shropshire 0 #1 January 3, 2009 QuoteIsraeli ground troops have entered the Gaza Strip, Israeli military officials have confirmed, a week after the offensive against Hamas began. clicky (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallingOsh 0 #2 January 3, 2009 The best thing they could do right now is plow in with trucks full of humanitarian aid for the civilians. I think it would help them more than anything else. Both the Palestinians and the world would view the situation differently. I don't think it'll happen, but I wish it would. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #3 January 3, 2009 You're right but I can't see it happening. Doesn't seem to be that way that things work in that part of the world, unfortunately (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #4 January 3, 2009 QuoteQuoteIsraeli ground troops have entered the Gaza Strip, Israeli military officials have confirmed, a week after the offensive against Hamas began. clicky That entire article omits the fact that Hamas had been throwing rockets indiscriminately even during the cease-fire. Then, after the cease fire, some 80-100 rockets the next day... Hamas has proven it can't run a country. Even with tainted outside aid. My only hope is that as soon as Israeli tanks are done flattening Hamas' stranglehold, that there are trucks full of relief followed by Red-Cross, Red-Crescent. Then, I'd like to see a neutral occupying force while the Palestinians pick up the pieces, how about Switzerland or Sweden, bring in Abbas from the West Bank and start fresh. It's not like Gaza isn't in a good location...Eastern Mediterranean...So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #5 January 3, 2009 I don't know mate .,.. but it just seems like the innocents always pick up the shitty end of the stick in these situations (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #6 January 3, 2009 Quote I don't know mate .,.. but it just seems like the innocents always pick up the shitty end of the stick in these situations No doubt, but their losses are meaningless when you have media coverage like that. Good God man!! Did everyone suddenly forget that at the end of the Palestinian mandate, the almighty UN had a plan, which was rejected by the Palestinians? Since then, Israel has been in more conflicts than any other nation on earth, and they're still there. The Palestinians need to wake up and be thankful for what they have and get on with it. The Arab world doesn't care about them, they just want to use them to keep inciting Israel. If we can start being more direct in our intervention of funding from Iran, I think Hamas would shrink quickly...So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #7 January 3, 2009 Agreed. I don't think this is an all out end run, more like a move to take some ground and then open negotiations again.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #8 January 3, 2009 If Hamas wanted peace, they would not have launched rockets into Israel. Launch rockets - get the shit kicked out of you. Don't launch rockets - have some peace. Seems pretty simple to me. All of these protestors who were silent when Hamas was launching rockets against Israel really don't have a bit of credibility when they call for peace. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #9 January 3, 2009 It's more than just the rockets. It's the tunnels that are continually being dug/used beneath the barricade walls to smuggle in bombs and incendiary devices...The tunnels, the system there, and the extremely evident restraint the Israeli's exhibit towards the Palestinians is almost inconceivable. Spend 2-3 weeks near the Gaza...regardless of how liberal you might be, you'll understand. And wonder why the Israeli's simply haven't wiped the Palestinians off the map. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #10 January 4, 2009 Daniel Schorr had some very interesting analysis this morning on NPR, where he's working even though he's now over ninety years old. As he sees it, both Gaza and the 2006 war in Lebanon with Hezbollah are backed by Iran. the Iranian government is fighting wars-by-proxy against Israel by supporting these groups. It's something the Soviets, Americans, and Chinese have been doing for decades in other parts of the world. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
falxori 0 #11 January 4, 2009 QuoteThe best thing they could do right now is plow in with trucks full of humanitarian aid for the civilians actually, the border crossings to Gaza have been open and lots of supplies (food and medical) were delivered in the past few days. Our war is not with the palestinian people, even though they have elected Hamas as their government. "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #12 January 4, 2009 Quote Our war is not with the palestinian people, even though they have elected Hamas as their government. It sucks when democratic elections do not go the way Israel, and the US wanted.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
falxori 0 #13 January 4, 2009 QuoteIt sucks when democratic elections do not go the way Israel, and the US wanted. yes, it does. but if that's what they've elected... the fact that Hamas was elected democratically does not reduce the legitimacy of this operation. if anything, it strengthens it. O "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #14 January 4, 2009 How about Switzerland or Sweden, bring in Abba from the West Bank and start fresh. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #15 January 4, 2009 QuoteQuoteIt sucks when democratic elections do not go the way Israel, and the US wanted. yes, it does. but if that's what they've elected... the fact that Hamas was elected democratically does not reduce the legitimacy of this operation. if anything, it strengthens it. O Thats a fair point.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #16 January 4, 2009 QuoteQuoteThe best thing they could do right now is plow in with trucks full of humanitarian aid for the civilians actually, the border crossings to Gaza have been open and lots of supplies (food and medical) were delivered in the past few days. Our war is not with the palestinian people, even though they have elected Hamas as their government. Correction, they elected Abbas, not the arm of Hamas that seized power in Gaza.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #17 January 4, 2009 Here's a pretty fair thumbnail sketch of Hamas: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #18 January 4, 2009 Quote How about Switzerland or Sweden, bring in Abba from the West Bank and start fresh. ?? ... Sweden...Sweden ... Oh! You mean these guys? http://www.jjbstadium.co.uk/images/whatson/zoom/planet_abba_zoom.jpg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
