TheAnvil 0 #1 January 3, 2009 Oh, it's about time for some good political news...and this morning I got it! Haha! Things aren't looking so peachy for card check. Defeating this absolutely abominable piece of legislation should be top political priority for anyone who loves their country and doesn't want to see it go further down the road to HELL in a hand-basket. It would take away the right to a secret ballot and make it far easier for unions to intimidate workers into voting to unionize. The cowards promoting it don't have the balls to publicly state WHY the secret ballot came about in the first place. Anyway, to hear anything that doesn't portend well for the card-check abomination is good news to me. From today's WSJ Opinion section: "The Senate Goes Wobbly on Card Check It's hard to defend taking away the secret ballot. By KIMBERLEY A. STRASSEL Responsibility has a way of focusing the mind. Take Mark Pryor, Democratic senator from Arkansas. In 2007, Mr. Pryor voted to move card check, Big Labor's No. 1 priority. And why not? Mr. Pryor knew the GOP would block the bill, which gets rid of secret ballots in union elections. Besides, his support helped guarantee labor wouldn't field a challenger to him in the primary. Postelection, Mr. Pryor isn't so committed. He's indicated he wouldn't co-sponsor the legislation again. He says he'd like to find common ground between labor and business. He is telling people the bill isn't on a Senate fast-track, anyway. His business community, which has nimbly whipped up anti-card-check sentiment across his right-to-work state, is getting a more polite hearing. It hasn't been much noticed, but the political ground is already shifting under Big Labor's card-check initiative. The unions poured unprecedented money and manpower into getting Democrats elected; their payoff was supposed to be a bill that would allow them to intimidate more workers into joining unions. The conventional wisdom was that Barack Obama and an unfettered Democratic majority would write that check, lickety-split. Instead, union leaders now say they are being told card check won't happen soon. It seems the Obama team plans to devote its opening months to important issues, like the economy, and has no intention of jumping straight into the mother of all labor brawls. It also seems Majority Leader Harry Reid, even with his new numbers, might not have what it takes to overcome a filibuster. It's a case study in how quickly a political landscape can change, and how frequently the conventional wisdom is wrong. ..." Get the Journal for the rest. SUPERB news! Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #2 January 3, 2009 That is good news. Secret ballotting can be traced back to the ancient Greeks and Romans. It's purpose was, and still is, to allow a person to vote without fear of reprisal or intimidation. The weak arguments put forth by the unions fail to conceal their true motives.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #3 January 3, 2009 While I hope what this opinion piece says is true, the reality is that we don't know how big the wave of "payback calls" will be on January 20th. The unions will redouble the effort, despite the fact that it likely won't get through the Senate, once Mr. Obama becomes President Obama. What bothers me most about these liberal policies that will find new footing in a few weeks is this: What will happen when these "GFIs" (Great F**king Ideas) come to fruition and they are subject to these erosions of freedom (and don't give me patriot act bullsh*t...no one here has lost their liberties in any direct fashion) that will result from things like not being able to vote a secret ballot, or eat certain foods (because now trans-fats are illegal in some areas), or buy certain cars...down the slope to what can/can't be said on news, radio, films, books, or TV. It stifles the imagination... So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #4 January 3, 2009 I fully expect the union shitheads to put up a HUGE fight for this. With the recent UAW mess and the current climate in the Senate and House, I expect it to be defeated. Businesses everywhere - even McDonald's - have already come out against this and will not allow the socialists a victory here without one HELL of a fight - at the grassroots level. Of all the GFIs, as you put it, that are going to come out I rate card check as the absolute worst to date. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #5 January 3, 2009 Quote Oh, it's about time for some good political news...and this morning I got it! Haha! Things aren't looking so peachy for card check. Defeating this absolutely abominable piece of legislation should be top political priority for anyone who loves their country and doesn't want to see it go further down the road to HELL in a hand-basket. It would take away the right to a secret ballot and make it far easier for unions to intimidate workers into voting to unionize. The cowards promoting it don't have the balls to publicly state WHY the secret ballot came about in the first place. Anyway, to hear anything that doesn't portend well for the card-check abomination is good news to me. From today's WSJ Opinion section: "The Senate Goes Wobbly on Card Check It's hard to defend taking away the secret ballot. By KIMBERLEY A. STRASSEL Responsibility has a way of focusing the mind. Take Mark Pryor, Democratic senator from Arkansas. In 2007, Mr. Pryor voted to move card check, Big Labor's No. 1 priority. And why not? Mr. Pryor knew the GOP would block the bill, which gets rid of secret ballots in union elections. Besides, his support helped guarantee labor wouldn't field a challenger to him in the primary. Postelection, Mr. Pryor isn't so committed. He's indicated he wouldn't co-sponsor the legislation again. He says he'd like to find common ground between labor and business. He is telling people the bill isn't on a Senate fast-track, anyway. His business community, which has nimbly whipped up anti-card-check sentiment across his right-to-work state, is getting a more polite hearing. It hasn't been much noticed, but the political ground is already shifting under Big Labor's card-check initiative. The unions poured unprecedented money and manpower into getting Democrats elected; their payoff was supposed to be a bill that would allow them to intimidate more workers into joining unions. The conventional wisdom was that Barack Obama and an unfettered Democratic majority would write that check, lickety-split. Instead, union leaders now say they are being told card check won't happen soon. It seems the Obama team plans to devote its opening months to important issues, like the economy, and has no intention of jumping straight into the mother of all labor brawls. It also seems Majority Leader Harry Reid, even with his new numbers, might not have what it takes to overcome a filibuster. It's a case study in how quickly a political landscape can change, and how frequently the conventional wisdom is wrong. ..." Get the Journal for the rest. SUPERB news! INTIMIDATE. Harsh WRONG word. I damn near had to beg and get on my hands and knees to join the union 6 yrs. ago. Best thing that ever happened to me. Fuck off.I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #6 January 3, 2009 Quote While I hope what this opinion piece says is true, the reality is that we don't know how big the wave of "payback calls" will be on January 20th. The unions will redouble the effort, despite the fact that it likely won't get through the Senate, once Mr. Obama becomes President Obama. What bothers me most about these liberal policies that will find new footing in a few weeks is this: What will happen when these "GFIs" (Great F**king Ideas) come to fruition and they are subject to these erosions of freedom (and don't give me patriot act bullsh*t...no one here has lost their liberties in any direct fashion) that will result from things like not being able to vote a secret ballot, or eat certain foods (because now trans-fats are illegal in some areas), or buy certain cars...down the slope to what can/can't be said on news, radio, films, books, or TV. It stifles the imagination... Get on an airplane lately? Fuck. Used to be able to go up in the plane at SSC and jump while the shuttle took off. Observer rides at DZ's. Forget it. TSA. Stolen a bunch of my shit. You REALLY like the way this is going? I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #7 January 3, 2009 Quote Get on an airplane lately? Fuck. Used to be able to go up in the plane at SSC and jump while the shuttle took off. Observer rides at DZ's. Forget it. TSA. Stolen a bunch of my shit. You REALLY like the way this is going? At least you make the choice to go the airport. There are plenty of DZs that still allow observer rides... You really want people to look over your shoulder when you vote? You really want someone to tell you what you can or cannot eat? You really want someone to tell you what you can or cannot drive? You really want someone to tell you how much money they're going to take from you, under the pretense of representing your interests, yet when the time comes to have to "strike" you're in the cold, better off on unemployment? You really want someone to tell you what you can or can't watch on TV, listen to on radio? You really want someone to tell you what doctors you can or can't see, what treatment you're allowed to receive, regardless of need? You really want someone to tell you when you can or can't work? ...ad infinitum... Bottom line is this, sacrifices we make to travel are nothing compared to what they could be. I agree TSA is not wholly effective, however, I travel with a lot of extra parts, things that ordinarily would raise an eyebrow, I get by because I call ahead. If in doubt, get out the phone and call. If that's too difficult for you, then maybe you do need someone to help with my list above...So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #8 January 3, 2009 Absolutely correct word. With a secret ballot, one may vote without fear of reprisal for the choice one makes. Card check eliminates the secret ballot, facilitating reprisal by either union or management. Unions, of course, don't have the balls to tell the public that's what they truly desire. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #9 January 3, 2009 Quote Absolutely correct word. With a secret ballot, one may vote without fear of reprisal for the choice one makes. Card check eliminates the secret ballot, facilitating reprisal by either union or management. Unions, of course, don't have the balls to tell the public that's what they truly desire. Unions used to have a purpose. They still do. That purpose is to ensure a safe working environment and a fair wage for those who have skills. Beyond that all they do is force employers to pay ridiculous wages for unskilled labor and cost the taxpayers billions each year for public works projects that are forced by regulation to pay union scale.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
