nerdgirl 0 #1 January 20, 2009 [LisaH] started a thread on the fate of Michael Vick's dogs and [NWFlyer] posted a link to the Sports Illustrated story on the same topic. One quote stood out to me from the SI article on rehabilitating (some of) Michael Vick’s seized pit bulls: ‘Multiple studies have shown that if you take two mammals, say rats, and put them in boxes side by side, then give the first one electric shocks, the reaction of the second one -- in terms of brain-wave and nervous-system activity -- will be identical,’ says Stephen Zawistowski, a certified applied animal behaviorist and an executive vice president of the ASPCA. ‘The trauma isn’t limited to the animal that’s experiencing the pain.’ First off, I want to see the primary data. Second, *if,* for the sake of argument, those findings are true/valid and extend to other mammals, e.g., Homo sapiens sapiens, there are a lot of potential implications across different policy arenas. The health impact of secondary smoke led to bans on smoking in public areas. What would be the effect of secondary trauma and potential resulting policies? /Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #2 January 20, 2009 Quote First off, I want to see the primary data. When it comes to SI, it's ability to understand even basic science (or statistics) is piss poor at best. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #3 January 20, 2009 QuoteQuote First off, I want to see the primary data. When it comes to SI, it's ability to understand even basic science (or statistics) is piss poor at best. SI is quoting not analyzing. [edit to add] And the quote is from this guy, w/a PhD in biology from UIUC. And has published things like: "Behavior-genetic analysis ofPhormia regina: III. A phenotypic correlation between the central excitatory state (CES) and conditioning remains in replicated F2 generations of hybrid crosses" (Behavior Genetics). Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
