kallend 2,230 #1 December 16, 2008 The USA is a signatory to this. Article 5. No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment. ... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gene03 0 #2 December 16, 2008 "It's only a God damned piece of paper."“The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him. Stanislaw Jerzy Lec quotes (Polish writer, poet and satirist 1906-1966) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #3 December 16, 2008 Quote"It's only a God damned piece of paper." Yes. And? One could cite a number of other documents that are only pieces of paper, parchment, or vellum. Some matter (e.g., Magna Carta, The Constitution ... religious texts) and have consequences (e.g., the IRS tax code, State traffic codes), others less so (e.g., those unsolicited advertisement inserts shoved in my mailbox, unsolicited Comcast advertisements, etc). VR/Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gene03 0 #4 December 16, 2008 Sarcasm, just stirring the kettle a little.“The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him. Stanislaw Jerzy Lec quotes (Polish writer, poet and satirist 1906-1966) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piper17 1 #5 December 16, 2008 Then, I guess we are no better or no worse than the other nations who signed the declaration....and failed to live up to it. The world has changed a lot and the UN has become a joke since it's founding back in the days following WWII."A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,230 #6 December 16, 2008 QuoteThen, I guess we are no better or no worse than the other nations who signed the declaration....and failed to live up to it. The world has changed a lot and the UN has become a joke since it's founding back in the days following WWII. Do you learn from your mother that the bad behavior of other kids excuses your bad behavior?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #7 December 16, 2008 QuoteQuote"It's only a God damned piece of paper." Yes. And? One could cite a number of other documents that are only pieces of paper, parchment, or vellum. Some matter (e.g., Magna Carta, The Constitution ... religious texts) and have consequences (e.g., the IRS tax code, State traffic codes), others less so (e.g., those unsolicited advertisement inserts shoved in my mailbox, unsolicited Comcast advertisements, etc). VR/Marg I surprised you did not realize he was quoting George W. Bush. (Known these days as the "Lame Ducker")"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #8 December 16, 2008 Is that a real quote? Did Bush actually say that about the Constitution, or is that just a rumor? My guess is it's BS. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #9 December 16, 2008 Quote ... George W. Bush. (Known these days as the "Lame Ducker") I preferred "Duck-Ya". But, I suppose it's kind of strange that the only Countries which, after signing it, actually implemented it to their detriment were the former Soviet union and it's dominions. Otherwise, it was either a difference which made no difference, or a piece of paper to be dodged as the government wished. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #10 December 16, 2008 QuoteIs that a real quote? Did Bush actually say that about the Constitution, or is that just a rumor? My guess is it's BS. Google for "goddamned piece of paper", and you get lots of hits. Here is one that tells the story: http://www.rense.com/general69/paper.htm Too bad he forgot about this:QuoteI do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #11 December 16, 2008 Quote Google for "goddamned piece of paper", and you get lots of hits. Here is one that tells the story: http://www.rense.com/general69/paper.htm Your sounce that you post is from Rense.com? Nice!If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gene03 0 #12 December 17, 2008 QuoteIs that a real quote? Did Bush actually say that about the Constitution, or is that just a rumor? My guess is it's BS. It's a quote attributed to George W. Bush I wasn't there so I don't know for certain if he said it or not. Probably only three or four people know for sure.“The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him. Stanislaw Jerzy Lec quotes (Polish writer, poet and satirist 1906-1966) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loumeinhart 0 #13 December 17, 2008 take 5 and read this for kicks.. http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html I didn't realize the UN gave us so many "rights" !!! Does China know about this? Kallend you better call them and let the Chinese gub'ment know about this! haha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,230 #14 December 17, 2008 The UN doesn't give rights. Member states recognize that people have rights. The USA signed voluntarily. The USA should abide by its obligations.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,230 #15 December 17, 2008 Quote Does China know about this? Kallend you better call them and let the Chinese gub'ment know about this! haha Did your mother teach you that bad behaviour by other kids was an excuse for your bad behavior? What China (or N. Korea or Yemen or Sudan) does is NOT a model for what the USA should do.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites