Where's the Money?

[Gawain 0]

So, for all that advocated the $850B bailout plan. You should know that SecTreas Paulson has burned through the first half of the TARP (total $700B, distributed in halves).

If you look, you can easily see where that money has gone, but once you reach that point, you can't really tell what the banks have done with the money.

This, despite that the government is now a significant shareholder in these banks.

So, where's the transparency? Where's the immortal Rep. Barney Frank and Sen. Dodd to "save" us and see what's happening.

F**k**g fiasco!

http://m.apnews.com/ap/db_8559/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=7RtXmSi2

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

[rushmc 23]

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So, for all that advocated the $850B bailout plan. You should know that SecTreas Paulson has burned through the first half of the TARP (total $700B, distributed in halves).

If you look, you can easily see where that money has gone, but once you reach that point, you can't really tell what the banks have done with the money.

This, despite that the government is now a significant shareholder in these banks.

So, where's the transparency? Where's the immortal Rep. Barney Frank and Sen. Dodd to "save" us and see what's happening.

F**k**g fiasco!

http://m.apnews.com/ap/db_8559/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=7RtXmSi2

We get what we have coming when we expect those who are (a big) part of the problem are picked to provide the solution.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,230]

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So, for all that advocated the $850B bailout plan. You should know that SecTreas Paulson has burned through the first half of the TARP (total $700B, distributed in halves).

If you look, you can easily see where that money has gone, but once you reach that point, you can't really tell what the banks have done with the money.

This, despite that the government is now a significant shareholder in these banks.

So, where's the transparency? Where's the immortal Rep. Barney Frank and Sen. Dodd to "save" us and see what's happening.

F**k**g fiasco!

http://m.apnews.com/ap/db_8559/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=7RtXmSi2

Funny that you are quite happy that we wasted something like $1 TRILLION in Iraq, and our reward is that Iraqis (and much of the rest of the world) hate us for it, but you whine and whine about spending money to assist Americans.

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[Butters 0]

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... and our reward is that Iraqis (and much of the rest of the world) hate us for it ...

Really? I recently had a conversation with a Marine who is between tours who stated the opposite ...

"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

[normiss 917]

quickest straw man post I've seen in some time...

[kallend 2,230]

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... and our reward is that Iraqis (and much of the rest of the world) hate us for it ...

Really? I recently had a conversation with a Marine who is between tours who stated the opposite ...

I understand there's a very strong level of support for the shoe thrower. Maybe your marine selectively talked to people who liked him.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[airdvr 210]

Some things never change.

It is amazing the degree of arrogance these institutions are showing now that they got our money.

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[Butters 0]

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... and our reward is that Iraqis (and much of the rest of the world) hate us for it ...

Really? I recently had a conversation with a Marine who is between tours who stated the opposite ...

I understand there's a very strong level of support for the shoe thrower. Maybe your marine selectively talked to people who liked him.

Did you have a conversation with the shoe thrower or any of the supporters? I doubt it ...

"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

[riddler 0]

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Maybe your marine selectively talked to people who liked him.

If a trooper from a foreign invader is walking around my neighborhood with a machine gun, I'm sure as hell not going to throw a shoe at him. If he asks, I'll tell him how great his country is for "liberating" us - I'll even tell him his God is the one true God.

Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD

[billvon 3,173]

>It is amazing the degree of arrogance these institutions are showing now
>that they got our money.

Are you really amazed? Doesn't surprise me one bit. That's pretty much what they do.

[Butters 0]

Some of the money is here.

"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

[kallend 2,230]

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quickest straw man post I've seen in some time...

Do you know the definition of straw man?

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[kallend 2,230]

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Maybe your marine selectively talked to people who liked him.

If a trooper from a foreign invader is walking around my neighborhood with a machine gun, I'm sure as hell not going to throw a shoe at him. If he asks, I'll tell him how great his country is for "liberating" us - I'll even tell him his God is the one true God.

I think that hits the nail on the head.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[TrophyHusband 0]

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Funny that you are quite happy that we wasted something like $1 TRILLION in Iraq, and our reward is that Iraqis (and much of the rest of the world) hate us for it, but you whine and whine about spending money to assist Americans.

thank you for enlightening me, you've just changed my opinion. you're absolutely right. since all that money was wasted in iraq, i really have no problem with more being wasted here. and thank you also for trying to switch the subject to iraq. i wish you could switch all threads to the subject of iraq or george bush. i really hate it when a thread stays on topic.

"Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama
www.kjandmegan.com

[kallend 2,230]

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Funny that you are quite happy that we wasted something like $1 TRILLION in Iraq, and our reward is that Iraqis (and much of the rest of the world) hate us for it, but you whine and whine about spending money to assist Americans.

thank you for enlightening me, you've just changed my opinion. you're absolutely right. since all that money was wasted in iraq, i really have no problem with more being wasted here. and thank you also for trying to switch the subject to iraq. i wish you could switch all threads to the subject of iraq or george bush. i really hate it when a thread stays on topic.

A $trillion here, a $trillion there, soon we're talking about real money.

Of course it's relevant. Whining about $18 Billion for Detroit and giving a pass to $1 Trillion to Iraq is hypocrisy at its best.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[livendive 8]

With all the companies that were "reorganizing" so the could dip their hands in the coffers, I'm not the least bit surprised. People complain that it was lack of oversight that got us here, and now it's lack of oversight that turned a welfare program into a windfall.

Blues,
Dave

"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!"
(drink Mountain Dew)

[rushmc 23]

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With all the companies that were "reorganizing" so the could dip their hands in the coffers, I'm not the least bit surprised. People complain that it was lack of oversight that got us here, and now it's lack of oversight that turned a welfare program into a windfall.

Blues,
Dave

Seems to be a damn good incentive to fail huh....

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,230]

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With all the companies that were "reorganizing" so the could dip their hands in the coffers, I'm not the least bit surprised. People complain that it was lack of oversight that got us here, and now it's lack of oversight that turned a welfare program into a windfall.

Blues,
Dave

Seems to be a damn good incentive to fail huh....

Only if you're in a privileged business, like Wall Street.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[TrophyHusband 0]

if you want to discuss iraq, start your own fucking thread. if you want to call gawain a hypocrit, come out and do it. your arguement that no one can discuss anything because of iraq is complete bullshit.

"Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama
www.kjandmegan.com

[normiss 917]

So you need me to explain it to you again?
Your post was a clear definition of the term.
Thanks for finally spelling it correctly though.

[livendive 8]

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So you need me to explain it to you again?
Your post was a clear definition of the term.
Thanks for finally spelling it correctly though.

I don't think you completely understand what a straw man fallacy is, because Kallend didn't make one. He may, however, be guilty of the fallacy of ignoratio elenchi.

Blues,
Dave

"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!"
(drink Mountain Dew)

[kallend 2,230]

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So you need me to explain it to you again?
Your post was a clear definition of the term.
Thanks for finally spelling it correctly though.

I don't think you completely understand what a straw man fallacy is, because Kallend didn't make one. He may, however, be guilty of the fallacy of ignoratio elenchi.

Blues,
Dave

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[kallend 2,230]

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if you want to discuss iraq, start your own fucking thread. if you want to call gawain a hypocrit, come out and do it. your arguement that no one can discuss anything because of iraq is complete bullshit.

How can you possibly debate what is a waste of taxpayer money without having a benchmark?

The biggest waste of taxpayer money in the last 30 years is Iraq. That IS the defining benchmark.

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[Butters 0]

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The biggest waste of taxpayer money in the last 30 years is Iraq. That IS the defining benchmark.

That's your opinion ... I would consider the War on Drugs to be the biggest waste of taxpayer money in the last 30 years.

"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

[normiss 917]

his repeated attempts to create a cover for the topic at hand is viewed as a straw man - and fully agreed the latter of your comments....the majority of his posts are exactly that.