ryoder 1,590 #26 January 5, 2009 Quote - When there was some type of civil vs gov issue, the special interests (like money-scamming lawyers and the ACLU) would demand a state-level special investigation to override the usual legal process. Jeb would say, "There is a process in place and we will follow that." So, he supported the structure of govt and law and gave no one special privilege. He also didn't strong arm the local politicians just because some special interest wanted him to. Huh?And his last name is "Bush"? He must have been adopted."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #27 January 5, 2009 Quote Quote - When there was some type of civil vs gov issue, the special interests (like money-scamming lawyers and the ACLU) would demand a state-level special investigation to override the usual legal process. Jeb would say, "There is a process in place and we will follow that." So, he supported the structure of govt and law and gave no one special privilege. He also didn't strong arm the local politicians just because some special interest wanted him to. Huh?And his last name is "Bush"? He must have been adopted. There were different situations. Different govt agencies. Police officers, hurricane preparedness... Each time - he supported the people, the agencies, and the process. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #28 January 5, 2009 Quote JFK was sold to the American public like Elvis. Handsome and personable. The first President that tv really helped (Kennedy vs Nixon debate). Actually, he messed up just about everything he touched. He won the Moon race, though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #29 January 5, 2009 Quote - The first one was the amount of criticism because of his name. Nothing was ever said about his actual actions, legislation, or programs. Many critics had (as usual) no actual knowledge, just knee jerk reactions. I think the criticism all came out of the 2000 election with suspicion that he rigged the election, both in the counting (dubious at best), and the purging of the voter polls (more substantial, but could be explained by incompetence of the process rather than ill intent). Given how many people still haven't gotten over 2000, it's easy to see how Jeb is smeared with it. It may linger in history the same way Kennedy takes Illinois in 1960. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #30 January 5, 2009 QuoteSo, he supported the structure of govt and law and gave no one special privilege. He also didn't strong arm the local politicians just because some special interest wanted him to. - He understood the culture of the state. Didn't he take a controversial stance on that Schaivo brain-dead person issue? Didn't he side with (or maybe even participate in) an end around to keep her alive? That is the only thing that really stands out. That and the fact that when he speaks he sounds like the typical special interest lapdog fast talking double-speak full of shit manipulative superficial politician." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #31 January 5, 2009 QuotePeople already forgot what a crappy job Dad did the first time around, but now that W has trashed this country like a bull in a china shop, maybe the lesson will stick, though I'm not taking any bets. Considering all of his sons were taught their leadership skills by the guy who was an aircraft commander who saved himself by abandoning his crew when his aircraft was hit ( they all died) are we really surprised how they have turned out... The Bush boys are the EPITOME of the me first generation.... serving themselves is far more important than little things like honor... duty.... legality. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallingOsh 0 #32 January 5, 2009 QuoteQuotePeople already forgot what a crappy job Dad did the first time around, but now that W has trashed this country like a bull in a china shop, maybe the lesson will stick, though I'm not taking any bets. Considering all of his sons were taught their leadership skills by the guy who was an aircraft commander who saved himself by abandoning his crew when his aircraft was hit ( they all died) are we really surprised how they have turned out... The Bush boys are the EPITOME of the me first generation.... serving themselves is far more important than little things like honor... duty.... legality. A. You're ignoring Jeb's record and connecting him to actions done by his father B. That is a grossly over-simplified account of the Avenger being shot down. Radio transmissions were heard commanding the bailout. Unfortunately, two people died; one from his chute not opening. Bush earned the DFC for completing the bomb run after taking hits and then piloting the aircraft out to sea before commanding the bailout. C. You ignore the 57 other combat missions and the DFC The Bush boys are in their late 50's and 60's. They're not the me generation. One of Jeb's strong points is his commitment to legality and the system, as previously stated. You obviously don't like him because of his last name which just proves the point of several posts. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #33 January 5, 2009 QuoteYou obviously don't like him because of his last name which just proves the point of several posts. you goof - Jeanne may or may not like him just fine, it's just more fun for her to hack on him arbitrarily because it gets some people's dander up much like saying anything negative about the Obama godlike apparition ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #34 January 5, 2009 Quotetwo people died; one from his chute not opening. Type of container? Wing loading? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #35 January 5, 2009 Quotemuch like saying anything negative about the Obama godlike apparition I have a silhouette of Him on my grilled cheese sandwich. The bids on e-Bay are already through the roof. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #36 January 5, 2009 How about the black velvet painting of him riding a unicorn. It makes sense, really.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #37 January 5, 2009 QuoteHow about the black velvet painting of Him riding a unicorn. It makes sense, really. Fixed it for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,589 #38 January 5, 2009 Quoteis bright, articulate, was well-accomplished in his pre-politics life, and excelled academically. So who becomes President? Dumb ol' hard-drinking, underachieving big brother BlutoA friend of mine grew up down the street from them in Midland. He thought the same thing. Said Jeb was a really nice guy, and George was something of an asshole. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #39 January 5, 2009 Quote Quote two people died; one from his chute not opening. Type of container? Wing loading? Ah shit, that was funny! I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #40 January 5, 2009 QuoteQuoteHow about the black velvet painting of Him riding a unicorn. It makes sense, really. Fixed it for you. You're on a roll, bro. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #41 January 6, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteHow about the black velvet painting of Him riding a unicorn. It makes sense, really. Fixed it for you. You're on a roll, bro. It's really good stuff today ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #42 January 6, 2009 >How about the black velvet painting of him riding a unicorn. Isn't it creepy how his eyes seem to follow you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #43 January 6, 2009 QuoteIsn't it creepy how his eyes seem to follow you? Yeah, especially since we all know that Unicorns are evil.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #44 January 6, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuotePeople already forgot what a crappy job Dad did the first time around, but now that W has trashed this country like a bull in a china shop, maybe the lesson will stick, though I'm not taking any bets. Considering all of his sons were taught their leadership skills by the guy who was an aircraft commander who saved himself by abandoning his crew when his aircraft was hit ( they all died) are we really surprised how they have turned out... The Bush boys are the EPITOME of the me first generation.... serving themselves is far more important than little things like honor... duty.... legality. A. You're ignoring Jeb's record and connecting him to actions done by his father B. That is a grossly over-simplified account of the Avenger being shot down. Radio transmissions were heard commanding the bailout. Unfortunately, two people died; one from his chute not opening. Bush earned the DFC for completing the bomb run after taking hits and then piloting the aircraft out to sea before commanding the bailout. C. You ignore the 57 other combat missions and the DFC The Bush boys are in their late 50's and 60's. They're not the me generation. One of Jeb's strong points is his commitment to legality and the system, as previously stated. You obviously don't like him because of his last name which just proves the point of several posts.LOL. This guy?>[url]http://www.whoseflorida.com/jeb-said_did.htm[url]. He's just like the rest of the family. Plundered Florida is what he did........ "It is revealing that the governor, who praises his record, isn't running on it. "When candidate Jeb Bush campaigned in 1998, he said, "Florida can do better." Thanks to the work of his Democratic predecessor, he inherited a budget surplus of roughly $2 billion. Florida was poised to do better, even to do great things. Instead, Gov. Bush squandered the surplus on tax cuts that have returned nothing for the state. Having made lower taxes for a few corporations and the wealthiest 4.5 percent of Floridians his priority, the governor provided slogans and gimmicks that he hoped would fulfill his campaign pledge. ... It is revealing that the governor, who praises his record, isn't running on it. When he isn't trying to sound like Mr. McBride on education, he is resorting to ads that lie about almost every McBride position and jab frantically at every hot-button issue: taxes, the death penalty, gun control. This is the Jeb Bush who in 1994 falsely accused Lawton Chiles of blocking a child-killer's execution. The same Jeb Bush ran in 1998. He just used a different script. Once in office, however, he reverted to the ideologue of eight years ago, taking a wrecking ball to state government before he has a blueprint." (Palm Beach Post editorial, October 27, 2002)"I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #45 January 7, 2009 Maybe there is a god. Hopefully Jeb will have a massive heart attack before 2012> ....... UPDATED, 3:48 p.m. ET: Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush will not run for the open Senate seat of Sen. Mel Martinez, he announced in a statement released moments ago. "After thoughtful consideration, I have decided not to run for the United States Senate in 2010," said Bush. "While the opportunity to serve my state and country during these turbulent and dynamic times is compelling, now is not the right time to return to elected office." Bush's decision robs Republicans of a top-tier recruit who would have immediately been favored to hold Martinez's seat. Without Bush in the race, Republicans are almost certain to play host to a crowded and competitive primary. The announcement comes after 48 hours of rampant rumors among the Florida political community that Bush had decided not to make the race.I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #46 January 7, 2009 Quote Maybe there is a god. Hopefully Jeb will have a massive heart attack before 2012> ....... Wishing death on someone because of their political beliefs? Wow, you're quite the exemplar of the 'party of tolerance'... Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #47 January 7, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuotePeople already forgot what a crappy job Dad did the first time around, but now that W has trashed this country like a bull in a china shop, maybe the lesson will stick, though I'm not taking any bets. Considering all of his sons were taught their leadership skills by the guy who was an aircraft commander who saved himself by abandoning his crew when his aircraft was hit ( they all died) are we really surprised how they have turned out... The Bush boys are the EPITOME of the me first generation.... serving themselves is far more important than little things like honor... duty.... legality. A. You're ignoring Jeb's record and connecting him to actions done by his father B. That is a grossly over-simplified account of the Avenger being shot down. Radio transmissions were heard commanding the bailout. Unfortunately, two people died; one from his chute not opening. Bush earned the DFC for completing the bomb run after taking hits and then piloting the aircraft out to sea before commanding the bailout. C. You ignore the 57 other combat missions and the DFC The Bush boys are in their late 50's and 60's. They're not the me generation. One of Jeb's strong points is his commitment to legality and the system, as previously stated. You obviously don't like him because of his last name which just proves the point of several posts.LOL. This guy?>[url]http://www.whoseflorida.com/jeb-said_did.htm[url]. He's just like the rest of the family. Plundered Florida is what he did........ "It is revealing that the governor, who praises his record, isn't running on it. "When candidate Jeb Bush campaigned in 1998, he said, "Florida can do better." Thanks to the work of his Democratic predecessor, he inherited a budget surplus of roughly $2 billion. Florida was poised to do better, even to do great things. Instead, Gov. Bush squandered the surplus on tax cuts that have returned nothing for the state. Having made lower taxes for a few corporations and the wealthiest 4.5 percent of Floridians his priority, the governor provided slogans and gimmicks that he hoped would fulfill his campaign pledge. ... It is revealing that the governor, who praises his record, isn't running on it. When he isn't trying to sound like Mr. McBride on education, he is resorting to ads that lie about almost every McBride position and jab frantically at every hot-button issue: taxes, the death penalty, gun control. This is the Jeb Bush who in 1994 falsely accused Lawton Chiles of blocking a child-killer's execution. The same Jeb Bush ran in 1998. He just used a different script. Once in office, however, he reverted to the ideologue of eight years ago, taking a wrecking ball to state government before he has a blueprint." (Palm Beach Post editorial, October 27, 2002)" You couldn't possibly blame the 6 or 8 huricanes (can't remember the number) and other things for using up the surplus. nope your right his last name is Bush so that has to be it. Most Florida residents like Jeb and considered him a good govener. the programs he set up are, for the most part, liked by the people of Florida. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #48 January 7, 2009 Quote You couldn't possibly blame the 6 or 8 huricanes (can't remember the number) and other things for using up the surplus. nope your right his last name is Bush so that has to be it. In general, states that taxed income or capital gains (is Florida either?) had a surplus in the late 90s. Of course, that revenue dried up a few years later, while many states foolishly increased spending as if that could never happen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #49 January 7, 2009 Quote Quote Maybe there is a god. Hopefully Jeb will have a massive heart attack before 2012> ....... Wishing death on someone because of their political beliefs? Wow, you're quite the exemplar of the 'party of tolerance'... Read my sig line. I ain't a dem or a pub. Fuck em all. That's what they are doing to you. I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #50 January 8, 2009 Quote I ain't a dem or a pub. Uh huh... Quote Fuck em all. That's what they are doing to you. That they are.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
