akarunway 1 #1 January 9, 2009 Killing my entertainment> http://www.bemidjipioneer.com/articles/index.cfm?id=20594§ion=News And it like the NE is getting to get blasted again. Freak. I froze my ass off at the beach in San Diego last week. Global warming MY ASS.In a related story>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090108/ap_on_re_us/alaska_extreme_cold Now if they cancel the Iditarod I'm really gonna be upsetI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #2 January 9, 2009 Record snow falls, record cold temperatures... makes me wonder. Maybe, it's just a 'cycle'.Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #3 January 9, 2009 Don't you know...the global warming folks are now saying it has nothing to do with weather.... So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #4 January 9, 2009 It's cold enough to freeze the balls off of a brass monkey around here this week brrrrrrrrrrrr (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #5 January 9, 2009 you are such a denier look, the rules are as follows: 1 - if it gets warmer, it's due to man made global warming 2 - if it gets colder, it's due to man made global warming 3 - if it doesn't change at all, it's due to man made global warming $o $ayeth we all amen ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #6 January 9, 2009 Quote you are such a denier look, the rules are as follows: 1 - if it gets warmer, it's due to man made global warming 2 - if it gets colder, it's due to man made global warming 3 - if it doesn't change at all, it's due to man made global warming $o $ayeth we all amen ...and I suppose, there's rainbow stew and free Bubble-Up? Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #7 January 9, 2009 Just yesterday I read about the last ten days of -60 in parts of Alaska. I'll bet the northwest passage is still open. In other news, Manbearpig was just put on the Endangered Species List. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #8 January 9, 2009 Ouch ... even in C that's chuffing cold (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #9 January 9, 2009 QuoteOuch ... even in C that's chuffing cold Actually if it were in C it would be a lot colder. Alaska's (and US's record cold was -62C=-80F. -60F on the other hand is a positively balmy -52C. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #10 January 9, 2009 Whoops, Oh Yeah Silly me. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #11 January 9, 2009 "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,112 #12 January 9, 2009 >1 - if it gets warmer, it's due to man made global warming >2 - if it gets colder, it's due to man made global warming No no, you've got that all backwards. If it gets colder, then THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS GLOBAL WARMING. Anyone who thinks it is is a fool. The climate changes naturally all the time. If it stays the same, then well, duh. The climate naturally stays in equilibrium. Only the Chicken Little types think that it's changing in either direction. If it gets warmer, well, of course there's global warming; anyone with half a brain can see that it's getting warmer. But only a fool thinks that man has anything to do with it. It's all NATURAL. Get on the ball, man! It's supposed to hit 85 this weekend here. Get your ducks in a row so you'll know who to mock come Monday, lest you be banished to some less-abrasive forum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #13 January 9, 2009 Quoteyou are such a denier look, the rules are as follows: 1 - if it gets warmer, it's due to man made global warming 2 - if it gets colder, it's due to man made global warming 3 - if it doesn't change at all, it's due to man made global warming $o $ayeth we all amen damn global warming MUST be causing this too but it makes me wonder where the water that is going to cover the shores is coming from? http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/02/16/ice-between-canada-and-sw-greenland-highest-level-in-15-years/ http://media.www.thecampuspress.com/media/storage/paper1098/news/2007/10/09/News/Cu.Research.Indicates.Polar.Ice.Levels.Hit.Record.Low-3020059.shtml And they have talking about and reporting it.... .....ahhhh... ..... ...... ..... somewhere.........right?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #14 January 9, 2009 and they have known since May????? http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=3066 And this one speaks to temp records (through studies I have talked about before) going back further than instrument readings going back to the 1880’s (if I remember correctly) http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2006/11/17/cooling-the-debate-a-longer-record-of-greenland-air-temperature/"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinnay 0 #15 January 9, 2009 QuoteKilling my entertainment> http://www.bemidjipioneer.com/articles/index.cfm?id=20594§ion=News And it like the NE is getting to get blasted again. Freak. I froze my ass off at the beach in San Diego last week. Global warming MY ASS.In a related story>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090108/ap_on_re_us/alaska_extreme_cold Now if they cancel the Iditarod I'm really gonna be upset Good, the people who organize and participate in these races are scumbags http://www.google.com/search?q=Iditarod+cruelty&btnG=Search&hl=en&sa=2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #16 January 9, 2009 Well right now we are having the second 500 year flood in this area since I bought my house. There have also been several 100 year floods.. in the last 10 yearsDamn good thing I bought this house up in the hills and away from water courses It does not take a genius.. that if you make the water warmer by a degree or so.. there is more evaporation of water into the atmosphere. Since 3/4 of this planet is covered in water all that moisture laden air that is pouring in off the Not So Pacific Ocean... looses all that water due to orographic effect. I happen to live on some of that rise.. so voila.. MORE RAIN.. and 2 weeks ago.. all that moisture was falling into a little bit colder air mass coming from the north and east.. and over 2 ft of snow in my yard.. That is more than has ever been there since I moved here.. Made for a very pretty white Christmas.. but when this warm moisture laden air mass supplanted it... all of this rain ( 13.45" at Stevens Pass) fell on all the snow and melted it as well.. voila... FLOODS. Its the perfect storm for flooding... building collapses from very heavy snow soaked with water.. mudslides.. landslides... Fun stuff.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
speedy 0 #17 January 9, 2009 Hey don't forget, it's "Global" and not about local weather in the U.S. ! Europe is also having a local weather problem, it's damn cold here too! Dave Fallschirmsport Marl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #18 January 9, 2009 I've been hearing that your area has been getting a lot of rain but, that looks just plain rough. All we've gotten in regard to reports of the 'mess' up there is verbal... no pictures. The pictures you posted looks much worse. We've got a creek that runs by our place (only during the rainy season) and like you, our place is up the mountain and out of danger. Right now, as dry as it is and with the high winds we get, our big fear is fire. I hope, it quits raining and y'all get some relief. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #19 January 9, 2009 Damn that is beautiful country!! I too hope you get some relief from the rain soon. Floods suck big time. Marc"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #20 January 10, 2009 Well the water is going down.. I attached some more pics... I thought for sure Pilot Dudes bridge would be gone but damn its built tough.. just washed out at each end.. the planks stayed put.. but several logs that washed down the little stream turned raging river... nearly took it out.. he was out there with a saw breaking the jam up one log at a time. One of the reasons its like this is over 2 ft of snow that has melted the last few days with all the warm rain... before it all melted though it has wiped out all kinds of structures... The Valley pic is of a farm basically under water.. but the water is down about 10 ft from yesterday The closed road Tualco... is on hundreds of roads around here... only idots proceed past those signs.... in many cases the roads are washed out under the water.... and surprises happen when you drop in a hole you did not see under the water... where you thought a road was. All these are with a couple miles of my house... Me.. I live up on the hills Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #21 January 10, 2009 Brings back memories of last summer when my 20 mile work commute became 70 miles."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #22 January 10, 2009 Luckily I can work from home.. otherwise I would have to drive about three times the normal 23 miles... Oh.. I attached this one finally.. its a metal quonset hut.. the snow got so heavy with the rain.. it collapsed it.. I was going to buy one of these.. but now.. No way... I watched the guy jack it up to get the tractor and his little TR-7 convertible out... the tractor only was bent a little.. and saved the TR Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #23 January 10, 2009 QuoteLuckily I can work from home.. otherwise I would have to drive about three times the normal 23 miles... Oh.. I attached this one finally.. its a metal quonset hut.. the snow got so heavy with the rain.. it collapsed it.. I was going to buy one of these.. but now.. No way... I watched the guy jack it up to get the tractor and his little TR-7 convertible out... the tractor only was bent a little.. and saved the TR What are the forecasters saying? Gonna end anytime soon or are you still in the cycle?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #24 January 10, 2009 For now.. we are going back to more normal conditions...... but the last month.. shit... way outside the norm.. VERY VERY wet... this one was another record.. breaking the records from 2 years ago that were set... and the previous records from 1996.... I can dig records as much as the next person.. ( I even own a couple myself) but this shit.. is getting old.. I think they need to redefine what the hell a 500 year flood is... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #25 January 10, 2009 QuoteFor now.. we are going back to more normal conditions...... but the last month.. shit... way outside the norm.. VERY VERY wet... this one was another record.. breaking the records from 2 years ago that were set... and the previous records from 1996.... I can dig records as much as the next person.. ( I even own a couple myself) but this shit.. is getting old.. I think they need to redefine what the hell a 500 year flood is... I know what you are talking about. I hope things stay dry Marc"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
