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QuoteQuoteMy 'baseless assertion' is neither here nor there! The issue is your closed mind in regards to God,
Which you have been entirely unable to demonstrate. If I was ignoring any evidence that God existed, then I'd be closed minded. But you've ben unable to give any examples of actual evidence that I'm ignoring, so your claim is baseless.
Again, further demonstration of your closed mind!! You've already claimed you'd need such evidence presented to you - as if.
Why are you requiring me to provide the evidence? Why must someone present it to you? Are you special?
You've a closed mind in regard to God. It isn't about what you ignore - it's about you being unreceptive.
QuoteFurther, have you any evidence God doesn't exist?
I've got no evidence that pixie dust and magical amulets don't exist. I've got no evidence that merlin wasn't real, or that Leprechauns and Goblins aren't living in the bottom of my garden, and I've got no evidence that there isn't a teapot in the Oort cloud. Is it closed minded of me to give no credence to the idea of those things existing either? Course it's bloody not.
Here we go again - back to the land of the ridiculous. Isn't it amazing billions of people believe in such ridiculous notions! Lucky we've yourself here who know's all the answers, despite not having any evidence yourself....
QuoteI've said lots of other things too on this matter - don't these also apply, or are you simply choosing what's most suitable for the point you wish to make?
Yo've said before that it is unnacceptable for there to be no afterlife, and you've said in this thread, on this page that this leads you to think that there is a God. What else have you written that gives a reason for believing that is noy based on emtion, and that doesn't contradict the above?
QuoteDeath being simply the end is unacceptable. I know death isn't the end though.
Well there you go then. You "know" that death isn't the end. No evidence, no reason, no nothing. But you "know." And you have the fucking cheek to accuse me of being closed minded?
Sometimes I wonder how you can get your arguments so twisted up without noticing, or indeed doing it on purpose!
Why do you get so emotional on this subject mate? I've only stated you've a closed mind so obvious it isn't worth anyone's effort to provide you with the evidence. You know you've a closed mind.
Regarding my evidence which leads me to my assertions? Off the top of my head, I reckon I've around almost a dozen experiences. Not a single one can completely convince me of an afterlife or God. Combined? Then I'm fairly sure - perhaps saying 'I know' is too bold a statement.
Now, you don't need to know exactly what these experiences consist of - for a start, how would you know if I'm telling the truth or not?
Your closed mind makes it less likely for you to have such experiences. And nobodies going to come up and hand them to you on a plate.
'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'
jakee 1,594
QuoteAgain, further demonstration of your closed mind!! You've already claimed you'd need such evidence presented to you - as if.[Crazy] Why are you requiring me to provide the evidence? Why must someone present it to you? Are you special?
I have never seen or come across or heard of any evidence which suggests that God exists. Absolutely none. You say that evidence exists. Show me, or else you're talking baseless nonsense.
QuoteYou've a closed mind in regard to God. It isn't about what you ignore - it's about you being unreceptive.
Bull.
Shit.
QuoteHere we go again - back to the land of the ridiculous. Isn't it amazing billions of people believe in such ridiculous notions! Lucky we've yourself here who know's all the answers, despite not having any evidence yourself....
Like I said, Reality is not a democracy. Billions of people believing for no reason does not make a reason.
And once again - how many people throughout the history of mankind do you think have actually believed in Pixies and Goblins? A damn sight more than you give credit for. Why are you so closed minded to genuine beliefs of other people?
QuoteWhy do you get so emotional on this subject mate? I've only stated you've a closed mind so obvious it isn't worth anyone's effort to provide you with the evidence. You know you've a closed mind.
No, it's quite obvious to everyone what's happening here - you know you don't have any evidence, so you've looked around for an excuse to not have to present any, and you've come up with this one. You do this kind of thing a lot.
QuoteYour closed mind makes it less likely for you to have such experiences. And nobodies going to come up and hand them to you on a plate.
That's just a classic piece of rhetoric. Absolutely classic dodge. Do you know that's almost exactly what charlatan mediums and psychics always say when someone questions them during the performance? "It's not working because you're blocking the energy!"
Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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1. Please supply an detailed description of the anatomical location of the part of me that is not a chemical reaction, as I would like to chop it off.***
It is dorsal or rostral to the first cervical vertebra. Although I would advise against amputation, unless you are ready to meet your maker. That procedure would be contraindicated in all cases apart from capital punishment.
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2. please explain why I am self aware and other primates are not. I think it's pretty obvious that most primates are self aware. If they are, do they go to heaven? or do they just go straight to hell because they commit sins like FORNICATION (my new favourite activity) without regret?***
I did not say that humans have a monopoly on the life force. We do seem to have been given a unique sensory awareness of good and evil. And no one goes to hell for committing sins. Christ removed the penalty for sin, once and for all. If you want to spend eternity with God, you must become one with God. Sin is just an outward manifestation of evil.
Evil must be cleansed from the mind if you wish to see God. When you are ready, Christ is the way.
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It is dorsal or rostral to the first cervical vertebra. Although I would advise against amputation, unless you are ready to meet your maker. That procedure would be contraindicated in all cases apart from capital punishment.
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2. please explain why I am self aware and other primates are not. I think it's pretty obvious that most primates are self aware. If they are, do they go to heaven? or do they just go straight to hell because they commit sins like FORNICATION (my new favourite activity) without regret?***
I did not say that humans have a monopoly on the life force. We do seem to have been given a unique sensory awareness of good and evil. And no one goes to hell for committing sins. Christ removed the penalty for sin, once and for all. If you want to spend eternity with God, you must become one with God. Sin is just an outward manifestation of evil.
Evil must be cleansed from the mind if you wish to see God. When you are ready, Christ is the way.
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wolfriverjoe 1,523
QuotePoppycock!
Balderdash!
Note: not entering the argument, just adding a negative declaration to the list.
Edit to add: "We used to look up at the stars and wonder 'was they made or did they just happen?'"
Huck Finn by Mark Twain (from memory so feel free to correct it)
"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy
"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo
"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo
QuoteQuoteAgain, further demonstration of your closed mind!! You've already claimed you'd need such evidence presented to you - as if.[Crazy] Why are you requiring me to provide the evidence? Why must someone present it to you? Are you special?
I have never seen or come across or heard of any evidence which suggests that God exists. Absolutely none. You say that evidence exists. Show me, or else you're talking baseless nonsense.
I keep telling you; it isn't about me, or what I believe. I agree that's baseless. Refer back to the top paragraph.
QuoteYou've a closed mind in regard to God. It isn't about what you ignore - it's about you being unreceptive.
Bull.
Shit.
Prove it then.
QuoteHere we go again - back to the land of the ridiculous. Isn't it amazing billions of people believe in such ridiculous notions! Lucky we've yourself here who know's all the answers, despite not having any evidence yourself....
Like I said, Reality is not a democracy. Billions of people believing for no reason does not make a reason.
And once again - how many people throughout the history of mankind do you think have actually believed in Pixies and Goblins? A damn sight more than you give credit for. Why are you so closed minded to genuine beliefs of other people?
Hilarious!
QuoteWhy do you get so emotional on this subject mate? I've only stated you've a closed mind so obvious it isn't worth anyone's effort to provide you with the evidence. You know you've a closed mind.
No, it's quite obvious to everyone what's happening here - you know you don't have any evidence, so you've looked around for an excuse to not have to present any, and you've come up with this one. You do this kind of thing a lot.
You should be on the telly mate. I keep telling you! My evidence has nothing to do with you having a closed mind in regards to God.
QuoteYour closed mind makes it less likely for you to have such experiences. And nobodies going to come up and hand them to you on a plate.
That's just a classic piece of rhetoric. Absolutely classic dodge. Do you know that's almost exactly what charlatan mediums and psychics always say when someone questions them during the performance? "It's not working because you're blocking the energy!"
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What on earth has that got to do with you having a closed mind mate?
'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'
jakee 1,594
QuoteI keep telling you; it isn't about me, or what I believe. I agree that's baseless. Refer back to the top paragraph.QuoteI have never seen or come across or heard of any evidence which suggests that God exists. Absolutely none. You say that evidence exists. Show me, or else you're talking baseless nonsense.
That's where you've got everything arse about face. It is not closed minded to give no credence to a story which has absolutely no basis in logic or evidence. If it was, then you'd be closed minded for not believing in the Pixies, or Santa or even the FSM or any bloody stupid story I could make up right now and tell you.
This is because there is a difference between being closed minded and being gullible.
QuoteHilarious!QuoteLike I said, Reality is not a democracy. Billions of people believing for no reason does not make a reason.
And once again - how many people throughout the history of mankind do you think have actually believed in Pixies and Goblins? A damn sight more than you give credit for. Why are you so closed minded to genuine beliefs of other people?
Simply stating it doesn't make it so. You have to come up with a reason that you're not painfully wrong on this one. (Although I know that you can't, so I can understand why you'd attempt to dismiss the argument like that)
QuoteWhat on earth has that got to do with you having a closed mind mate?QuoteThat's just a classic piece of rhetoric. Absolutely classic dodge. Do you know that's almost exactly what charlatan mediums and psychics always say when someone questions them during the performance? "It's not working because you're blocking the energy!"
Because what you're saying about why I don't see imaginary evidence of your imaginary deity because I have a closed mind is exactly the same reason that charlatans, fakes and frauds give in "seances" and "readings" when someone questions their bullshit.
Interesting, uh, 'coincidence' don't you think?
Do you want to have an ideagasm?
QuoteQuoteI keep telling you; it isn't about me, or what I believe. I agree that's baseless. Refer back to the top paragraph.QuoteI have never seen or come across or heard of any evidence which suggests that God exists. Absolutely none. You say that evidence exists. Show me, or else you're talking baseless nonsense.
That's where you've got everything arse about face. It is not closed minded to give no credence to a story which has absolutely no basis in logic or evidence. If it was, then you'd be closed minded for not believing in the Pixies, or Santa or even the FSM or any bloody stupid story I could make up right now and tell you.
This is because there is a difference between being closed minded and being gullible.
Really? So what are you; closed minded or gullible?
QuoteHilarious!QuoteLike I said, Reality is not a democracy. Billions of people believing for no reason does not make a reason.
And once again - how many people throughout the history of mankind do you think have actually believed in Pixies and Goblins? A damn sight more than you give credit for. Why are you so closed minded to genuine beliefs of other people?
Simply stating it doesn't make it so. You have to come up with a reason that you're not painfully wrong on this one. (Although I know that you can't, so I can understand why you'd attempt to dismiss the argument like that)
This is great!
Your attempts of reversing my assertion of you back to me genuinely make me laugh. You claim I'm closed minded to others beliefs? Sorry Jakee, you're a classic example of a closed mind in this regard. And you've the arrogance to believe you have all the answers, whilst taking gleeful delight belittling others who don't believe what you do!
QuoteWhat on earth has that got to do with you having a closed mind mate?QuoteThat's just a classic piece of rhetoric. Absolutely classic dodge. Do you know that's almost exactly what charlatan mediums and psychics always say when someone questions them during the performance? "It's not working because you're blocking the energy!"
Because what you're saying about why I don't see imaginary evidence of your imaginary deity because I have a closed mind is exactly the same reason that charlatans, fakes and frauds give in "seances" and "readings" when someone questions their bullshit.
Interesting, uh, 'coincidence' don't you think?
Interesting indeed! How many seances and readings have you attended?
'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'
jakee 1,594
QuoteReally? So what are you; closed minded or gullible?
Bollocks!
There is a difference between being open minded and being gullible.
QuoteYou claim I'm closed minded to others beliefs?
If we accept your standards, then yes you are. Are you open to the idea that Pixies and Goblins and deepspace teapots exist? Are you open to the idea of any and all made up stories if you don't have solid evidence that they are not true?
Being open minded doesn't mean that you have to accept the claims of any bullshit artist that comes your way.
Do you want to have an ideagasm?
deibido 0
jakee?
you do realize that this reads like you trying to have a conversation with a chatbot, right?
I mean if you are enjoying it please continue, but it is a bit painful to watch.
you do realize that this reads like you trying to have a conversation with a chatbot, right?
I mean if you are enjoying it please continue, but it is a bit painful to watch.
"User assumes all risk"
QuoteQuoteReally? So what are you; closed minded or gullible?
Bollocks!
There is a difference between being open minded and being gullible.
QuoteYou claim I'm closed minded to others beliefs?
If we accept your standards, then yes you are. Are you open to the idea that Pixies and Goblins and deepspace teapots exist? Are you open to the idea of any and all made up stories if you don't have solid evidence that they are not true?
Wow. Where's your solid evidence there isn't an afterlife or God then?
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QuoteBeing open minded doesn't mean that you have to accept the claims of any bullshit artist that comes your way.
What would you know of being open minded!
So, are you going to let us know how many seances you've attended?
'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'
Quotejakee?
you do realize that this reads like you trying to have a conversation with a chatbot, right?
I mean if you are enjoying it please continue, but it is a bit painful to watch.
Well why not piss off and not fuckin' watch it then?
'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'
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jakee 1,594
QuoteWow. Where's your solid evidence there isn't an afterlife or God then?
I don't need any, that's what I've been telling you all a-fucking-long.
But, if we did accept your standards (which we wont, 'cos they're stupid) then you'd be just as closed minded as me.
QuoteQuoteBeing open minded doesn't mean that you have to accept the claims of any bullshit artist that comes your way.
What would you know of being open minded!
I know what it means, so I've got you beat already.
QuoteSo, are you going to let us know how many seances you've attended?
None. Why?
Do you want to have an ideagasm?
who is closed minded, the skeptic or the true believer?
http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4134
http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4134
http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4134
'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'
'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'
QuoteBut, if we did accept your standards (which we wont, 'cos they're stupid) then you'd be just as closed minded as me.
How? I'm open to the possibility of either; admittedly more towards one side than the other.
You're completely towards one side, closed to the possibilities of the other.
You have no evidence there isn't an afterlife, and yet you don't require any; as you know there isn't an afterlife. Yeah, sounds quite open minded.
'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'
well, to put it bluntly...we were all to go to hell for not being perfect...we are basically debauched product. So I guess we're not really that special after all....but then Jebus came along.
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