riddler 0 #1 December 21, 2008 So we could bring Christmas there: QuoteBAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- From a distance, it looks like an apparition: a huge multi-colored hot-air balloon floating in the Baghdad sky, bearing a large poster of Jesus Christ. Below it, an Iraqi flag. http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/12/21/iraq.christmas/index.html Ya know, since America is the new Roman empire, we could learn a thing or two from the Romans. After the Romans took over a new place, they didn't force their Gods down their new subjects throats. Instead, they just supplanted them with a different version that was kinda the same; Demeter became Ceres, Ares became Mars, etc. It made it easier for the new subjects to accept the new Gods. Maybe we could convert Muhammad to a new God that wears red pajamas and drives around in a winter sleigh pulled by reindeer?Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #2 December 21, 2008 Christianity was in Iraq before we invaded. Tariq Aziz is a Christian. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #3 December 21, 2008 You're right!! Christianity never existed in the middle east before our invasion!! So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #4 December 21, 2008 Gee and here I thought it was just a bunch of men with little dick's trying to be macho and pretend they were warriors....since they ran the last time a war rolled around When They Were Young and Weren't Soldiers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #5 December 22, 2008 QuoteYou're right!! Christianity never existed in the middle east before our invasion!! Crazy And white people (aka Vikings) weren't in North America before the Native Americans! That was sure a good excuse to go take over and convert those soul-less heathens to the one true God. I don't think religion was the rationale for going into Iraq. But somehow I think that Bush feels that he did something great by bringing Jesus back to those people over there that are worshiping a false prophet.Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #6 December 22, 2008 QuoteBut somehow I think that Bush feels that he did something great by bringing Jesus back to those people over there that are worshiping a false prophet. Missed a little something in your rush to blame it all on Bush, didn't you? QuoteWelcome to the first-ever public Christmas celebration in Baghdad, held Saturday and sponsored by the Iraqi Interior Ministry.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #7 December 22, 2008 QuoteWelcome to the first-ever public Christmas celebration in Baghdad, held Saturday and sponsored by the Iraqi Interior Ministry. A.K.A the US-sponsored puppet-government.Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallingOsh 0 #8 December 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteWelcome to the first-ever public Christmas celebration in Baghdad, held Saturday and sponsored by the Iraqi Interior Ministry. A.K.A the US-sponsored puppet-government. Now you're just throwing poop hoping some of it will stick. This thread is a worthless attempt to somehow blame Bush for a Christian act that you don't agree with. I think it's fair to say Iraq is far from being converted to a Christian state. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #9 December 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteWelcome to the first-ever public Christmas celebration in Baghdad, held Saturday and sponsored by the Iraqi Interior Ministry. A.K.A the US-sponsored puppet-government. I must've missed the troops with guns behind all those purple fingered Iraquis - maybe you can point them out to me.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #10 December 22, 2008 QuoteI must've missed the troops with guns behind all those purple fingered Iraquis - maybe you can point them out to me. If Iraq is a "true democracy", supported by the people, then American troops should be able to up and leave right now, right? I mean the country of Iraq couldn't possibly fall apart now if our 140,000 troops left tomorrow. Or are you one of those people that thinks we need a lengthy withdrawal to ensure a smooth "transition of power" ?Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #11 December 22, 2008 Funny - the real reason to invade is all the dancing harems ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #12 December 22, 2008 Quote I think it's fair to say Iraq is far from being converted to a Christian state. Yeah, the Romans didn't convert their subjects in a measly seven years, either. The Roman empire was around for over 1,000 years. After a few generations of occupation, the majority of their subjects were converted. And John McCain said he thought we should be in Iraq for 100 years "if necessary". If necessary for what, do you think?Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #13 December 22, 2008 When I first read your posting I thought it might be somewhat 'tongue-in-cheek'. Was it? Given that under Saddam Hussayn's regime Christians were a relatively protected/privileged minority (remember Tariq Aziz?) and given that the level of violence directed at the Christian minority has risen dramatically since 2003 in Iraq, the fact that there is/was able to be a public celebration of Christmas is a positive sign (postive for stabilty and security). Also given that Iraq's Constitution establishes Islam as the national religion of Iraq: Article 2: 1st — Islam is the official religion of the state and is a basic source of legislation: (a) No law can be passed that contradicts the undisputed rules of Islam. (b) No law can be passed that contradicts the principles of democracy. (c) No law can be passed that contradicts the rights and basic freedoms outlined in this constitution. 2nd — This constitution guarantees the Islamic identity of the majority of the Iraqi people and the full religious rights for all individuals and the freedom of creed and religious practices it's a demonstration of that 2nd part being not just de jure but also de facto, in at least one instance. There were also Hanukkah celebrations in Iraq. What significance does that have? VR/Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallingOsh 0 #14 December 22, 2008 QuoteQuote I think it's fair to say Iraq is far from being converted to a Christian state. Yeah, the Romans didn't convert their subjects in a measly seven years, either. The Roman empire was around for over 1,000 years. After a few generations of occupation, the majority of their subjects were converted. And John McCain said he thought we should be in Iraq for 100 years "if necessary". If necessary for what, do you think? We're not occupying for 1,000 years. We're not even occupying, by definition. Besides that, we won't be in country after 2011 as the SOFA currently stands. Nowhere in McCain's quote did he say "if necessary" and it was never implied, or even close to imlied, that we would remain there to convert anyone. He said.. Maybe a hundred. Make it one hundred. We’ve been in South Korea, we’ve been in Japan for sixty years. We’ve been in South Korea for fifty years or so. That’d be fine with me as long as Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed. Then it’s fine with me. I would hope it would be fine with you if we maintain a presence in a very volatile part of the world where Al Qaeda is training, recruiting, equipping and motivating people every single day. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #15 December 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteWelcome to the first-ever public Christmas celebration in Baghdad, held Saturday and sponsored by the Iraqi Interior Ministry. A.K.A the US-sponsored puppet-government. Now you're just throwing poop hoping some of it will stick. This thread is a worthless attempt to somehow blame Bush for a Christian act that you don't agree with. I think it's fair to say Iraq is far from being converted to a Christian state. Rubbish. The Maliki regime is a puppet, just like the Vichy French regime was a puppet and the Jaruzelski regime was a puppet. The concept of an independent government in a country under military occupation by a foreign power, whose troops do not answer to said government, is SIMPLY ABSURD.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallingOsh 0 #16 December 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWelcome to the first-ever public Christmas celebration in Baghdad, held Saturday and sponsored by the Iraqi Interior Ministry. A.K.A the US-sponsored puppet-government. Now you're just throwing poop hoping some of it will stick. This thread is a worthless attempt to somehow blame Bush for a Christian act that you don't agree with. I think it's fair to say Iraq is far from being converted to a Christian state. QuoteRubbish. The Maliki regime is a puppet, just like the Vichy French regime was a puppet and the Jaruzelski regime was a puppet. Ok. Feel free to start a new thread discussing the issue. As far as the OP and this threa, my comments stand. QuoteThe concept of an independent government in a country under military occupation by a foreign power, whose troops do not answer to said government, is SIMPLY ABSURD. So when the SOFA goes into effect and our troops take on a police roll under the Iraqi government... then what? Your claim is irrelevent? -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,148 #17 December 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWelcome to the first-ever public Christmas celebration in Baghdad, held Saturday and sponsored by the Iraqi Interior Ministry. A.K.A the US-sponsored puppet-government. Now you're just throwing poop hoping some of it will stick. This thread is a worthless attempt to somehow blame Bush for a Christian act that you don't agree with. I think it's fair to say Iraq is far from being converted to a Christian state. QuoteRubbish. The Maliki regime is a puppet, just like the Vichy French regime was a puppet and the Jaruzelski regime was a puppet. Ok. Feel free to start a new thread discussing the issue. As far as the OP and this threa, my comments stand. QuoteThe concept of an independent government in a country under military occupation by a foreign power, whose troops do not answer to said government, is SIMPLY ABSURD. So when the SOFA goes into effect and our troops take on a police roll under the Iraqi government... then what? Your claim is irrelevent? Now is now. What may come to pass in the future is NOT now.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #18 December 22, 2008 QuoteThe concept of an independent government in a country under military occupation by a foreign power, whose troops do not answer to said government, is SIMPLY ABSURD. ClickyMike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites livendive 8 #19 December 22, 2008 While I disagree with our actions in Iraq, I'm not naive enough to think our motivation was a modern Crusade. The REAL reason we invaded Iraq was an unsuccessfully resolved Oedipus complex. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,148 #20 December 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteThe concept of an independent government in a country under military occupation by a foreign power, whose troops do not answer to said government, is SIMPLY ABSURD. Clicky Irrelevant (as usual). I don't believe there was a Nazi storm trooper standing behind Petain either.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #21 December 22, 2008 QuoteWhile I disagree with our actions in Iraq, I'm not naive enough to think our motivation was a modern Crusade. The REAL reason we invaded Iraq was an unsuccessfully resolved Oedipus complex. Blues, Dave *rolls eyes* I guess Clinton's reasoning for *HIS* actions was because Saddam wouldn't let Bill into his rape cells to get a little, then.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites livendive 8 #22 December 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteWhile I disagree with our actions in Iraq, I'm not naive enough to think our motivation was a modern Crusade. The REAL reason we invaded Iraq was an unsuccessfully resolved Oedipus complex. Blues, Dave *rolls eyes* I guess Clinton's reasoning for *HIS* actions was because Saddam wouldn't let Bill into his rape cells to get a little, then. Clinton's objectives were the same as Bush Sr's...contain Saddam Hussein. Despite the success of his predecessors, Junior decided to spend a trillion dollars in the spilling of an awful lot of blood, for reasons yet unexplained. I suspect his motivation was at least in part based on a desire to "one up" his immediate predecessor and his dad. Whether or not he's been successful in that regard is a matter of opinion, and mine is that he's been a failure. Clinton and his dad were both better Presidents with better policies on Iraq. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites FallingOsh 0 #23 December 22, 2008 Quote Whether or not he's been successful in that regard is a matter of opinion, and mine is that he's been a failure. Clinton and his dad were both better Presidents with better policies on Iraq. Blues, Dave I guess that opinion would also depend upon whether you're a person sitting safely at home behind your computer or a Kurd living in Iraq. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life. 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kallend 2,148 #17 December 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWelcome to the first-ever public Christmas celebration in Baghdad, held Saturday and sponsored by the Iraqi Interior Ministry. A.K.A the US-sponsored puppet-government. Now you're just throwing poop hoping some of it will stick. This thread is a worthless attempt to somehow blame Bush for a Christian act that you don't agree with. I think it's fair to say Iraq is far from being converted to a Christian state. QuoteRubbish. The Maliki regime is a puppet, just like the Vichy French regime was a puppet and the Jaruzelski regime was a puppet. Ok. Feel free to start a new thread discussing the issue. As far as the OP and this threa, my comments stand. QuoteThe concept of an independent government in a country under military occupation by a foreign power, whose troops do not answer to said government, is SIMPLY ABSURD. So when the SOFA goes into effect and our troops take on a police roll under the Iraqi government... then what? Your claim is irrelevent? Now is now. What may come to pass in the future is NOT now.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #18 December 22, 2008 QuoteThe concept of an independent government in a country under military occupation by a foreign power, whose troops do not answer to said government, is SIMPLY ABSURD. ClickyMike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites livendive 8 #19 December 22, 2008 While I disagree with our actions in Iraq, I'm not naive enough to think our motivation was a modern Crusade. The REAL reason we invaded Iraq was an unsuccessfully resolved Oedipus complex. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,148 #20 December 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteThe concept of an independent government in a country under military occupation by a foreign power, whose troops do not answer to said government, is SIMPLY ABSURD. Clicky Irrelevant (as usual). I don't believe there was a Nazi storm trooper standing behind Petain either.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #21 December 22, 2008 QuoteWhile I disagree with our actions in Iraq, I'm not naive enough to think our motivation was a modern Crusade. The REAL reason we invaded Iraq was an unsuccessfully resolved Oedipus complex. Blues, Dave *rolls eyes* I guess Clinton's reasoning for *HIS* actions was because Saddam wouldn't let Bill into his rape cells to get a little, then.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites livendive 8 #22 December 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteWhile I disagree with our actions in Iraq, I'm not naive enough to think our motivation was a modern Crusade. The REAL reason we invaded Iraq was an unsuccessfully resolved Oedipus complex. Blues, Dave *rolls eyes* I guess Clinton's reasoning for *HIS* actions was because Saddam wouldn't let Bill into his rape cells to get a little, then. Clinton's objectives were the same as Bush Sr's...contain Saddam Hussein. Despite the success of his predecessors, Junior decided to spend a trillion dollars in the spilling of an awful lot of blood, for reasons yet unexplained. I suspect his motivation was at least in part based on a desire to "one up" his immediate predecessor and his dad. Whether or not he's been successful in that regard is a matter of opinion, and mine is that he's been a failure. Clinton and his dad were both better Presidents with better policies on Iraq. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites FallingOsh 0 #23 December 22, 2008 Quote Whether or not he's been successful in that regard is a matter of opinion, and mine is that he's been a failure. Clinton and his dad were both better Presidents with better policies on Iraq. Blues, Dave I guess that opinion would also depend upon whether you're a person sitting safely at home behind your computer or a Kurd living in Iraq. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,148 #24 December 22, 2008 QuoteQuote Whether or not he's been successful in that regard is a matter of opinion, and mine is that he's been a failure. Clinton and his dad were both better Presidents with better policies on Iraq. 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mnealtx 0 #18 December 22, 2008 QuoteThe concept of an independent government in a country under military occupation by a foreign power, whose troops do not answer to said government, is SIMPLY ABSURD. ClickyMike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #19 December 22, 2008 While I disagree with our actions in Iraq, I'm not naive enough to think our motivation was a modern Crusade. The REAL reason we invaded Iraq was an unsuccessfully resolved Oedipus complex. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #20 December 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteThe concept of an independent government in a country under military occupation by a foreign power, whose troops do not answer to said government, is SIMPLY ABSURD. Clicky Irrelevant (as usual). I don't believe there was a Nazi storm trooper standing behind Petain either.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #21 December 22, 2008 QuoteWhile I disagree with our actions in Iraq, I'm not naive enough to think our motivation was a modern Crusade. The REAL reason we invaded Iraq was an unsuccessfully resolved Oedipus complex. Blues, Dave *rolls eyes* I guess Clinton's reasoning for *HIS* actions was because Saddam wouldn't let Bill into his rape cells to get a little, then.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #22 December 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteWhile I disagree with our actions in Iraq, I'm not naive enough to think our motivation was a modern Crusade. The REAL reason we invaded Iraq was an unsuccessfully resolved Oedipus complex. Blues, Dave *rolls eyes* I guess Clinton's reasoning for *HIS* actions was because Saddam wouldn't let Bill into his rape cells to get a little, then. Clinton's objectives were the same as Bush Sr's...contain Saddam Hussein. Despite the success of his predecessors, Junior decided to spend a trillion dollars in the spilling of an awful lot of blood, for reasons yet unexplained. I suspect his motivation was at least in part based on a desire to "one up" his immediate predecessor and his dad. Whether or not he's been successful in that regard is a matter of opinion, and mine is that he's been a failure. Clinton and his dad were both better Presidents with better policies on Iraq. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallingOsh 0 #23 December 22, 2008 Quote Whether or not he's been successful in that regard is a matter of opinion, and mine is that he's been a failure. Clinton and his dad were both better Presidents with better policies on Iraq. Blues, Dave I guess that opinion would also depend upon whether you're a person sitting safely at home behind your computer or a Kurd living in Iraq. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #24 December 22, 2008 QuoteQuote Whether or not he's been successful in that regard is a matter of opinion, and mine is that he's been a failure. Clinton and his dad were both better Presidents with better policies on Iraq. Blues, Dave I guess that opinion would also depend upon whether you're a person sitting safely at home behind your computer or a Kurd living in Iraq. Or the mother of a dead child, killed by a US bomb. Or the family of a dead US serviceman.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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