RALFFERS 0 #1 January 8, 2009 What do you guys think of this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjALf12PAWcDialogue/commentary between Divot, Twardo & myself - "from your first Oshkosh when the three of us were riding to or from one of Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RALFFERS 0 #2 January 8, 2009 What? - no one has the 47 minutes to watch the video? Your missing out. I am saddened to say that I agree with the speaker - America is done!.........unless we do something!Dialogue/commentary between Divot, Twardo & myself - "from your first Oshkosh when the three of us were riding to or from one of Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #3 January 8, 2009 Well there is nothing new here. Wolf does a good job of collating what anyone paying attention already knew; the military(surveillance, penal) - industrial complex exerts constant pressure on democratic institutions, and the last eight years have especially trying. The question is will the Obama administration conduct a holding action or push-back? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #4 January 8, 2009 Like vote in a new President who'll 'change' everything for the better? There you go; problem solved! You guys have already done something. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
434 2 #5 January 8, 2009 The end of America? You guys only think it is all about you! It is the end of the West, how we know it to be today! The interesting Question is: Will it be Asia or Russia who will lead in the future, after total collaps! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #6 January 8, 2009 oh please. how many times in the past have we heard people moaning about "It's the EEENNNNND!" Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #7 January 8, 2009 Quote oh please. how many times in the past have we heard people moaning about "It's the EEENNNNND!" I guess you're not on the list.Me neither, so it's all good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
434 2 #8 January 8, 2009 Depence what you mean "The end" You still believe USA will play the same role in the future as the Center of the economic power? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joedirt 0 #9 January 8, 2009 I think she's too politically skewed, or else she's not that bright. First time I ever heard of her was in October when she said Bush's coup was taking place and we would never see an election. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
feuergnom 29 #10 January 8, 2009 just what Andrewwhyte said: nothing new here and neither very originalThe universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RALFFERS 0 #11 January 9, 2009 Quoteoh please. how many times in the past have we heard people moaning about "It's the EEENNNNND!" You say that like it's not in the realm of possibility.... Lest we forget that other worlf powers have ended; Rome, Egypt, the Mayans, etc, etc... I'm sure back then people were saying: "how many times have we heard it's the end?..." also. American's aren't as special as we make ourselves out to be. We're just human beings like everyone else.....who happened to be abundantly privileged, blessed and fortunate - until now.Dialogue/commentary between Divot, Twardo & myself - "from your first Oshkosh when the three of us were riding to or from one of Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RALFFERS 0 #12 January 9, 2009 Quotejust what Andrewwhyte said: nothing new here and neither very original I realize it's nothing new - but seeing it in a 47 minute, bullet point presentation drove the point home very clearly. and does it matter that this is nothing new? Does that fact make the reality of what's going on any more or less dangerous?...Dialogue/commentary between Divot, Twardo & myself - "from your first Oshkosh when the three of us were riding to or from one of Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallingOsh 0 #13 January 9, 2009 QuoteDepence what you mean "The end" You still believe USA will play the same role in the future as the Center of the economic power? Same role? No. Major role? Absolutely. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallingOsh 0 #14 January 9, 2009 Quote You say that like it's not in the realm of possibility.... Lest we forget that other worlf powers have ended; Rome, Egypt, the Mayans, etc, etc... I'm sure back then people were saying: "how many times have we heard it's the end?..." also. The world is slightly different than Roman and Mayan ages. The Soviet Union completely collapsed and the society didn't cease to exist. The housing market taking a dump and the Dow dipping below 8,000 is hardly the end of the world. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
feuergnom 29 #15 January 9, 2009 QuoteDoes that fact make the reality of what's going on any more or less dangerous?.. and it doesn't change the fact, that the majority of people 1)is to lazy to care 2) is to absorbed in their everydaylive to care (working for food/shelter etc) 3) is so deep into this system, that nobody even wants to try and make a change point 4) maybe som[email]e even realize that no matter how hard we (as single persons) try to make a difference we still ave to come to the conclusion we are parts of the system and as such just pawns to be moved around end of lineThe universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tink1717 2 #16 January 13, 2009 I think her attempt to awaken the people to the danger has failed. No one cared. Not even the incoming admin. I'm also surprised that Bush hasn't perpetrated the final stage of a the coup that he was obviously planning.Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites