SpeedRacer 1 #1 November 17, 2008 I remember all the rumor-mongering about whether Obama was a secret Muslim, and it was clear to me that some people would have a real problem voting for a Muslim. Even Mitt Romney got some crap for being a Mormon. So would it affect you? Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #2 November 17, 2008 I'd rather they weren't religious at all. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #3 November 17, 2008 Politicians who are overly religious bother me regardless of which flavor of god they prefer. But a devout Muslim wouldn't bother me any more or less than a devout Christian. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #4 November 17, 2008 I have problems with anyone of any faith that demands others to follow their particular brand of religion and hence wears their faith on thier sleeve. I dont care how one beleives as long as they keep it to themselves... I do not want to live in a theocracy of ANY form. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #5 November 17, 2008 QuotePoliticians who are overly religious bother me regardless of which flavor of god they prefer. But a devout Muslim wouldn't bother me any more or less than a devout Christian. Given the status of women in most Muslim countries, I'd prefer the Christian (so long as it's not a Mormon, for the same reasons). The Christians have also given up on the concept of the Crusade (Jihad). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #6 November 17, 2008 Quote I have problems with anyone of any faith that demands others to follow their particular brand of religion... keep it to themselves.... +1They can be as religious as they want, as long as it doesn't affect how they carry out their duties. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,230 #7 November 17, 2008 Quote The Christians have also given up on the concept of the Crusade (Jihad). They have? I thought they'd just re-named it "promoting democracy".... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LOSTandCRAZY 0 #8 November 17, 2008 There are extremists in ALL religions. The Evangelicals funded Eric Rudolph (the Atlanta Olympic bomber) while he was bombing abortion clinics. The Oklahoma City Bomber, not only a white supremacist, was devoutly religious... How are these guys any different from the other terrorists out there? Like the above post, I'd prefer all public servants to be either agnostic, or not religious at all, simply due to the fact that "separation of church and state" kind of requires that frame of mind, and the Constitution demands it. Religion skews viewpoints, even clouds judgement. If I can't drive a car after too many beers, I think the same rule should apply to making decisions after having too many scriptures to the head. People kill for religion, people die for religion. It's that distracting from what really matters: LIVING. I'd prefer a "spiritualist" of any sort, vs. a "religious" person. So it would depend."Get these balls!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #9 November 17, 2008 The most rude and unnoticed comment was " he is not Muslim, or Arab he is a nice person". If you change that word to any other minority it would have caused an uproar. I also see the prejudice in most posts. You didn't ask if any one would have a problem voting for an extremist Muslim, just a Muslim. yet most of the replays are about extremist and the worst examples. lets not forget we have not yet had an atheist president so all others did have a religion and did receive votes. Also lets not forget Sarah Palin who apparently energized the the Republican party is religious to say the least. I think most of the US needs a great giant mirror, and as for Jihad kelland put it best. Just because you don't call it "Jihad" does not mean you ain't doing it. how many US bases around the world? how many us soldiers are in the Middle East? all for what a group of extremist who we used to support attacked us. All of our actions since then have been counterproductive because no one can publicly admit hey we do fuck up and some of the shit is our fault, and we need to change the way we do things period.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,173 #10 November 17, 2008 There are some real crazies out there nowadays. Reminds me of the days when Martin Luther King was called an anti-american communist organizer by Southern racists. http://www.myfoxkc.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7882247&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.11.1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #11 November 17, 2008 Yes, one's personal beliefs affect my likelihood to vote for them. To what extent is the real question.Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #12 November 18, 2008 Nope not one bit.You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #13 November 18, 2008 QuoteQuote The Christians have also given up on the concept of the Crusade (Jihad). They have? I thought they'd just re-named it "promoting democracy". hmm...I was going to reply that Bush did it for America and capitalism, not god, but in my view most of the actions of the Muslim world in the name of Allah were really for their own wealth too, so I'll grant you the point for it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #14 November 18, 2008 QuoteThe Evangelicals funded Eric Rudolph Whoopedy fuckin' do. The comparison of this isolated case to the MASSIVE funding behind TODAY's Islamic terrorist organizations is nothing short of a good joke. It's a good chuckle every time someone posts it. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #16 November 18, 2008 I think it would depend on HOW they are religious rather than which religion they belong to, or even their degree of religiosity. People are going on about extremists, but the vast majority of religious people aren't like that. For example, Benedictine monks are extremely religious people, yet I don't hear people complaining about them. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 3 #17 November 18, 2008 QuoteQuoteThe Evangelicals funded Eric Rudolph Whoopedy fuckin' do. The comparison of this isolated case to the MASSIVE funding behind TODAY's Islamic terrorist organizations is nothing short of a good joke. Assuming you have a point, where do you suppose the MASSIVE funding for Irish Republican Army terrorism, especially in its heyday, came from? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #18 November 18, 2008 Are their any Muslims in congress? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #19 November 18, 2008 Keith Ellison of Minnesota is a Muslim & took his oath of office on the Koran. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #20 November 18, 2008 QuoteKeith Ellison of Minnesota is a Muslim & took his oath of office on the Koran. Are there any other religions or None that swore/attested via other documents? (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #21 November 18, 2008 I'm a little surprised more people haven't voted yes, it would bother them. It would certainly bother me to some extent, naturally depending on numerous other factors regarding the candidate. However, if the candidate ticked all the right boxes, and it was a choice of either him or Tony Blair. . . I doubt the UK/USA is ready for a Muslim leader yet. It'd be as unlikely as Obama becoming POTUS in the Fifties. Still, I read in a recent publication a poll for potentially worse possible Presidents than Dubya. The clear winner, by a large margin, was Satan! 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #22 November 18, 2008 QuoteAssuming you have a point, Yea, my point is that it's extremely disingenuous to make a direct comparison between Christian funded terrorism TODAY, and Islamic funded terrorism TODAY. Quotewhere do you suppose the MASSIVE funding for Irish Republican Army terrorism, especially in its heyday, came from? If it were happening TODAY, I'd be quick to bitch about it, and in fact bitched about it back then. I'm against terrorism from any quarter, and am fully aware that Christians have a pretty dark history (and don't support them), but TODAY, there is no comparing Christians and Islamics on the topic of terrorism, most especially the scale at which it is occuring. Much as several folks on here like to paint a picture of equity between the two religions, it's plainly false, and will remain false until we see a thousand Eric Rudophs, "funded by Christians", attacking people. Edit: When I first posted, I expected some to reach into the past to counter what I said, hence the word TODAY in all caps. Thanks for filling in. All that's left now is for someone to inform me that the US government is actually a MASSIVE terrorist organization, funded by Christians. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #23 November 18, 2008 QuoteI think it would depend on HOW they are religious rather than which religion they belong to agreed - I wouldn't want an extreme: christian, muslim, atheist, enviromentalist, abortionist, etc from any of today's religions - trendy or traditional. I don't even want my candidate to be too extreme in the political party he's in. Although, I think the most dangerous and potentially damaging religion today is the 'green' religion. I'd just like someone "extremely" frugal, and extremely practical. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
434 2 #24 November 18, 2008 QuoteI'd rather they weren't religious at all. Agree totally! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #25 November 18, 2008 I think it would bother me if I found out that a presidential candidate was a young earth creationist, ie, believes that Earth is only 6000 years old & humans co-existed with dinosaurs like on the Flintstones. You may ask what does paleontology have to do with being a President, but from my perspective, it seems to me that someone who believes that stuff is someone who clings to ideology over reality, in spite of massive evidence to the contrary, and I wouldn't want someone like that in office. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites