Skyrad 0 #1 December 27, 2008 After watching a documentary this morning http://jesusfamilytomb.com/movie_overview/about.html on the possible tomb of Jesus Christ (including his remains) I wondered how the rest of you view Jesus and why?When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #2 December 27, 2008 If he existed as as single person (as opposed to an amalgamation of multiple characters) - he could only have been mortal. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #3 December 27, 2008 The documentry was well worth watching, interesting stuff.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #4 December 27, 2008 You left out mentally ill rambler who caught the attention of a primitive and superstitious population who was susceptible to messianic figures due to their religious background combined with their occupied status. A distinct possibility I think. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Laszloimage 0 #5 December 27, 2008 a Liberal Jew Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaRusic 0 #6 December 27, 2008 i believe jesus walked on water....i just figure it was cold out The Altitude above you, the runway behind you, and the fuel not in the plane are totally worthless Dudeist Skydiver # 10 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #7 December 27, 2008 Hey, I've turned wine into water... (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
No_Phear 0 #8 December 27, 2008 I welcome the many 'comments' I may recive for this.... I 1000% believe Jesus Christ was indeed the Son of God, and was God made man. He lived a totally sinless life, and died for all of our sins. He rose again 3 days after his crucifiction, and acended to the father where he sits today at his right hand. This I know, as certainly as I know that each time I take a breath, I will take in oxygen, and live. I may sound like a fanatic, and if I do, so be it. Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior, and one day I will see him. The sad fact is that many do not believe, which is thier choice, but consider this: If Christians are wrong, then when we all die, it is just over, no harm, no foul. But if Christians are right, it's going to be awful hot for unbelievers. Everybody will live forever, just some will live in one place, and some in the other. Tact is not my specialty..... Dirty Sanchez #453 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaRusic 0 #9 December 27, 2008 what about if some other religion is right? and you shouldnt get any 'comments' on what you have said, you are free to worship whom/whatever you want, the bonus for living in a free country The Altitude above you, the runway behind you, and the fuel not in the plane are totally worthless Dudeist Skydiver # 10 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #10 December 27, 2008 QuoteI welcome the many 'comments' I may recive for this.... I 1000% believe.... that while I'm not sure about Jesus... Brian 's Not The Messiah... He's A Very Naughty Boy! Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #11 December 28, 2008 He was an Hispanic bowler with a rap sheet. "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maadmax 0 #12 December 28, 2008 Those of us who have the spiritual awareness to hear His voice, have no doubt who He is. And we thank God for Him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuFantasma 0 #13 December 28, 2008 We can't trust a government report published two hours ago.... We can't trust Barack Obama's birth certificate, we are not sure about September 11th's Commission report, we are not sure about JFK's Commission report... Ok, let me make sense out of a guy who walks on water, revives the dead and hangs around with another 11 guys int he dessert .... Yes, I am Catholic (with a Capital C)Y yo, pa' vivir con miedo, prefiero morir sonriendo, con el recuerdo vivo". - Ruben Blades, "Adan Garcia" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #14 December 28, 2008 Quote You left out mentally ill rambler Here are some of the metally ill ramblings:"Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another." "If you love only those who love you, what good is that? Even scoundrels do that much." "Whatever measure you use to give- large or small- will be used to measure what is given back to you." "I tell you the truth, this poor widow has put more into the treasury than all the others. They all gave out of their wealth; but she, out of her poverty, put in everything- all she had to live on." "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you" "If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more shall your Father who is in heaven give what is good to those who ask Him! "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you." "there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents, than over ninety-nine righteous persons who need no repentance." "heaven will be happier over one lost sinner who returns to God than over ninety-nine others who haven't strayed away!" "The Kingdom of God isn't ushered in with visible signs. You won't be able to say, 'It has begun here in this place or there in that part of the country.' For the Kingdom of God is within you." "Why does this generation ask for a miraculous sign? I tell you the truth, no sign will be given to it." Quote ....who caught the attention of a primitive and superstitious population who was susceptible to messianic figures due to their religious background combined with their occupied status. They must have also of thought Jesus to be a mentally ill rambler....and then killed him for it.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #15 December 28, 2008 He was a person in whom our highest ideals and values somehow emanate. What is opaque in most of us, in him was transparent. So love and power and courage and all the highest human values were expressed in him. To that extent , he was the expression of God in a way that almost nobody else has ever really been. But I think the idea of him being God was superimposed later and that's not what I believe. It's too simplistic. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #16 December 28, 2008 Quote But I think the idea of him being God was superimposed later and that's not what I believe. I don't believe that either...They killed him ultimatetly because He equated himself to God. The Jews had no "legal" reason to kill him until He committed this "blasphemy."Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #17 December 28, 2008 QuoteBut if Christians are right, it's going to be awful hot for unbelievers. Everybody will live forever, just some will live in one place, and some in the other. So the +/- 66% of the world's population who is not Christian goes to Hell. Thanks for clearing that up for us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #18 December 28, 2008 So all those people that died before or after JC and never heard of him, let alone believed the myths are doomed - that's so much bollocks (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
No_Phear 0 #19 December 28, 2008 Quote So all those people that died before or after JC and never heard of him, let alone believed the myths are doomed - that's so much bollocks Not true, study the bible and you will understand.... I don't have time to fully explain it. Tact is not my specialty..... Dirty Sanchez #453 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #20 December 28, 2008 Quote Quote So all those people that died before or after JC and never heard of him, let alone believed the myths are doomed - that's so much bollocks Not true, study the bible and you will understand.... I don't have time to fully explain it. There's very little explanation required: those that don't believe in the divinity of Jesus Christ go to Hell. Simple. Straightforward. Easy to put on a t-shirt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #21 December 28, 2008 Well, I'm sure that no explanation would be worth the time to read anyway. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #22 December 28, 2008 QuoteIf Christians are wrong, then when we all die, it is just over, no harm, no foul. But if Christians are right, it's going to be awful hot for unbelievers. Whatever, I don't want to worship a God that would send good people to a bad place because of trivial things ... if that means I'm going to a bad place, so be it."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #23 December 28, 2008 I'll bring the Marshmallows.. you bring the sausages - sure is going to full of fun people in that other place without the sanctimonious pricks (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #24 December 28, 2008 QuoteQuoteBut if Christians are right, it's going to be awful hot for unbelievers. Everybody will live forever, just some will live in one place, and some in the other. So the +/- 66% of the world's population who is not Christian goes to Hell. Thanks for clearing that up for us. No, I think the protestants go there too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #25 December 28, 2008 QuoteAfter watching a documentary this morning http://jesusfamilytomb.com/movie_overview/about.html on the possible tomb of Jesus Christ (including his remains) ... Thanks for the link. Looks like an intellectually provocative documentary. I have to acknowledge that filmmaker’s assertions w/r/t the purported/alleged James ossuary caused a little skepticism. Skepticism not necessarily dismissal of validity in his underlying arguments or of the value of the questions he is asking. He’s correct that at the time the documentary was film the literal jury (in the trial of the antiques dealer) was still hearing the case. As far as I am aware, that the *inscription and connection to James the Just/first Bishop of Jerusalem* on the ossuary (not the burial box itself) has been shown to be, with little remaining doubt, a fake or hoax. Ancient Biblical artifacts is beyond my area of expertise -- so I'm not comfortable making an assertion on the merits of the arguments - my skeptics radar is piqued. Find it interesting nonetheless. Wiki summary of the James Ossuary case, mentioning (I think) the documentary you cited. And the James ossuary case doesn’t obviate the underlying arguments. VR/Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
