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CA says those who overpaid in 2008 are out of luck

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http://money.cnn.com/2009/01/16/news/economy/california.reut/index.htm?postversion=2009011614

SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) -- California will not pay tax refunds for individuals and business that overpaid 2008 taxes, in order to conserve dwindling cash for priority payments including school spending and debt repayment required by state law, the state's controller office said Friday.

Other state checks to be postponed for 30 days include payments for vendors who provide services and products to the state government and state checks to a million aged, blind and disabled Californians to cover rent and utilities bills, State Controller John Chiang's office said in a statement.

Various state officials have been warning in recent weeks that the most populous U.S. state's coffers would run dry if Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and lawmakers fail to balance the state's current budget. The governor in his state of the state speech Thursday said California faces insolvency within weeks if it does not balance its books.



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so can the people who owe money refuse to pay in order to "conserve dwindling cash"?



I wouldn't be surprised. They are risking a serious tax revolt, and if this sh*t is still going on when I move back out that way, I'll help with any recalls of the legislature. Recalling the "governator" at this point is moot.
So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

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I guess Ahrnold was better at groping women than balancing the books...
















Happythoughts..... Happythoughts.... where is all that righteous southern gentleman indignation for this serial sexual female abuser.... ooops

AT least Clinton didn't fuck the economy... eh what was the focus of that administration????


Its the ECONOMY stupid....

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He was elected and has done a good job from what I can tell...

is it really that bad in CA? is Zuma closed because of him? Should I cancel my next trip there because of fires? hell, the most beautiful woman I have ever slept with (Tamra) is still in CA so i dont want to see it as all that bad!!! :PB|

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Glad I haven't paid any taxes yet! I don't mind he $80 penalty, vs no reimbursement for overpaid taxes.

Ain't 80 dude. They are trying to hit me for an extra 1500 on a 1000 owed. FUCK EM
I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

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I guess Ahrnold was better at groping women than balancing the books...

Happythoughts..... Happythoughts.... where is all that righteous southern gentleman indignation for this serial sexual female abuser.... ooops

AT least Clinton didn't fuck the economy... eh what was the focus of that administration????

Its the ECONOMY stupid....



It seems like pointless baiting to criticize me for
statements that I never made.

As you said, Gov S was never actually convicted
of any crime.

However, I differ from you in two ways.
I don't believe that multiple women will make those
types of invalid claims.
I categorically state that I reject that behavior.

It is sad that you criticize me for character,
but I won't hold you to my standard.
I hope that you won't continue to wear it as a
badge of honor. I can't imagine.

Clinton did screw up the economy.

He also destroyed the respect for the US in the eyes
of other countries and made us a target for terrorist
attacks that ultimately emboldened terrorists to attack the continental US.

His policies sucked from an economic and military
perspective.

His character weakened the position of women who
oppose physical abuse and harassment.
He was the enemy of women in America.

Good hair though.

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First - the economy when Clinton left was seriously damaged. Perhaps you were too focused on his bj's to remember him as anything but the coming of the Lord!

Second - I don't blame Clinton for the dot com bust and half year of economic retraction mess he left Bush to deal with even though Bush couldn't and didn't do anythingt to fix it.

Cali's problem isn't Ahnold - the legislature here is as fucked up as you could imagine. Recall - governors don't pass budgets. Legislatures do. That's why he calls on the legislature to fix it! It's their job.


My wife is hotter than your wife.

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Second - I don't blame Clinton for the dot com bust



Before Clinton, corporations would receive tax benefits from training new employees and providing education.

At one IT company, they hired blocks of college
students and put them through a six-week training
program. They came out with immediately employable skills.

The Clinton administration killed those programs
and then actively promoted outsourcing under the
ruse that there were no educated/trained IT professionals.

The Clintons tried to remove all limits on H1-B visa
limits.

-They have tried to remove education incentives for
US companies in the IT industry.
-They promote outsourcing.
-They promote giving jobs in the US to overseas job seekers when there are equally qualified US candidates.

They spent years weakening the US economy in
the IT sector.

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Is that even legal?



It's as legal as warrant-less wiretaps. ;)


I am unsure how the actions of entity B relate
to a discussion of the actions of entity A, except
as a ruse to avoid discussing the original issue.

Otherwise, there would be no rule of law anywhere
and no clear discussion of any event.

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And what was the National Debt Under President Blow Job?



Don't change the oil in your car or do anything to
maintain it. Think of the money that you'll save today.

It happens in corporate America all the time.
The VP cancels valid long-term programs to make
his stock options look good for one quarter.
Those decisions decay the long-term health of
the corporation.

Betrayal - theme for the Clinton family.
Just another service that they offer to the American people.

She didn't call herself D-Punjab for no reason.
The Clintons have been outsourcing American jobs and importing foreign workers as fast as they can.
A $3 million campaign donation seems small,
but it's not a good quality soul that they are
buying.

The sold the Calif IT industry out as quick as they could.

Destroying the present and the future takes effort.

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Otherwise, there would be no rule of law anywhere
and no clear discussion of any event.



Ahhhh.... a fair description of the last 8 years in American politics, eh?



A fair description of the discussion of any topic
on Speakers Corner.

I fully expect that one day, an actor will be shot
by a politician and someone will post that Lincoln
was shot by an actor first - so that somehow makes
it ok.

It is just a technique to avoid actually arriving at
a conclusion on one topic. I don't know why it is
such a difficult concept.

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