What I hope the GOP does now

[TheAnvil 0]

Now that the GOP has lost the election - though not done too badly in the popular vote; one small ray of sunshine on a dark as fucking HELL election day - here's some things I hope they DON'T do during the tenure of President Obama:

- Emulate the Democrats and make FUCKING IDIOTS of themselves during confirmation hearings for Cabinet members. Consider each one on their merits. The President has a right to a cabinet of his choice and political views don't make one unsuitable unless those views are so extreme it's detrimental to the character of the nominee and the country as well.
- Hold up floor votes for all judicial nominees. That was goat fuck stupid when the Dems did it and it would be goat fuck stupid if Republicans do it for them. The Dems won't return the favor later, but that's not the point.
- Borking. It was despicable for Robert Bork. It was despicable for Judge Pickering. It will be despicable of Republicans do it for any of Obama's nominees. See my first comment above. Perhaps I repeat myself in my current state of utter disgust. The Dems won't return the favor later, but again it isn't the point.

A couple things I hope they DO:

- I hope they filibuster to the death any legislation that would enact the following:
- the end of the secret ballot in union elections
- A return of the Fairness Doctrine
- A tax code punishing the wealthy, businesses, entrepreneurs, achievers
- More federal government in government schools
- Universal healthcare
- Cap-and-trade policies on coal (no nuclear power, no drilling)
- nationalization of any industry or company
- Principles. Get back to conservative principles.
- Cajones. Grow some. WHen the Marxists attack - like the Trent Lott bullshit - come back at them with equal furor; and facts.

Among other things.

I'm going to work out, cook dinner, and read a book. Even typing about politics is fucking disgusting to me right now.

Vinny the Anvil
Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL
JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

[SpeedRacer 1]

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one small ray of sunshine on a dark as fucking HELL election day

Turn on the news & see how the USA & the world is reacting. It isn't all dark.

Internationally it could work out really well for us, since foreign leaders will be able to cooperate with us without worrying about getting voted out of office in their next election.


On another note:


Hey, I hear rumors that Sarah Palin might run for Republican President in 2012! Won't that be nice?

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you're gunna give yourself a bloody coronary Vinne

You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky)
My Life ROCKS!
How's yours doing?

[TheAnvil 0]

Glad they're happy. I'm not.

[barf]

Vinny the Anvil
Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL
JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

[gjhdiver 0]

Sack it up dude. You've enjoyed gloating at liberals for the last eight years. Now it's your turn to go lick your wounds. Last night was a transcendent night in US history, and the GOP were rightly repudiated for the eight years of mismanagement and deceptions they indulged in. If they have any sense, they'll go away, do the necessary bloodletting, and return as a real party with values, not just a shadow of them.

Last night, the US elected a bona fide unashamed liberal. The pendulum has swung back left. Enjoy the ride. The GOP had all three branches of the government for 6 out of the last eight years, and fucked it up royally. Did you really think that the GOP had a chance this time around ?

As for the majority in the Senate, the Democrats already have enough seats with the independents and Democratic voting republicans like Arlen Specter and Olympia Snow to break any filibusters. At least two of the outstanding four senate races will probably go to Democrats too. Hopefully, the judicial appointments will now start flowing.

It ain't the end of the world, just the end of the Reagan era republicans, and not before time. The world is ready to work with America again now. It's gonna be OK.

[idrankwhat 0]

I was going to reply about where the Republican party went wrong. But I know it won't be well received coming from me.
Besides, this guy says it better. Maybe it will jog some memories about what the Republican party used to represent.

[nerdgirl 0]

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...Besides, this guy says it better. ...

I'm a big fan of former Rep Edwards (R-OK). He smart, pragmatic, bi-partisan, and highly critical of anti-intellectualism in some (not all) parts of the Republican party of the late 20th/early 21st Century. To paraphrase Rep Edwards, being thoughtful, reflective, and educated should not be characterized as a 'bad' thing.

Marg

Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters.
Tibetan Buddhist saying

[kallend 2,150]

I hope they extract themselves from the clutch of the religious right.

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[TheAnvil 0]

Transcendent? Horrid or abominable would be my adjective of choice. To quote a true left winger, a day that will live in infamy.

I've stated what I hope the GOP do and that's exactly how I'd like them to proceed. Especially with regards to judicial nominees and getting back to conservative principles. What the leftists did was bullshit. They know it, but their far too great cowards to admit it.

You're happy with the results. I'm glad you're happy. I'm not.

[barf]

Vinny the Anvil
Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL
JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

[shropshire 0]

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You're happy with the results. I'm glad you're happy. I'm not.

But isn't that nature of contests? The trick is to get over it, regroup and play better next time.

(.)Y(.)
Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[Belgian_Draft 0]

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I hope they extract themselves from the clutch of the religious right.

God still loves you and will forgive that remark.

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[shropshire 0]

(.)Y(.)
Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[masterblaster72 0]

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You're happy with the results. I'm glad you're happy. I'm not.

[barf]

Oh I see...so NOW you tell us.

Seriously though, if I remember correctly, don't you work in the military contracting business? If so, are you afraid you're going to lose your job in the coming months?

Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up.

[rushmc 23]

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You're happy with the results. I'm glad you're happy. I'm not.

[barf]

Oh I see...so NOW you tell us.

Seriously though, if I remember correctly, don't you work in the military contracting business? If so, are you afraid you're going to lose your job in the coming months?

Prediction

Very few changes will come because of the new pres.
Did anyone notice the "slight" change in his statements when he started getting the intel briefs the current pres gets? Keep a listen keep and eye.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rehmwa 2]

Actually, I like Vinnie's list and it's a good set of changes. Move to a fiscal conservative position, and hold the line away from socialism. Don't be obstructionist on issues that don't relate to those.

Also, I like the sense of Kallend's note too, without the usual insultive spin - The GOP needs to disengage from their equivalently liberal social agenda and redefine back to the fiscal conservatives they should be. We now have two parties that just spend on any subjective no value, economy destroying concepts. One is enough.

As far as the 'us vs them' responses, you guys just don't get it at all.

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[rehmwa 2]

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the end of the Reagan era republicans,

that happened with the phrase "compassionate conservativism" which essentially means, "look, I'm more liberal than the other team"

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[Channman 2]

> Hey, I hear rumors that Sarah Palin might run for Republican President in 2012! Won't that be nice?

Not what I'm hearing, more likely the Senate. Although it is possible she might be a US Senator prior depending on the out come of the Criminal Proceedings against the current Alaska Senator.

[JohnnyD 0]

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A couple things I hope they DO:

- I hope they filibuster to the death any legislation that would enact the following:

- Universal healthcare

I know its knit-picky, but I can't reconcile in my own mind how someone could put their very life on the line for America's citizens and yet be against universal healthcare. It just doesn't make sense to me.

[livendive 8]

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- Principles. Get back to conservative principles.

Can you expand on what you consider those to be? And tell me how many decades we'd have to go back to find them in either of the big political parties?

Blues,
Dave

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(drink Mountain Dew)

[JohnnyD 0]

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- Principles. Get back to conservative principles.

Can you expand on what you consider those to be? And tell me how many decades we'd have to go back to find them in either of the big political parties?

Blues,
Dave

Great question.
I think of conservative principles in two ways:
1. Small gov't, financial responsibility
2. Religious values and possible legislation of same.

I agree completely with #1, but the GOP has apparently abandoned these principles.
I disagree completely with #2, but the GOP seems to be steadfast in its commitment to legislate my life choices.

I'd been a republican for a long time, but during the 42nd and 43rd presidencies, it seems that the parties platforms have been traded off.

[rehmwa 2]

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I think of conservative principles in two ways:

1. Small gov't, financial responsibility
2. Religious values and possible legislation of same.

I think you are off on #2. True conservative would just delete #2

But that does describe how conservatism has been hijacked.

Reps
1 - big government, no real idea of personal financial responsibility
2 - interference in social life through legislation to a particular social agenda

Dems
1 - big government, total disregard and disdain of the the idea of personal financial responsibility
2 - interference in social life through legislation to a particular social agenda (just different topics than the reps, but the same in the long run)

So the reps have completely lost their way and are now wrong, wrong, wrong,
dems are just wrong, but at least on purpose

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[Misslmperfect 0]

ok - i have 2 questions, but instead of making new threads, yadda yadda, i think they fit just fine w/in this one.

1.) what exactly are the republican party's core principles and values? and i don't mean the convoluted minority's extreme views that get all the airplay. i know that's not a true representation of the party itself.

and for that matter, how do moderate republicans feel about religion taking the reigns of their party? is it really still expected, given the diversity of the country's population, that we remain so true to Christian values? my biggest issue with American politics has always been, how do you get a country of various cultures, religions, ethnicities, etc to rally around a person who is so insistent that we uphold only one belief system? you can't deny the worth of such a vast number of peoples' values and expect them to support you...just my opinion though...

2.) is sarah palin really the person the majority of the party wants to groom for leadership in the coming years? why isn't ron paul a better choice? i, as liberal as i am (and many of my equally liberal friends), really like that guy.

Oh Canada, merci pour la livraison!

[Laszloimage 0]

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The GOP had all three branches of the government for 6 out of the last eight years, and fucked it up royally

Agree!
I don't understand why conservatives are bitching about "fukin' liberals" whend they had all power to make things the way they wanted to for 6years!!!
...and even after 2006 Bush still vetoed every bill initiated by Democrats what could have helped a lot.
...I guess we've seen the result of the GOP's rule.
Economic crisis, never ending war, bad foreing relations, and so on. And don't even make me start about their real fucked up Evangelical Christian agenda!
It was really a "Time for change" I hope they'll actually really make it happen.

[lawrocket 3]

I am curious about this. When the Dems fail at things, will they blame the Republicans again for blocking every significant piece of legislation?

While there are some issues that certainly have me concerned about Obama, I believe that he is smart enough to remember what happened to Clinton in his first two years when he and Congress tried doing too much.

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[kallend 2,150]

It's disappointing that your list is all about thwarting the newly elected (by the people of the USA) administration and congress. What the GOP should be doing is thinking about why the people repudiated it, and how to fix itself to be appealing to the center rather than to the extreme right.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.