Almost-Darwin Award?

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If there were such a thing as an "Almost-Darwin Award" for those who not quite finish themselves off in a really stupid manner, serious consideration would have to be given to Plaxico Burress for shooting himself in the leg.
As I heard on the radio:
IF you feel it neccessary to carry a gun into a nightclub...it is probably not worth going into.
IF people wear sweat pants into a nightclub...it is probably not worth going into.
IF you are so stupid as to carry a loaded gun in the waistband of your sweat pants...you probably deserve to get shot in the leg. Or between them.

Why do so many professional athletes, who have the world at their feet, throw their careers and lives away for nothing???
How did this guy ever get through college????

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If there were such a thing as an "Almost-Darwin Award" for those who not quite finish themselves off in a really stupid manner, serious consideration would have to be given to Plaxico Burress for shooting himself in the leg.
As I heard on the radio:
IF you feel it neccessary to carry a gun into a nightclub...it is probably not worth going into.
IF people wear sweat pants into a nightclub...it is probably not worth going into.
IF you are so stupid as to carry a loaded gun in the waistband of your sweat pants...you probably deserve to get shot in the leg. Or between them.

Why do so many professional athletes, who have the world at their feet, throw their careers and lives away for nothing???
How did this guy ever get through college????

Michigan State!

Most of the big sports colleges and universities have special rules for "special" people.

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Yeah, I remember that from when I was in college. There were times I felt the only reason they even had a student body was to justify having a football team.

HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.

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Michigan State!

So how does that compare to Arizona State? Or as one columnist wrote, anything with "Florida" in it?

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Michigan State!

So how does that compare to Arizona State? Or as one columnist wrote, anything with "Florida" in it?

If they are NCAA division 1, they probably have special rules for athletes. One of academia's dirty not-so-secrets that generally pisses off the real students and faculty. That, and the head coach getting paid way more than the Nobel laureates on the faculty.

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Michigan State!

So how does that compare to Arizona State? Or as one columnist wrote, anything with "Florida" in it?

If they are NCAA division 1, they probably have special rules for athletes. One of academia's dirty not-so-secrets that generally pisses off the real students and faculty. That, and the head coach getting paid way more than the Nobel laureates on the faculty.

I agree about 95%. In defense of the rare exception, there are, on occasion, coaches who get paid big bucks because they are actually worth it. It's rare, but it does happen.
One "special rule" that I truly despised was one that allowed athletes to take their midterms on the road. Supposedly they were to follow the same guidelines as the rest of the students, but it was well known and openly admitted that they were allowed text books, notes, etc. The coaches sat them in the back of the plane or bus "so they wouldn't be bothered" by the rest of the playeers, then sat up front so nobody could say they gave them assistance.

HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.

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True but the coach usually (D1) is making the school a lot more money than the Nobel laureates.

That football money probably paid for the research of those Nobel laureates.

And i could be way off because i don't even know what the fuck a laureate is!

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And i could be way off because i don't even know what the fuck a laureate is!

That would be a dude (or dudess) that wears chicken-feathers on his (or her) head, like those statues of greek people. I guess when you do something good, other people think it's a neat idea to pluck a poor chicken and stick it's feathers on your head, and they call that a laurel.

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Did you happen to go to school on a sports scholarship

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

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Of course, not all colleges that give a lot of emphasis to their athletic programs are necessarily slouches on the academic side of campus. This thread made me curious about Michigan State's academic reputation. Here's one write-up (with sources cited). Note in particular the sections Academics, Rankings and Research.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_State_University#Academics

I then drilled the link to Footnote 30 to check one reviewer's measure of its ranking. (I didn't take the time to compare this to other reviewers' similar surveys; I just looked at this survey because it's cited in the article.) Anyhow, just to give me a basis for comparison, I had the search function compare MSU to a few other Midwest colleges selected entirely at random, some of which also have strong athletic programs, and some that do not. (This is at the undergraduate level):

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/college/compare/items+1691+2290+2360+6883+9092

I was also curious about how MSU's graduate program stacked up comparatively. Choosing, at random, the category of Engineering, MSU is ranked # 59. I also compared it to 4 other Midwest engineering grad schools selected entirely at random:

http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/grad/eng/compare/items+02053+02057+02060+02084+02139

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And i could be way off because i don't even know what the fuck a laureate is!

That would be a dude (or dudess) that wears chicken-feathers on his (or her) head, like those statues of greek people. I guess when you do something good, other people think it's a neat idea to pluck a poor chicken and stick it's feathers on your head, and they call that a laurel.

Or on the other hand (sounds crazy, but bear with me) a laurel wreath might just maybe have been made with the leaves of the laurel tree. Hence the name Laureate. From laurel wreath. Not chicken feather wreath.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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If there were such a thing as an "Almost-Darwin Award" for those who not quite finish themselves off in a really stupid manner, serious consideration would have to be given to Plaxico Burress for shooting himself in the leg.
As I heard on the radio:
IF you feel it neccessary to carry a gun into a nightclub...it is probably not worth going into.
IF people wear sweat pants into a nightclub...it is probably not worth going into.
IF you are so stupid as to carry a loaded gun in the waistband of your sweat pants...you probably deserve to get shot in the leg. Or between them.

Perhaps you prefer the Mike Ditka approach to gun safety:

"I don't understand the league, why can anybody have a gun? I will have a policy, no guns, any NFL players we find out, period, you're suspended."

Source: http://nfl.fanhouse.com/...rs-from-owning-guns/

Do you want to deny guns from all sports players, because of an incident by just one?

As to why pro sports players want to carry guns: they are often the targets of violent nuts, just like other famous people. Just look at what happened to Sean Taylor, who was murdered, and Paul Pierce, who was stabbed 11 times.

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Do you want to deny guns from all sports players, because of an incident by just one?

I see absolutely nothing in his post that indicates that. Why on earth do you think that is his position?

Counterpoint, do you think accidentally shooting oneself in the leg in a nightclub indicates a sensible, responsible person?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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If there were such a thing as an "Almost-Darwin Award" for those who not quite finish themselves off in a really stupid manner, serious consideration would have to be given to Plaxico Burress for shooting himself in the leg.
As I heard on the radio:
IF you feel it neccessary to carry a gun into a nightclub...it is probably not worth going into.
IF people wear sweat pants into a nightclub...it is probably not worth going into.
IF you are so stupid as to carry a loaded gun in the waistband of your sweat pants...you probably deserve to get shot in the leg. Or between them.

Perhaps you prefer the Mike Ditka approach to gun safety:

"I don't understand the league, why can anybody have a gun? I will have a policy, no guns, any NFL players we find out, period, you're suspended."

Source: http://nfl.fanhouse.com/...rs-from-owning-guns/

Do you want to deny guns from all sports players, because of an incident by just one?

Uhh, John? You're deja vu-ing yourself all over again. Remember this from the "gun ownership" thread just yesterday?

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3410869#3410869

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Of course, there's always this risk.

[JohnRich]: Perhaps you prefer the Mike Ditka approach to gun safety:

"I don't understand the league, why can anybody have a gun? I will have a policy, no guns, any NFL players we find out, period, you're suspended."

Source: http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2008/11/30/mike-ditka-nfl-should-prohibit-all-players-from-owning-guns/

Do you want to deny them from everybody, because of an accident by one?

[Andy9o8]: I doubt Mike Ditka (not unlike Chuck Norris) would be called a sniveling anything-phobe by anyone, at least not to his face. He's also a Republican who refers to himself as an "ultra-ultra-conservative" (see links below). So what do you suppose his motivation is?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Ditka#Politics

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/columnist/wickham/2004-07-19-wickham_x.htm

Come to think of it, I'm still waiting for an answer.

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JohnRich is actually a forum bot created by the NRA.

There was a minor issue with script, shouldn't happen again.

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>As to why pro sports players want to carry guns: they are often the targets of violent nuts . . .

Yep. Indeed, here we have an example of where a pro sports player was the victim of a violent gun-nut pro sports player.

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Uh, John....I am not at all against responsible people having guns. In fact, I have been a life member of the NRA for almost 20 years. (Just got my new card today). I am not even against PB owning a gun before he so eloquently subdued his attacker with one shot.
PB has proven himself an irresponsible person not capable of safely carrying a weapon.

HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.

[kelpdiver 2]

has the model gun been identified?

Seems like he needs ones with multiple safeties, and should never go near glocks.

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Does anyone know the make and model & colour, his experience level, Shot numbers and magazine loading

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Does anyone know the make and model & colour, his experience level, Shot numbers and magazine loading

You forgot: what brand and size were his pants

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has the model gun been identified?

Seems like he needs ones with multiple safeties, and should never go near glocks.

From what I have read...
PB gun make: Glock
PB gun caliber: .40
PB brain model: Rhode Island Red

HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.

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You forgot: what brand and size were his pants

From what I'm reading, they were too baggy

We are all engines of karma

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Do you want to deny guns from all sports players, because of an incident by just one?

I see absolutely nothing in his post that indicates that. Why on earth do you think that is his position?

Counterpoint, do you think accidentally shooting oneself in the leg in a nightclub indicates a sensible, responsible person?

Re: see absolutely nothing...

Because he says so in the quote in the news story. I don't see how you could have missed it.

Re: counterpoint...

It depends. Lots of sensible, responsible people have accidents. That doesn't necessarily make them irresponsible nuts just because they had one accident. It would take a long record of such acts to prove that. Besides, if you're going to brand everyone who has ever had a single accident as irresponsible nuts, then we all fit that definition. I'm not going to judge a man by one mistake.

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Uhh, John? You're deja vu-ing yourself all over again. Remember this from the "gun ownership" thread just yesterday?

Sure, I remember it. The incident is being discussed in two places, neither of which were started by me. So this quote is relevant in both places. If you want to get a moderator to combine the two threads to eliminate redundancy, that's fine by me.

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Do you want to deny them from everybody, because of an accident by one?

I doubt Mike Ditka would be called a sniveling anything-phobe by anyone, at least not to his face. He's also a Republican who refers to himself as an "ultra-ultra-conservative". So what do you suppose his motivation is? Come to think of it, I'm still waiting for an answer.

I didn't answer because you didn't have any valid point. Ditka's political affiliation is irrelevant. It's his actions that are in question. The fact is, he's calling for a gun ban against all NFL players, because of an accident by just one of them.

Do you think that's a proper response? Yes or no?

Instead of concentrating on attacking JohnRich, perhaps you should instead (using an apt football analogy here) keep your eye on the ball and discuss the actual issue.

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Do you want to deny guns from all sports players, because of an incident by just one?

I see absolutely nothing in his post that indicates that. Why on earth do you think that is his position?

Counterpoint, do you think accidentally shooting oneself in the leg in a nightclub indicates a sensible, responsible person?

Re: see absolutely nothing...

Because he says so in the quote in the news story. I don't see how you could have missed it.

Where in my post did I say that? The only statement to that effect was in the quote from Mike Ditka that you yourself posted.

HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.

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