kallend 2,146 #51 December 28, 2008 You can hit the "Search" button as easily as I can. It's not MY job to do YOUR research for you. I have previously posted my position.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #52 December 28, 2008 Quote You can hit the "Search" button as easily as I can. It's not MY job to do YOUR research for you. I have previously posted my position. It is unrealistic and ridiculous for you to expect everyone to read all 30,000, or even 1000, of your posts to learn what your position is on a given subject. BTW, it is your job to perform the duties that your position at your college require. I am pretty sure those duties don't include hundreds of hours of posting on a skydiving forum. So any argument you may put up about not doing something because it isn't your job is also ridiculous. You do realize the time you spent arguing about this is probably much more than if you had just answered my question? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #53 December 28, 2008 Quote Quote You can hit the "Search" button as easily as I can. It's not MY job to do YOUR research for you. I have previously posted my position. It is unrealistic and ridiculous for you to expect everyone to read all 30,000, or even 1000, of your posts to learn what your position is on a given subject. BTW, it is your job to perform the duties that your position at your college require. I am pretty sure those duties don't include hundreds of hours of posting on a skydiving forum. So any argument you may put up about not doing something because it isn't your job is also ridiculous. You do realize the time you spent arguing about this is probably much more than if you had just answered my question? SEARCH.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #54 December 28, 2008 Quote Quote Quote You can hit the "Search" button as easily as I can. It's not MY job to do YOUR research for you. I have previously posted my position. It is unrealistic and ridiculous for you to expect everyone to read all 30,000, or even 1000, of your posts to learn what your position is on a given subject. BTW, it is your job to perform the duties that your position at your college require. I am pretty sure those duties don't include hundreds of hours of posting on a skydiving forum. So any argument you may put up about not doing something because it isn't your job is also ridiculous. You do realize the time you spent arguing about this is probably much more than if you had just answered my question? SEARCH. What's the matter, Kallend,...does the truth hurt so much you can't give more than a one word answer? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #55 December 28, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote You can hit the "Search" button as easily as I can. It's not MY job to do YOUR research for you. I have previously posted my position. It is unrealistic and ridiculous for you to expect everyone to read all 30,000, or even 1000, of your posts to learn what your position is on a given subject. BTW, it is your job to perform the duties that your position at your college require. I am pretty sure those duties don't include hundreds of hours of posting on a skydiving forum. So any argument you may put up about not doing something because it isn't your job is also ridiculous. You do realize the time you spent arguing about this is probably much more than if you had just answered my question? SEARCH. What's the matter, Kallend,...does the truth hurt so much you can't give more than a one word answer? Don't be lazy.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #56 December 28, 2008 Quote Quote I've always been curious why it is when people get killed with guns the anti-gun groups always say we need more gun laws instead of more murder laws. Can you provide a cite for that factoid? Or did you just make it up? Quote State and Federal Legislation The Brady Campaign works at the Federal, State and local level to enact sensible gun laws. We have divided this area up between federal and state legislation. Click here for state legislation. http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/faqs/?page=awb http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/faqs/?page=cap http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/faqs/?page=second http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/faqs/?page=licreg http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/faqs/?page=sns Any questions?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #57 December 28, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote You can hit the "Search" button as easily as I can. It's not MY job to do YOUR research for you. I have previously posted my position. It is unrealistic and ridiculous for you to expect everyone to read all 30,000, or even 1000, of your posts to learn what your position is on a given subject. BTW, it is your job to perform the duties that your position at your college require. I am pretty sure those duties don't include hundreds of hours of posting on a skydiving forum. So any argument you may put up about not doing something because it isn't your job is also ridiculous. You do realize the time you spent arguing about this is probably much more than if you had just answered my question? SEARCH. What's the matter, Kallend,...does the truth hurt so much you can't give more than a one word answer? Don't be lazy. That has got to be the most hypocritical statement I have seen in this forum yet! But, hey,...I will give you credit for working your way up to a three-word reply. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #58 December 28, 2008 Quote Quote Quote I've always been curious why it is when people get killed with guns the anti-gun groups always say we need more gun laws instead of more murder laws. Can you provide a cite for that factoid? Or did you just make it up? Quote State and Federal Legislation The Brady Campaign works at the Federal, State and local level to enact sensible gun laws. We have divided this area up between federal and state legislation. Click here for state legislation. http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/faqs/?page=awb http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/faqs/?page=cap http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/faqs/?page=second http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/faqs/?page=licreg http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/faqs/?page=sns Any questions? Yes, you have to compare with calls for "more murder laws", didn't you read the thread? What additional "murder" laws would you recommend?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #59 December 28, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote I've always been curious why it is when people get killed with guns the anti-gun groups always say we need more gun laws instead of more murder laws. Can you provide a cite for that factoid? Or did you just make it up? Quote State and Federal Legislation The Brady Campaign works at the Federal, State and local level to enact sensible gun laws. We have divided this area up between federal and state legislation. Click here for state legislation. http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/faqs/?page=awb http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/faqs/?page=cap http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/faqs/?page=second http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/faqs/?page=licreg http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/faqs/?page=sns Any questions? Yes, you have to compare with calls for "more murder laws", didn't you read the thread? What additional "murder" laws would you recommend? That wasn't the question asked - you asked for proof that the anti-gun groups call for gun laws and not murder laws. I provided the proof.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #60 December 28, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote I've always been curious why it is when people get killed with guns the anti-gun groups always say we need more gun laws instead of more murder laws. Can you provide a cite for that factoid? Or did you just make it up? Quote State and Federal Legislation The Brady Campaign works at the Federal, State and local level to enact sensible gun laws. We have divided this area up between federal and state legislation. Click here for state legislation. http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/faqs/?page=awb http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/faqs/?page=cap http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/faqs/?page=second http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/faqs/?page=licreg http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/faqs/?page=sns Any questions? Yes, you have to compare with calls for "more murder laws", didn't you read the thread? What additional "murder" laws would you recommend? That wasn't the question asked - you asked for proof that the anti-gun groups call for gun laws and not murder laws. I provided the proof. No you didn't. What part of "ALWAYS" don;t you understand? "the anti-gun groups always say... " Still awaiting your recommendations on "more murder laws".... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #61 December 28, 2008 QuoteNo you didn't. What part of "ALWAYS" don;t you understand? "the anti-gun groups always say... " Still awaiting your recommendations on "more murder laws". Reading comprehension fail - the quote was: Quotethe anti-gun groups always say we need more gun laws instead of more murder laws Your reply: ***Can you provide a cite for that factoid? Or did you just make it up?*** I showed proof of the Brady Campaign calling for GUN laws rather than MURDER laws, thereby answering your question.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #62 December 28, 2008 Quote You can hit the "Search" button as easily as I can. It's not MY job to do YOUR research for you. I have previously posted my position. When doing research, as you well know, it is always best to get the information from as close to the source as possible and to get the most up to date information possible. Why should I dig through hundreds of posts of yours trying to find a tidbit of information when I can ask you for that information? Why would I search for information that may not reflect your latest opinion when I can ask you right here?HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #63 December 28, 2008 Quote ....don't assume everyone has read everything you ever posted... Who the fuck would want to? "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #64 December 28, 2008 Quote To prevent this: http://news.smh.com.au/world/man-shot-for-talking-during-pitt-film-20081228-7624.html Beware of talking too loud in a cinema, your neighbor might not be amused ..... Jeez, what a country. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #65 December 28, 2008 Quote Quote You can hit the "Search" button as easily as I can. It's not MY job to do YOUR research for you. I have previously posted my position. It is unrealistic and ridiculous for you to expect everyone to read all 30,000, or even 1000, of your posts to learn what your position is on a given subject. BTW, it is your job to perform the duties that your position at your college require. I am pretty sure those duties don't include hundreds of hours of posting on a skydiving forum. So any argument you may put up about not doing something because it isn't your job is also ridiculous. You do realize the time you spent arguing about this is probably much more than if you had just answered my question? Ok, let me simplify this for you, save you lots of time. Kallend spends far more time replying about what he did not say than about the actual substance. So when he's caught in a bind, he steers the thread to a silly conversation about what he said/didn't say/meant/didn't mean. Everyone's time here is recreational, and no one 'owes' you or anyone else anything at all. He's entitled to play his games, and you're entitled to join or ignore them. You really don't want to waste your's reading his past. If it's not in the current thread, ignore it. If you cite from elsewhere, you'll have to debate with him what his words actually meant. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #66 December 28, 2008 QuoteBeware of talking too loud in a cinema, your neighbor might not be amused ..... Jeez, what a country. Why is it that you're always making derogatory comments about entire countries, based upon the actions of single individuals? Do you not understand that deranged madmen neither represent, nor properly characterize, the general population of an entire nation? I would think that someone from Germany would be especially sensitive to this fact, given your country's recent history. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #67 December 28, 2008 Quote ... your given your country's recent history. Recent?? That was long before I was born, my dear. (JFYI: Being a forty something, I've seen a lot on earth, ya know travelling a lot, living in other parts of mother earth for years - that opens the eyes! You should give it a try, one day.) Do you, OTOH, still feel guiltiness for nearly eradicating the red skins in your country? The actual Americans? dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #68 December 28, 2008 QuoteGood thing he didn't kill anybody with that gun! at least from what they can tell so far. From the 911 tapes: Caller: He's shooting. He's shooting everyone! I need someone to come out so they can help my daughter. She's been bleeding. She got shot on the side of the face. Dispatcher: Do you know who it is? Caller: I don't know who this person is. Dispatcher: The guy that was shooting. Caller: I think its. We don't know. I couldn't recognize him. Dispatcher: What do you think his name is? Caller: His name is Bruce Pardo. Dispatcher: OK. And who is he to you guys? Caller: He is, he was, he's my ex-brother-in-law. He's still shooting.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #69 December 28, 2008 QuoteQuoteNo you didn't. What part of "ALWAYS" don;t you understand? "the anti-gun groups always say... " Still awaiting your recommendations on "more murder laws". Reading comprehension fail - the quote was: Quotethe anti-gun groups always say we need more gun laws instead of more murder laws Your reply: ***Can you provide a cite for that factoid? Or did you just make it up?*** I showed proof of the Brady Campaign calling for GUN laws rather than MURDER laws, thereby answering your question. Suggest you look up the definition of "proof". Citing a few cherry picked examples from one group provides no proof at all of what ALWAYS happens from all groups. Here- to help you out since it's the holiday season, is the sentence I objected to (emphasis mine): "the anti-gun groups always say... " As I wrote previously, maybe you should read what you're responding to before hitting "Post" with a kneejerk reaction. Now, what additional "murder laws" would you recommend?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #70 December 28, 2008 With the condition of the bodies, it's going to be hard to confirm they died from the bullets or the fire. The girl survived. It would seem rather probable that they died from gun shots. It's also apparent none had the means to defend themselves. Least clear is how many would have died just from the incendiary device. Given the perp hurt himself with it, I think the people would have fared poorly - perhaps better than they did in the event, but not well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #71 December 28, 2008 QuoteRecent?? That was long before I was born, my dear. "Recent" is a relative term, and I specifically referred to "recent history". In historical terms, 60 or so years is fairly recent. Not everything is about you. Quote(JFYI: Being a forty something, I've seen a lot on earth, ya know travelling a lot, living in other parts of mother earth for years - that opens the eyes! You should give it a try, one day.) That's another problem you have - making assumptions about other people for whom you know nothing about, and taking on an air of superiority and arrogance based upon those false assumptions. QuoteDo you, OTOH, still feel guiltiness for nearly eradicating the red skins in your country? I don't go around making widespread derogatory comments about entire populations, based upon the actions of single individuals. So that's an irrelevant comment. If you are going to characterize America as full of crazy people because a few nuts went on a killing spree, then you forfeit any right to complain if someone accuses all Germans of being Nazis. That's the equivalent of what you're doing. But I don't expect you to "get" any of this... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #72 December 29, 2008 Quote Quote Quote You can hit the "Search" button as easily as I can. It's not MY job to do YOUR research for you. I have previously posted my position. It is unrealistic and ridiculous for you to expect everyone to read all 30,000, or even 1000, of your posts to learn what your position is on a given subject. BTW, it is your job to perform the duties that your position at your college require. I am pretty sure those duties don't include hundreds of hours of posting on a skydiving forum. So any argument you may put up about not doing something because it isn't your job is also ridiculous. You do realize the time you spent arguing about this is probably much more than if you had just answered my question? Ok, let me simplify this for you, save you lots of time. Kallend spends far more time replying about what he did not say than about the actual substance. So when he's caught in a bind, he steers the thread to a silly conversation about what he said/didn't say/meant/didn't mean. Everyone's time here is recreational, and no one 'owes' you or anyone else anything at all. He's entitled to play his games, and you're entitled to join or ignore them. You really don't want to waste your's reading his past. If it's not in the current thread, ignore it. If you cite from elsewhere, you'll have to debate with him what his words actually meant. Yeah, I'm starting to realize that. But it is still fun to see how much work he will do to avoid giving in and actually answer a simple question! HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #73 December 29, 2008 QuoteWhat part of "ALWAYS" don;t you understand? Perhaps the same part which you don't understand. Here are some recent quotes from you using that same expression:"My HDTV shows the same channels as it always did, regardless of the sticker price this week in Best Buy." "This was never about union responsibility, it is and always was about who is responsible for managing a corporation." "This is about WHO is responsible for managing a corporation, NOT about whether unions always make smart decisions." "It's always the same argument as well, what about the really important information that we need really quickly." "It's always good when experiment confirms theory" "Of course, there's always this risk." Before you throw stones at someone for using the word "always", you should first have your own house in order. Or maybe instead of creating stupid time-wasting arguments nitpicking over single words like this, you could instead recognize that many people, including yourself, commonly use that word in a figurative sense, rather than a literal one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #74 December 29, 2008 QuoteQuoteWhat part of "ALWAYS" don;t you understand? Perhaps the same part which you don't understand. Here are some recent quotes from you using that same expression:"My HDTV shows the same channels as it always did, regardless of the sticker price this week in Best Buy." "This was never about union responsibility, it is and always was about who is responsible for managing a corporation." "This is about WHO is responsible for managing a corporation, NOT about whether unions always make smart decisions." "It's always the same argument as well, what about the really important information that we need really quickly." "It's always good when experiment confirms theory" "Of course, there's always this risk." Before you throw stones at someone for using the word "always", you should first have your own house in order. Or maybe instead of creating stupid time-wasting arguments nitpicking over single words like this, you could instead recognize that many people, including yourself, commonly use that word in a figurative sense, rather than a literal one. I believe I can justify my claims about my own TV channels, content of threads on DZ.COM, the desirability of experiments agreeing with theory, etc. On the other hand, the claim made in THIS thread has not been validated at all. Just because you can use the "Search" function doesn't mean YOUR use of it makes any sense. Now, how about describing the "more murder laws" in that same post? You gun nuts have carefully avoided that topic despite repeated requests.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #75 December 29, 2008 Quote Quote Quote What part of "ALWAYS" don;t you understand? Perhaps the same part which you don't understand. Here are some recent quotes from you using that same expression:"My HDTV shows the same channels as it always did, regardless of the sticker price this week in Best Buy." "This was never about union responsibility, it is and always was about who is responsible for managing a corporation." "This is about WHO is responsible for managing a corporation, NOT about whether unions always make smart decisions." "It's always the same argument as well, what about the really important information that we need really quickly." "It's always good when experiment confirms theory" "Of course, there's always this risk." Before you throw stones at someone for using the word "always", you should first have your own house in order. Or maybe instead of creating stupid time-wasting arguments nitpicking over single words like this, you could instead recognize that many people, including yourself, commonly use that word in a figurative sense, rather than a literal one. I believe I can justify my claims about my own TV channels, content of threads on DZ.COM, the desirability of experiments agreeing with theory, etc. On the other hand, the claim made in THIS thread has not been validated at all. Just because you can use the "Search" function doesn't mean YOUR use of it makes any sense. Now, how about describing the "more murder laws" in that same post? You gun nuts have carefully avoided that topic despite repeated requests. Why should JohnRich answer your request for murder laws when you won't even answer my request for what gun control laws you would have? Keep wiggling, Kallend. Just keep wiggling. It's so very entertaining. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
