normiss 917 #1 November 18, 2008 DNA! 30 years. Wow. Yay for our legal system. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #2 November 18, 2008 QuoteYay for our legal system. QuoteDillon's attorney has threatened to put prosecutors on the stand because he said a lot of corruption was involved in the trial. Perhaps if we started putting the asshats who go out of their way to falsify and wrongly accuse those who they deem "undesireable" in their communities into prison... we would get a system of justice.. rather than paying lip service to it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 917 #3 November 18, 2008 I couldn't agree more. "putting them on the stand" isn't the same thing either. Charge them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,230 #4 November 18, 2008 One is forced to wonder how many were wrongly executed prior to the advent of DNA testing.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #5 November 18, 2008 Quote One is forced to wonder how many were wrongly executed prior to the advent of DNA testing. One would have to be dishonest to argue our system is infallible and no innocents were ever executed. IMHO www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #6 November 18, 2008 But there is a simple solution - Don't Execute anyone. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #7 November 18, 2008 agreed.www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #8 November 18, 2008 (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #9 November 18, 2008 QuoteBut there is a simple solution - Don't Execute anyone. That would be fine for the old cases where DNA testing was not available then. However in this age for all new cases, if DNA testing proves without a shadow of a doubt that a criminal is guilty of capital murder or any heinous crimes with special circumstances, then give them the death penalty."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #10 November 18, 2008 Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't believe DNA testing works that way. I think it can exonerate soemone but not prove their guilt.www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #11 November 18, 2008 I sort of understand where you're coming from but can't really agree (I just don't believe in capital punishment [Full Stop]).... Now if it was my friends/family murdered maybe I'd feel differently - but that's revenge not justice. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,648 #12 November 18, 2008 QuoteHowever in this age for all new cases, if DNA testing proves without a shadow of a doubt that a criminal is guilty of capital murder or any heinous crimes with special circumstances, then give them the death penalty. You can't write a law that says you'll only execute the people who you were really-super-extra-sure-actually-certainly-definitely did it. Even if you could, you would still, at some point, find a case where human error (accidental or deliberate) had crept in somewhere and distorted the facts that were presented in the trial.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #13 November 18, 2008 QuoteQuoteBut there is a simple solution - Don't Execute anyone. That would be fine for the old cases where DNA testing was not available then. However in this age for all new cases, if DNA testing proves without a shadow of a doubt that a criminal is guilty of capital murder or any heinous crimes with special circumstances, then give them the death penalty. We still have a system in which prosecuting and defense attorneys fight it out for a "win", truth be damned, and sometimes the "right" side loses. Some of these are guilty parties who are acquitted, others are innocent parties who are convicted. Regardless, because we can reasonably predict that some of our convicts will, in fact, be innocent, it is immoral for us to put any of them to death. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 917 #14 November 18, 2008 No doubt. One of my biggest issues with the death penalty is just that. I believe in life in prison with no parole for 2 reasons. It IS pure hell for them for the rest of their life (execution being the easy way out for them). It gives us the opportunity to correct mistakes made in the legal system. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #15 November 19, 2008 QuoteCharge them. Yes!.....With treason.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prodiver913 0 #16 November 20, 2008 man you have a very true but freaky sig line I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,230 #17 November 20, 2008 Quoteman you have a very true but freaky sig line Yep - surviving a collision at 100ft is a matter of luck, not skill. Some far far more talented skydivers than me have died in canopy collisions.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
