StreetScooby 5 #1 December 12, 2008 http://greeninc.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/12/11/breaking-california-adopts-nations-most-comprehensive-global-warming-plan/?hp I expect Pelosi is really behind this. Congress will nationalize the Big 3 and drive them to meet California's "needs", since California is too big to fail. Then, Obama will claim he "save or created" 2.5 million jobs. What do yall think?We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #2 December 12, 2008 Quotehttp://greeninc.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/12/11/breaking-california-adopts-nations-most-comprehensive-global-warming-plan/?hp I expect Pelosi is really behind this. Congress will nationalize the Big 3 and drive them to meet California's "needs", since California is too big to fail. Then, Obama will claim he "save or created" 2.5 million jobs. What do yall think? Someone needs to create jobs. More jobs lost in the USA the past 4 weeks (over 500,000) than in any other 4 week period since Dec 1992. Lets see, that was the last full month of Bush I's presidency, and this is the last full month of Bush II's. Seems to be a pattern there.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #3 December 12, 2008 Quotehttp://greeninc.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/12/11/breaking-california-adopts-nations-most-comprehensive-global-warming-plan/?hp I expect Pelosi is really behind this. Actually, this was driven by the guvernator, Arnold. He's definitely a party tweener, even in California. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #4 December 12, 2008 Well CA is certainly warmer than most of the country... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #5 December 12, 2008 Quote Someone needs to create jobs. Yes, and hopefully they are market based, not government based. You cannot tax yourself into prosperity.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #6 December 12, 2008 Quote Well CA is certainly warmer than most of the country... And, seems like they are becoming more and more disconnected from their fiscal reality.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #7 December 12, 2008 Quotehttp://greeninc.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/12/11/breaking-california-adopts-nations-most-comprehensive-global-warming-plan/?hp I expect Pelosi is really behind this. Congress will nationalize the Big 3 and drive them to meet California's "needs", since California is too big to fail. Then, Obama will claim he "save or created" 2.5 million jobs. What do yall think? And they think they (the state) has not enough money now. Just wait........"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #8 December 12, 2008 >>Someone needs to create jobs Translation: "I won't create any." It's always someone else... My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #9 December 12, 2008 Quote It's always someone else... Good point.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #10 December 12, 2008 This is the kind of leadership we need from places like California. You'll all see that green legislation like California is leading will make them the fiscal powerhouse of the world. Like they are now. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #11 December 12, 2008 Pelosi is going to be all over this, and give them all the money they "need". Then, when no automaker will make a car that meets California's "needs", Congress will come up with something to penalize those automakers in the name of saving the world. The nonsense is going to get incredibly thick and stinky.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #12 December 12, 2008 Quote>>Someone needs to create jobs Translation: "I won't create any." It's always someone else... Not sure its within my power or competency to create jobs. It is within the power and competency of the US government. 533,000 newly unemployed just last month. I'd rather see people in government employ doing something of value (like fixing bridges and highways) than sitting on their arses collecting unemployment benefits.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #13 December 13, 2008 Sure it is. The economy is down because there is a lack of people spending money. In a sense I agree. The infrastructure could stand some maintenance and upgrades. Now would be a good time to do these things. They HAVE to be done sometime. And right now the resources for doing it are in great supply - that is, cheaper. Now's the time to turn CA Highway 99 into an interstate. Let's get this stuff done when it's cheap to do it. It'll benefit the public and the economy. It's too bad that we don't have a national rainy day fund. Every penny we get was already spent. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #14 December 13, 2008 I really hope they get to impliment (and do it very quickly) all they propose. The faster it is done the sooner the rest of the country will see the folly (and damage) it will cause. In that way, only one of the most liberal (progresive) will suffer from the this &^%*#& policy. Edited to add: I speak of the state, not the people. I wish, the shit they will cause, to happen to nobody......"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #15 December 13, 2008 QuoteI really hope they get to impliment (and do it very quickly) all they propose. The faster it is done the sooner the rest of the country will see the folly (and damage) it will cause. In that way, only one of the most liberal (progresive) will suffer from the this &^%*#& policy. Edited to add: I speak of the state, not the people. I wish, the shit they will cause, to happen to nobody...... the left is really ignorant aren't they, didn't the effect of FDR's policies have any influence on todays democrats? the way you make jobs is to let the private sector grow, not take money out of the private sector by taxing. the government would do better by cutting taxes but put regulations on ceo's and large companies as to what % of money can go to the exec's. promote jobs yes but not at the expense of putting large burdens on companies with taxes and increasing the national debt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #16 December 14, 2008 >the way you make jobs is to let the private sector grow, not take money out >of the private sector by taxing. Yep. Look where that got us. >the government would do better by cutting taxes but put regulations on >ceo's and large companies as to what % of money can go to the exec's. Why - I had no idea you supported socialism! Government control of corporations? I'd prefer that companies pay their executives whatever they like - and that they be allowed to fail when they make stupid decisions concerning executive pay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #17 December 15, 2008 Quote>the way you make jobs is to let the private sector grow, not take money out >of the private sector by taxing. Yep. Look where that got us. >the government would do better by cutting taxes but put regulations on >ceo's and large companies as to what % of money can go to the exec's. Why - I had no idea you supported socialism! Government control of corporations? I'd prefer that companies pay their executives whatever they like - and that they be allowed to fail when they make stupid decisions concerning executive pay. I don't support socialism, but i feel this would be alot better than what the government is doing now, call it a comprimise, liberals know what that is right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
