FreeflyChile 0 #1 December 9, 2008 Hey everyone, Don't know if this has been posted yet.... http://blog.wired.com/cars/2008/12/canadas-high-co.html Now I understand if there are people with disabilities that may require extra attention or special circumstances. But with regard to fat people - it's simple -- you put in less food in your mouth, and you will not be as big! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #2 December 9, 2008 I like it! If you weigh 230 pounds, and the cutoff for a second seat is 260, now you have an incentive to start working and choke down an extra cheeseburger a day. If you were wondering if you need a personal nurse, now's the time to get her a free seat. Wondering if you need a service animal? Perhaps one to allay your anxiety over flying? Go with the St. Bernard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #3 December 9, 2008 I love how they make the law to give them a "Free" seat. It takes so much to fly a plane, if they remove a few seats from the total available, then the prices go up for everybody. So now the fit people (and the unhealthily skinny too) have to pay extra for the fatties. I love how governments define "free". ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FreeflyChile 0 #4 December 9, 2008 Basically - they did that on the simpsons where Homer tried to get disability by gaining weight. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #5 December 9, 2008 QuoteWondering if you need a service animal? Perhaps one to allay your anxiety over flying? Go with the St. Bernard. or just eat the St. Bernard ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #6 December 9, 2008 Air Canada has about 25million passengers annually and the fatty tax would cost the airline aprx. $7million....thats only a quater per ticket. I'm just gonna consider it fatty insurance. I'll never have to worry about sitting in half a seat and paying full price for it ever again!Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #7 December 9, 2008 Quote I like it!.... I concur. It's a wonderful idea.Not that I fly anymore... My 6 year old does (at half fare), but he needs an escort (me), but I'm too tall to fly comfortably in Cargo-Class so they'll have to turn us Left when we get on the plane to accomodate the combined special needs.Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertime24 8 #8 December 9, 2008 This reminds me of something funny my friend did. He was on a 6hr flight and had the unlucky fate of sitting beside a fatt-ass. When said fat-ass asked him to "draw up a little" he responded with "how about you develop an eating dissorder". Muff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #9 December 9, 2008 QuoteAir Canada has about 25million passengers annually and the fatty tax would cost the airline aprx. $7million....thats only a quater per ticket. I'm just gonna consider it fatty insurance. I'll never have to worry about sitting in half a seat and paying full price for it ever again! So you think we should all pay a quarter more on our tickets because someone else won't go to the gym or eat less ... I would rather pay the same on my tickets and they pay more on their tickets."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #10 December 9, 2008 It was a completely disgusting ruling. Since these people have been declared officially disabled I guess the airline has to give them two meals as well. I wonder if they have a right to an extra lobster for the price of one when they go out to eat. One more reason for the airlines to go to a strict you+all your bags on the scale and pay by the pound policy, just like the cargo industry. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #11 December 9, 2008 QuoteAir Canada and WestJet had asked the court to strike down the regulation; its refusal to do so was hailed by advocates of the obese. "It's going to make a huge difference because now I know that I'll be able to fly with dignity," Linda McKay-Panos, who is obese Yeah, it was the airline seats that were taking away her dignity. Not the rippling waves of her own flab that were hanging over the armrest, oh no. It was the seats.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #12 December 9, 2008 QuoteAir Canada has about 25million passengers annually and the fatty tax would cost the airline aprx. $7million....thats only a quater per ticket. Unless there was an army of big people who haven't been flying due to the cost of paying double, and will now show up. Taking the side of the partially obese for a moment, the airlines have been shrinking the width of the seats over the past couple decades to the point where any relatively tall person is already nearly as wide as the open space. We went from 2+2 to 3+3, and 2+5+2 to 3+4+3, etc. At some point the airlines did contribute to the problem. Perhaps the 'fair' standard is that no one who can't fit in the 1980 seat must pay, but those who can't fit the 2008 seat get the 'free' ride. Then the airlines can respond by add a couple fat rows - and sell any leftover seats as an upgrade option. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #13 December 9, 2008 Quote So you think we should all pay a quarter more on our tickets because someone else won't go to the gym or eat less ... I would rather pay the same on my tickets and they pay more on their tickets. I don't see a difference between a disability caused by eating too much or caused because you decided to jump off a cliif for fun. I can continue to eat the same amount of food that I always have, and though I'm not fat now, that could change in the future....I do not control nature. I also understand that people aren't perfect.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #14 December 9, 2008 http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1798438 See this thread for my experience flying with one of the "Volumetrically-Enhanced." Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #15 December 9, 2008 >Unless there was an army of big people who haven't been flying due to the >cost of paying double, and will now show up. Or there are people who want an extra seat, and now have an incentive to gain weight, carry more weight or develop a medical problem that requires an extra seat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #16 December 9, 2008 QuoteTaking the side of the partially obese for a moment, the airlines have been shrinking the width of the seats over the past couple decades to the point where any relatively tall person is already nearly as wide as the open space. Actually, yes, I have noticed that. When I sit in coach class on airplanes, my shoulders stick out past the width of the seat on both sides. And I'm not even a big man, I am 5'9" and 155 to 160 lbs. So I guess some of this is the airlines fault if they aren't even making seats wide enough for average-sized men. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #17 December 9, 2008 QuoteI don't see a difference between a disability caused by eating too much or caused because you decided to jump off a cliif for fun. What does that have to do with the discussion? QuoteI can continue to eat the same amount of food that I always have, and though I'm not fat now, that could change in the future....I do not control nature. You may not control nature but you do control your eating and exercise habits. QuoteI also understand that people aren't perfect. What does that have to do with the discussion?"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #18 December 9, 2008 >What does that have to do with the discussion? Figure it out...it already cost me a dollar to explain the concept of human empathy to you.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #19 December 9, 2008 Quote>What does that have to do with the discussion? Figure it out...it already cost me a dollar to explain the concept of human empathy to you. What am I supposed to figure out? That you believe all disabilities are the same and that you believe everyone should share the costs associated with all disabilities. No thanks ... all disabilities are not the same and everyone shouldn't share the costs associated with all disabilities. PS: You wasted your dollar, I already know what the concept of human empathy is. Do you know what the concept of actions, consequences, and personal responsibility are?"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #20 December 9, 2008 QuoteWhat am I supposed to figure out? That you believe all disabilities are the same and that you believe everyone should share the costs associated with all disabilities. No thanks ... all disabilities are not the same and everyone shouldn't share the costs associated with all disabilities. So how would you differentiate between those that are fat because of their own fault and those that are fat through no fault on their own or that are actually trying to fight it? I would rather just pay the quater and get over it rather than judge which people are more worthy to pay the regular price. QuoteI already know what the concept of human empathy is. Good...now try to understand it than maybe you can apply it. QuoteDo you know what the concept of actions, consequences, and personal responsibility are? Yes, and I think a quater is a great deal on showing a little mercy....but I do understand that this could be a problem for some if they are forced to do so...Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #21 December 9, 2008 Quote Air Canada has about 25million passengers annually and the fatty tax would cost the airline aprx. $7million....thats only a quater per ticket. I'm just gonna consider it fatty insurance. I'll never have to worry about sitting in half a seat and paying full price for it ever again! Theres planes that have seats in them????I say make them sit on the floor like normal people.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #22 December 9, 2008 Quote I say make them sit on the floor like normal people. Well if we're talking about a commercial airline, that might hinder the ability for the stewardess to serve my beer....That is a price I'm unwilling to pay....EDIT I mean flight attendant...Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #23 December 10, 2008 Quote Quote I say make them sit on the floor like normal people. Well if we're talking about a commercial airline, that might hinder the ability for the stewardess to serve my beer....That is a price I'm unwilling to pay....EDIT I mean flight attendant... How insensitive - Isn't the term "Customer Service Representative" or was it "in air sex providers"? I can't tell which ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #24 December 10, 2008 I mean flight attendant... >How insensitive - Isn't the term "Customer Service Representative" >or was it "in air sex providers"? >I can't tell which Perhaps the airliners can start a mile high escort service to pay for the extra expense of the fatty tax...It could even pay for them to ride first class, lots of space and good food....let over-indulgence pay for itself....Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tumbler 0 #25 December 10, 2008 As far as I see it... I fly all the time, part of the gig I have. SE’s (seatbelt extenders) are going to fly as well. As pissed off as I might be when I am in coach that they are taking part of my seat it is a simple fact of life. If I have to pay an extra 25 cents, or dollar, or 5 dollars to be comfortable then so be it. Coach already sucks, I am willing to pay more for the insurance of being a tad more comfortable. Thank goodness for business class. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
