offend as well, or should I simply wait and buy some when I'm going to do my next oil change? Buying up extra ammo to have on hand is not a big deal. Especially when you can't find some that you need, you buy extra so you don't have to worry as much next time you want to go plink (that's target shooting).--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #140 February 1, 2009 QuoteGun Ammo Shortage Go to Rweider's place. He's got plenty! http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3473538;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #141 February 1, 2009 QuoteHording ammo and weapons is different to owning a gun and having a box or two of ammo! I guess you are the type of guy that buys each lift ticket right before he gets on the plane then?"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #142 February 2, 2009 QuoteDo you buy only the food you need daily or do you buy food for a week or two at a time? FOOD HOARDER! How dare you take more than you need right this instant? I think that deep down you all realise that you are mistaken. gun hording more about the power trip, the coolness and keeping up with the joneses than self defence or sport."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #143 February 2, 2009 QuoteI think that deep down you all realise that you are mistaken. Nope. I think deep down you know that you have no idea what you are talking about. Quotegun hording more about the power trip, the coolness and keeping up with the joneses than self defence or sport. And you know this based on?????? I guess your collection of firearms? Your comment is JUST like the whuffo claiming that skydivers all are crazy and have a death wish. Or that all people with small canopies are compensating for having a small penis. I am still waiting for you to tell the group if you buy one jump ticket at a time."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #144 February 2, 2009 Quote the coolness and keeping up with the joneses than self defence or sport. I don't think you understand how much ammo I shoot yearly...its also a tax write off.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #145 February 2, 2009 QuoteHording ammo and weapons is different to owning a gun and having a box or two of ammo! Yeah, it means you can go target shooting more often with more options for more fun. And that's all. Why do you presume that because someone keeps an ample supply of ammo on-hand, that there's something evil about that? Please be specific in explaining how you believe this is dangerous to society. Warning: this will require that you think. A criminal only needs 6 bullets in a revolver to hold up a whole string of convenience stores. Perhaps you should worry about that guy, instead of the honest person who has six boxes, so he can go shoot for fun whenever he feels like it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piper17 1 #146 February 2, 2009 Don't wait too long if you want an M1, 1903, or M1 carbine. About the only firearms they seem to have available anymore is stuff they are bringing back into the USA from places like Denmark, Greece and Italy. I think most or all of the domestic milsurp firearms have dried up. Doesn't seem to be any shortage of .30-06 (Lake City and Greek stuff) from the CMP but the .30 carbine they offer is all commercial ammo."A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boinky 0 #147 February 2, 2009 I have no desire to "keep up with the Joneses." I own a single gun. One that I am very proud to have the right to own. Self defense if I had to, but mostly just for the fun of it. Going to shoot holes in a little piece of paper and seeing how accurate you can be is very stress relieving. I want to make sure that I have enough ammo on hand to allow me that one simple pleasure. If I have to stock up to prevent running out, then so be it. You call that hoarding???Nina Are we called "DAWGs" because we stick our noses up people's butts? (RIP Buzz) Yep, you're a postwhore-billyvance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #148 February 2, 2009 Quote I have no desire to "keep up with the Joneses." You can keep up with me.... if you want.. but I have a 50 year lead on ya I own a single gun. I might have a couple more One that I am very proud to have the right to own. Self defense if I had to, but mostly just for the fun of it. Going to shoot holes in a little piece of paper and seeing how accurate you can be is very stress relieving. I LOVE the smell of burning powder first thing on a Saturday morning I want to make sure that I have enough ammo on hand to allow me that one simple pleasure. If I have to stock up to prevent running out, then so be it. You call that hoarding??? Preparing for the future is always a good policy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boinky 0 #149 February 2, 2009 Quote You can keep up with me.... if you want.. but I have a 50 year lead on ya You're HOW old??? Quote I LOVE the smell of burning powder first thing on a Saturday morning You cover the weekends and I'll try to cover a day in the week. Anyone wanna' volunteer for the other 4 days? Nina Are we called "DAWGs" because we stick our noses up people's butts? (RIP Buzz) Yep, you're a postwhore-billyvance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #150 February 2, 2009 I like moving targets... feral hogs... coyotes... Paper targets are good for 'sighting-in'. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
