Belgian_Draft 0 #26 December 8, 2008 QuoteSorry.. I got 100% on your test... I went with what I knew they were looking for.. not what reality is... Its a case of do the test as they say... not what our government really does. What questions did you find that are not factual? I realize you are not a fan of the current administration, but the three branches of government are the same now as they were 200 years ago.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,564 #28 December 8, 2008 QuoteI'm not an American and I got 30 right. Neither am I, and I got 29. I made 2 really dumb mistakes though.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #29 December 8, 2008 Many of them are feel good questions and may have been the intetent.. and do not reflect reality... I mentioned #3 We are all mired inbureaucratic bullshit, and much of our industry is tied to the support of the military... who does a very good job of liberating tax dollars for the benefit of very few people. Do you really believe we have a Government Of the people By the People and for the people??? Under Our Constitution, some powers belong to the federal government. What is one power of the federal government? How many americans are in federal prisons??? Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, and Aquinas would concur that: all moral and political truth is relative to one’s time and place ( given any realistic historical perspective) The phrase that in America there should be a “wall of separation” between church and state appears in: Appears to be in dissonance with what far too many americans believe. What part of the government has the power to declare war? In my lifetime it certainly appears to be at the whim of the President and those who are pulling his little strings from the shadows. Free enterprise or capitalism exists insofar as: government implements policies that favor businesses over consumers all too frequently A flood-control levee (or National Defense) is considered a public good because: government construction contracts increase employment Get my drift.... yes I am a cynic Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,112 #30 December 8, 2008 Quote Goes to prove we need more speaker corner skydivers in politics Wouldn't that be fun Think people in bonfire would do as well? Throw in a few questions on vibes and boobies and they'd do fine.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #31 December 8, 2008 I understand your point of view. I don't agree with much of it, but I understand many feel the same way as you. The concept of war is much different now than it was 225 years ago. Back then, it was pretty much cut and dried whether two countries were at war. Now, we have all kinds of excuses for the pres to send troops into harms way. NATO, UN, "guarding American interests", etc. all have been used by presidents to bypass congress.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cari 0 #32 December 9, 2008 QuoteMany of them are feel good questions and may have been the intetent.. and do not reflect reality... I mentioned #3 We are all mired inbureaucratic bullshit, and much of our industry is tied to the support of the military... who does a very good job of liberating tax dollars for the benefit of very few people. Do you really believe we have a Government Of the people By the People and for the people??? Under Our Constitution, some powers belong to the federal government. What is one power of the federal government? How many americans are in federal prisons??? Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, and Aquinas would concur that: all moral and political truth is relative to one’s time and place ( given any realistic historical perspective) The phrase that in America there should be a “wall of separation” between church and state appears in: Appears to be in dissonance with what far too many americans believe. What part of the government has the power to declare war? In my lifetime it certainly appears to be at the whim of the President and those who are pulling his little strings from the shadows. Free enterprise or capitalism exists insofar as: government implements policies that favor businesses over consumers all too frequently A flood-control levee (or National Defense) is considered a public good because: government construction contracts increase employment Get my drift.... yes I am a cynic I hate to say it because I usually tend to agree with you...but most of the things you mentioned ask about factual information, not whether or not you agree with the topic in question. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #33 December 9, 2008 QuoteI hate to say it because I usually tend to agree with you...but most of the things you mentioned ask about factual information, not whether or not you agree with the topic in question. Sheesh... Ok lets try this.. I UNDERSTAND the intent of the questions.... BUT.. the reality of our world.... is different than the intent.... The propoganda value of the test though is kinda fun.. when you see it as such... trouble is.. this is what is passing for "education"...which becomes more and more divergent from what is actually occuring. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #34 December 9, 2008 I missed 3. Score = 90.91% Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azdiver 0 #35 December 9, 2008 You answered 33 out of 33 correctly — 100.00 % Average score for this quiz during December: 74.9% Average score: 74.9% You can take the quiz as often as you like, however, your score will only count once toward the monthly average. If you have any comments or questions about the quiz, please email americancivicliteracy@isi.org. You can consult the following table to see how citizens and elected officials scored on each question.light travels faster than sound, that's why some people appear to be bright until you hear them speak Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #36 December 9, 2008 QuoteMany of them are feel good questions and may have been the intetent.. and do not reflect reality... Nope. Most of the questions were matters of fact, not political opinion. Legislative, Executive, and Judicial are the three branches of the US government. Military & Industry, I agree, have undue influence on what our government does, but it is mere political rhetoric to say that they are now "branches of government." I understand the intent of saying such a thing, ie, to emphasize that our government is too much in thrall to them. But zeal to make a political point should not supersede facts. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #37 December 9, 2008 QuoteSocrates, Plato, Aristotle, and Aquinas would concur that: all moral and political truth is relative to one’s time and place ( given any realistic historical perspective) That isn't what the questions asked. It asked what Socrates, Plato, Aristotle and Aquinas would say. I find it hard to picture Aquinas agreeing with your interpretation. Can you cite some quotes from any of these philosophers that would support your claiM? Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #38 December 9, 2008 QuoteThe phrase that in America there should be a “wall of separation” between church and state appears in: Appears to be in dissonance with what far too many americans believe. The particular quote in question DID appear in Thomas Jefferson's writings. (and not in the Constitution) What average Americans may or may not believe was not in the question. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #39 December 9, 2008 So.. go on Speedracers Excellent Adventure... bring them here and see if their perceptions match what they were over two thousand years ago...hop in the phone booth DUUUUUUUUUUUDE Time and place makes for interesting changes in what passes as morality or moralistic relativity....political truth is certainly divergent from what they would have found in their time. Our perceptions of them might be a tad skewed too... with old white haired bearded dudes... who really dug young men... think that would fly in our culture that has serious issues with that kind of action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #40 December 9, 2008 That isn't what the question asked though. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,564 #41 December 9, 2008 QuoteQuoteSocrates, Plato, Aristotle, and Aquinas would concur that: all moral and political truth is relative to one’s time and place ( given any realistic historical perspective) That isn't what the questions asked. It asked what Socrates, Plato, Aristotle and Aquinas would say. I find it hard to picture Aquinas agreeing with your interpretation. Can you cite some quotes from any of these philosophers that would support your claiM? I'd also like to see Amazon try and support this one. I don't know anything about Aquinas, and Socrates and Aristotle are maybe a little debatable, but come on, Plato was NOT a relativist. That's the whole fucking point of the theory of Forms.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
