Is it time to register knives?

[rushmc 23]

I can only imagine the uproar, rush to judgement and hastily implimented laws (restricted ownership, reistration, banning) that would have happened had this tragity been done with a gun(s).

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,481864,00.html

.....if this had happened in the US......

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[shropshire 0]

It's impractical to register knives, axes, chisels, screw drivers, strips of steel, pointy sticks etc....

Guns, well that's a different matter - 'easier' (but not fool proof) to track & register

(.)Y(.)
Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[rushmc 23]

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It's impractical to register knives, axes, chisels, screw drivers, strips of steel, pointy sticks etc....

Guns, well that's a different matter - 'easier' (but not fool proof) to track & register

Why?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[normiss 891]

Apparently, it does happen here.
Whatever will we do?
We need mind readers, like red light cameras, something to monitor EVERYONE'S behavior.

People will most likely always "snap" and their choice of weapons will likely vary.
If only we could see it coming. Then we could simply ban everything.

[shropshire 0]

No serial numbers for a start.

(.)Y(.)
Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[rushmc 23]

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Apparently, it does happen here.
Whatever will we do?
We need mind readers, like red light cameras, something to monitor EVERYONE'S behavior.

People will most likely always "snap" and their choice of weapons will likely vary.
If only we could see it coming. Then we could simply ban everything.

It is a tool issue, and a person issue

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

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No serial numbers for a start.

there is no serial numbers on bullets today either yet some want to add them.

Maybe would be required to bring our knives in and have them serialized and registred? that way all knife crimes, illegal transfers and home build knife owner can be prosocuted? It would be easier to see where all the illeagal knifes are coming from!

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[futuredivot 0]

I've already donated all mine to TSA because I'm forgetful

You are only as strong as the prey you devour

[shropshire 0]

True but you don't register bullets (or do you?) you do register guns.

(.)Y(.)
Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[rushmc 23]

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True but you don't register bullets (or do you?) you do register guns.

years ago we had to sign a registrer for ammo. mirco stamping of ammo is one of the gun control crowds favorites today

So, because of this crime, why should we not register or ban knives? In the UK and mass killing did it for guns?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[normiss 891]

The decapitation was with a kitchen knife.
We should force everyone to eat oatmeal.
No more knives!

[rushmc 23]

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I've already donated all mine to TSA because I'm forgetful

Hope it was not any of these (Mike is a freind of mine)

http://www.knifeart.com/mikezscherny.html

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

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The decapitation was with a kitchen knife.
We should force everyone to eat oatmeal.
No more knives!

Spoons man spoon. Them forks can hurt you

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[shropshire 0]

Nice

(.)Y(.)
Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[Amazon 7]

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I can only imagine the uproar, rush to judgement and hastily implimented laws (restricted ownership, reistration, banning) that would have happened had this tragity been done with a gun(s).

I am sure the Obama administration is looking into it... as well as his wanting to take YOUR guns.

[Capt.Slog 0]

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I can only imagine the uproar, rush to judgement and hastily implimented laws (restricted ownership, reistration, banning) that would have happened had this tragity been done with a gun(s).

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,481864,00.html

.....if this had happened in the US......

When 10,000 knife murders a year are happening, that would be a good time to worry about knives. Until then guns are a much bigger problem.

[normiss 891]

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guns people are a much bigger problem

Fixed it for you....

[Capt.Slog 0]

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guns people are a much bigger problem

Fixed it for you....

We already register people.

[JohnRich 4]

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I can only imagine the uproar, rush to judgement and hastily implimented laws (restricted ownership, reistration, banning) that would have happened had this tragity been done with a gun(s).

I've already established in this thread, that the gun-o-phobes don't care about knife murders. It seems that they just don't matter... Only gun murders are important enough to do something about. Just look at Capt.Slog's message #16, above, for an example of that kind of thinking.

[normiss 891]

So we agree then there's no issue.
Awesome...onto more important issues then!

[JohnRich 4]

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It's impractical to register knives...
Guns, well that's a different matter - 'easier' (but not fool proof) to track & register

Registering objects doesn't stop the owners of those objects from later committing crimes with them. So any good it might do you is after the fact, when it's too late to save lives. And most of the time, the criminals don't leave their weapons behind for the police to trace. And if they do, they trace to a previous owner, and not the person who committed the crime. Thus, registration is a failure. Canada is getting ready to drop their gun registration program because it's a waste of money that could be better spent elsewhere. But somehow it makes liberals feel better to have lists of people that own guns. Go figure.

But if it's good enough for guns, then it ought to also be good enough for knives. They can start micro-stamping them and registering the buyers now. What's good for the goose, is good for the gander.

[Capt.Slog 0]

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I can only imagine the uproar, rush to judgement and hastily implimented laws (restricted ownership, reistration, banning) that would have happened had this tragity been done with a gun(s).

I've already established in this thread, that the gun-o-phobes don't care about knife murders. It seems that they just don't matter... Only gun murders are important enough to do something about. Just look at Capt.Slog's message #16, above, for an example of that kind of thinking.

Maybe we should care in proportion to the magnitude of the problem.

According to the FBI, "For those incidents in which the murder weapon was known, 69.5 percent were committed with a firearm. Knives or cutting instruments were employed in 14.3 percent of murders"

[JohnRich 4]

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True but you don't register bullets (or do you?) you do register guns.

Only a few places in America register guns. It doesn't help their crime rates there. In fact, those tend to be the places where gun crime is the worst.

There is a movement afoot right now to register bullets. It's being pushed by the company who has patented the technology and stands to make a fortune off of it if it becomes mandatory. They even offer pre-written legislation for any Congressman who wants to introduce it.

It would require that every box of bullets have a unique serial number. The retailer must record the buyers identity information when he purchases that ammo, and report that data to the government. Then, the theory goes, when a bullet is recovered from a crime scene, they can trace it back to the purchaser, who presumably will be the criminal. Of course, anyone can just remove the microstamp before they shoot someone, or steal someone else's ammo, or use a false ID. Oh, and this would also criminalize the reloading industry, where hobbyists make their own ammo outside of retail stores.

Numerous cities have tried registering ammo sales. After about 10 years, they all drop the program as a colossal waste of time.

[JohnRich 4]

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Maybe we should care in proportion to the magnitude of the problem. According to the FBI, "For those incidents in which the murder weapon was known, 69.5 percent were committed with a firearm. Knives or cutting instruments were employed in 14.3 percent of murders"

So when someone is stabbed to death, it's only 20% as important to do something about as when someone is shot to death?

I hope that homicide detectives don't think like you do.

[billvon 3,107]

>So when someone is stabbed to death, it's only 20% as important to
>do something about as when someone is shot to death?

Yes.

This is true in skydiving as well. If 20 people a year are dying under open canopies due to poor canopy control, and only 4 are dying every year due to bad packing - our efforts are better spent on canopy education than on packing education. (Of course, if we have time to do both, that would be great.)