Skyrad 0 #26 November 25, 2008 Cool he found a Mosque with a gym!When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #27 November 25, 2008 Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #28 November 25, 2008 Comming to terms with Rev Wright as your pastor could cause one to take a few steps back and re-evaluate the situation...I would also suspect there would be some trust issues to deal with as well. Going to Church is not a requirement for Christianity unless you're Catholic....not sure about other faiths.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crwtom 0 #29 November 25, 2008 Quote You sure can getem rilled up John more like thoroughly amused -- sounded like an SNL parody or something like that on first reading ******************************************************************* Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #30 November 26, 2008 QuoteObama skips church, heads to gym We're getting change all right - he's changing before our very eyes, from the image he portrayed to get your vote during the election, to what he really is - a die-hard extremist liberal. .....or maybe, oh I don't know.....SATAN????!!!! edited to add: "Weeell, I guess SOME of us only go to church when it's CONVEEENIENT!!" Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #31 November 26, 2008 QuoteWhat do I scaremonger with now? Make no mistake - the Dems are doing their share of fear mongering. Calling the current economic crisis the next Great Depression, for example. You can use rhetoric like that to win an election, but it doesn't do any good for the economy.Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ion01 2 #32 November 26, 2008 and if he did go to church where would he go. Well, we can look at where he used to: http://abcnews.go.com/blotter/story?id=4443788 http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=59230 Remember Obama said this man was his spiritual mentor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #33 November 26, 2008 QuoteMake no mistake - the Dems are doing their share of fear mongering. Calling the current economic crisis the next Great Depression, for example. You can use rhetoric like that to win an election, but it doesn't do any good for the economy. Actually, I think if it wises people up to how serious this downturn is, that it could do good for the economy. There are still an unbelievable amount of people out there who think we're doing just fine and this will go away in a few more weeks. It is very serious, and it could be the next Great Depression. If people realize that now, and start spending their money more wisely and saving what they can while they can, it may help them out very much in the next few years. There are certain things an intelligent person should be scared of (and whether or not their country's leader prays to Jesus enough is not one of those things).www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #34 November 26, 2008 Quote You sure can getem riled up John Well, it's so easy. All you gotta do is bring a heinous murderer to justice, save an innocent unborn baby, pray in public, or carry a gun for lawful self defense, and the liberals go all sorts of ballistic! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #35 November 26, 2008 Quote Quote You sure can getem riled up John Well, it's so easy. All you gotta do is bring a white collar criminal to justice, save an innocent man on death row, pray in public to Allah, or choose not to carry a gun for lawful self defense, and the conservatives go all sorts of ballistic! For the other stupid stereotype. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #36 November 26, 2008 Quote Obama skips church, heads to gym President-elect Barack Obama has yet to attend church services since winning the White House earlier this month, a departure from the example of his two immediate predecessors. Any one who cares needs to move to the Vatican.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #37 November 26, 2008 A woman in the film said "Its not being radical, its being Black in America' Do you have a fith column within America today if that is true? Is Mr Wright really so far from the mark? I don't agree with the God damn America statement but really "Americas chickens have come home to roost" Sounds pretty acurate to me.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #38 November 26, 2008 Quote Quote Obama skips church, heads to gym President-elect Barack Obama has yet to attend church services since winning the White House earlier this month, a departure from the example of his two immediate predecessors. Any one who cares needs to move to the Vatican. Ah - so hypocrisy only matters if it's a Republican doing it?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #39 November 26, 2008 Quote Quote You sure can getem riled up John Well, it's so easy. All you gotta do is bring a heinous murderer to justice, save an innocent unborn baby, pray in public, or carry a gun for lawful self defense, and the liberals go all sorts of ballistic! I hear Osama Bin Laden says the same thing ('cept his babies are a different colour)When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #40 November 26, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Obama skips church, heads to gym President-elect Barack Obama has yet to attend church services since winning the White House earlier this month, a departure from the example of his two immediate predecessors. Any one who cares needs to move to the Vatican. Ah - so hypocrisy only matters if it's a Republican doing it? He's only a hyprocrite if he ever said anything about the relative importance of attending a church or a gym on a Sunday morning.www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #41 November 26, 2008 >Ah - so hypocrisy only matters if it's a Republican doing it? Where is there hypocrisy? You've been listening to too many right wing talk shows lately, methinks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #42 November 26, 2008 Right, like the hypocrisy of excoriating a man his religious convictions because he regularly went to church for 20 years, and then complaining about his lack of religious conviction when he skips church for two Sundays. If you don't see that hypocrisy, then I can't help you. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #43 November 26, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote Obama skips church, heads to gym President-elect Barack Obama has yet to attend church services since winning the White House earlier this month, a departure from the example of his two immediate predecessors. Any one who cares needs to move to the Vatican. Ah - so hypocrisy only matters if it's a Republican doing it? He's only a hyprocrite if he ever said anything about the relative importance of attending a church or a gym on a Sunday morning. How about his own statements about being a devout Christian, or the ads from his campaign, referenced above?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hausse 0 #44 November 26, 2008 Completely off Topic question: There is a mention of how he was sworn in on his family bible. What would happen when (if) an atheist got elected? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #45 November 26, 2008 QuoteWell, it's so easy. All you gotta do is bring a heinous murderer to justice You bring this shit up over and over again, and when people reply to you with the same point each time, you ignore them and refuse to comment on it. Several examples have been given of innocent people convicted of "heinous murder." What is your opinion on that? When is the execution of an innocent man ever an acceptable form of collateral damage? I have not seen you answer that question, you just repeatedly go on and on about how murderers need to die. I don't think anybody disagrees too strongly with that one. The major point of contention is that the government makes fucking mistakes, i.e. is not infallible in its criminal convictions. And I still haven't seen you address this issue.www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #46 November 26, 2008 QuoteQuoteHe's only a hyprocrite if he ever said anything about the relative importance of attending a church or a gym on a Sunday morning. How about his own statements about being a devout Christian, or the ads from his campaign, referenced above? Nope, I don't think those statements say anything about the relative importance of attending a church or a gym on a Sunday morning. Please show me if I'm wrong.www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #47 November 26, 2008 Quote It is very serious, and it could be the next Great Depression. I don't disagree with you - it is serious. But saying it could be the next Great Depression sounds familiar: - We have to go to war in Iraq because they could be making a nuclear bomb. - Terrorists could be sneaking liquid explosives onto airplanes, so we should all throw out our bottled water. - The government could take away all our guns if we don't reign in those judges. - Vote yes on Prop 8 because all our kids could all end up gay and it'll be the end of the human race. The word could is an overused indicator of fear mongering. I would hate to see the new administration use it as a tool, the way the current administration has been using it for the last eight years.Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #48 November 26, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteHe's only a hyprocrite if he ever said anything about the relative importance of attending a church or a gym on a Sunday morning. How about his own statements about being a devout Christian, or the ads from his campaign, referenced above? Nope, I don't think those statements say anything about the relative importance of attending a church or a gym on a Sunday morning. Please show me if I'm wrong. I guess he's not as "devout" or "committed" a Christian as he claims, now is he?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #49 November 26, 2008 QuoteQuote It is very serious, and it could be the next Great Depression. I don't disagree with you - it is serious. But saying it could be the next Great Depression sounds familiar: - We have to go to war in Iraq because they could be making a nuclear bomb. - Terrorists could be sneaking liquid explosives onto airplanes, so we should all throw out our bottled water. - The government could take away all our guns if we don't reign in those judges. - Vote yes on Prop 8 because all our kids could all end up gay and it'll be the end of the human race. The word could is an overused indicator of fear mongering. I would hate to see the new administration use it as a tool, the way the current administration has been using it for the last eight years. Yeh, I agree that many of your examples are bad coulds... because of the actions (war, waste, and prejudice) which result from jumping to conclusions too soon. However, what's the worst than can happen if we the people fear an economic depression? We save our money, stop living on credit, and in general take better notice of our own financial planning? The absence of these things is what led to this mess in the first place... In this case the action resulting from fear would be neither war, waste, nor prejudice... but instead savings and fiscal responsibility.www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #50 November 26, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Obama skips church, heads to gym President-elect Barack Obama has yet to attend church services since winning the White House earlier this month, a departure from the example of his two immediate predecessors. Any one who cares needs to move to the Vatican. Ah - so hypocrisy only matters if it's a Republican doing it? No Mike but considering we have heard every bullshit none issue it gets old and your arguments and whole side looks weak and more irrational then ever that’s all. It looks like the republicans are trying to get revenge for Bush, but they are forgetting that Bush was president and by many account will be remembered as the worst. Some republicans take that personal but the reality is he has been horrible and his mismanagement has cost LIVES. How about we wait till Obama starts doing his job then start criticizing him for not cutting his toenails or something. There is a reason we didn’t like bush, It was not because of his religion, where he was from, or how often he went to church (The man was a cokehead). We disliked him because he betrayed the country and was a giant failure in all aspects. Frankly all this searching for a bull shit reason to hate Obama before he has even had the opportunity to show what kind of president he would be says more about the people looking for any reason to hate him then it does of Obama.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
