quade 4 #1 November 5, 2008 Amendment 12 US Constitution Ok, so this will be a joint session of Congress wherein the official announcement is made. Here's the question; who's going to do it? Tradition says it's the President of the Senate, but on several occasions the President pro tempore of the Senate has done it. Will Cheney step up to the mic?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elisha 1 #2 November 5, 2008 Wouldn't this be 2009? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #3 November 5, 2008 QuoteWouldn't this be 2009? Crap . . . I do that on checks too!quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Misslmperfect 0 #4 November 5, 2008 every time i think i have this electoral college business down, i don't. i thought the numbers on all the networks (ex: NPR - 162 mccain, 349 obama), with "electoral college" above it were the votes cast by the electoral college? then someone on here said that those were votes for electors for the EC? is the EC legally or otherwise bound to vote according to their respective states' popular votes? wikipedia did what i thought was a good job of explaining this, but now i'm not so sure. boo. je suis très confus(e?)! -thought i'd work on my french while i'm at this learning business! 2 fer 1 Oh Canada, merci pour la livraison! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stitch 0 #5 November 5, 2008 Simply yes. They are bound to cast their ballots however their district voted. The Electoral College is really just a big dog and pony show."No cookies for you"- GFD "I don't think I like the sound of that" ~ MB65 Don't be a "Racer Hater" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #6 November 5, 2008 I'm against dog & pony shows.Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #7 November 5, 2008 Quoteevery time i think i have this electoral college business down, i don't. It's ok, most people have it rather screwed up in their heads and I've had to revisit references just to make certain I'm not fully of hooie too. Because of the wording of the US Constitution, each state is allowed to come up with a completely different system of deciding Electors and if they will count for all or part of the vote total. Most states are "winner take all," some are not. In either case, the voting that takes place on the first Tuesday of November needs to be certified by the state (which is why Florida was able to delay things in 2000) and gets called in to the Nation's capital on the first Monday after the second Wednesday of December (which became Florida's deadline for clearing up the mess). At that point we actually have a President Elect and certain other provisions of the US Constitution kick in. On January 6, the President of the Senate (or his replacement) then reads them in front of a joint session of Congress and the whole thing is then "official."quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #8 November 5, 2008 Quote Wouldn't this be 2009? That's your problem, Quade-stop living in the pastYeah, I finally start getting it right on checks in AugustYou are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Misslmperfect 0 #9 November 5, 2008 gotcha. so it's not like they'll actually be casting a vote that day..just making the vote they've already cast "official". that's what threw me - how can one candidate concede and another accept if the EC hasn't even VOTED yet...now it's all becoming a bit more clear. ..."hooie" is a good word...Oh Canada, merci pour la livraison! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #10 November 5, 2008 Quotegotcha. so it's not like they'll actually be casting a vote that day..just making the vote they've already cast "official". that's what threw me - how can one candidate concede and another accept if the EC hasn't even VOTED yet...now it's all becoming a bit more clear. ..."hooie" is a good word... Actually, it IS possible for electors to change their vote before the final tally is given! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_elector Quote On 158 occasions, electors have cast their votes for President or Vice President in a manner different from that prescribed by the legislature of the state they represented. Of those, 71 votes were changed because the original candidate died before the elector was able to cast a vote. Two votes were not cast at all when electors chose to abstain from casting their electoral vote for any candidate. The remaining 85 were changed by the elector's personal interest, or perhaps by accident. Usually, the faithless electors act alone. An exception was in 1836 when 23 Virginia electors changed their vote together. Pretty rare and would be a major scandal if it happened in modern times for a capricious reason.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #11 November 5, 2008 QuoteQuote Pretty rare and would be a major scandal if it happened in modern times for a capricious reason. I would have thought that they cast their vote from a "group conscious" point, therefore if the majority of the group (state) vote was not carried forward, would there not be repercussions??You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites stitch 0 #12 November 6, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuote Pretty rare and would be a major scandal if it happened in modern times for a capricious reason. I would have thought that they cast their vote from a "group conscious" point, therefore if the majority of the group (state) vote was not carried forward, would there not be repercussions??Hopefully, the guilty party would be deported to Gitmo."No cookies for you"- GFD "I don't think I like the sound of that" ~ MB65 Don't be a "Racer Hater" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,150 #13 November 6, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote Pretty rare and would be a major scandal if it happened in modern times for a capricious reason. I would have thought that they cast their vote from a "group conscious" point, therefore if the majority of the group (state) vote was not carried forward, would there not be repercussions??Hopefully, the guilty party would be deported to Gitmo. I wouldn't be very hopeful if I were being deported to Gitmo.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites futuredivot 0 #14 November 6, 2008 Quote Pretty rare and would be a major scandal if it happened in modern times for a capricious reason. Does Red Bull want the White House?You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TheAnvil 0 #15 November 6, 2008 I think he'll step up to the mic himself. Don't really give a rat's ass. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
stitch 0 #12 November 6, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuote Pretty rare and would be a major scandal if it happened in modern times for a capricious reason. I would have thought that they cast their vote from a "group conscious" point, therefore if the majority of the group (state) vote was not carried forward, would there not be repercussions??Hopefully, the guilty party would be deported to Gitmo."No cookies for you"- GFD "I don't think I like the sound of that" ~ MB65 Don't be a "Racer Hater" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,150 #13 November 6, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote Pretty rare and would be a major scandal if it happened in modern times for a capricious reason. I would have thought that they cast their vote from a "group conscious" point, therefore if the majority of the group (state) vote was not carried forward, would there not be repercussions??Hopefully, the guilty party would be deported to Gitmo. I wouldn't be very hopeful if I were being deported to Gitmo.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites futuredivot 0 #14 November 6, 2008 Quote Pretty rare and would be a major scandal if it happened in modern times for a capricious reason. Does Red Bull want the White House?You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TheAnvil 0 #15 November 6, 2008 I think he'll step up to the mic himself. Don't really give a rat's ass. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
kallend 2,150 #13 November 6, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote Pretty rare and would be a major scandal if it happened in modern times for a capricious reason. I would have thought that they cast their vote from a "group conscious" point, therefore if the majority of the group (state) vote was not carried forward, would there not be repercussions??Hopefully, the guilty party would be deported to Gitmo. I wouldn't be very hopeful if I were being deported to Gitmo.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites futuredivot 0 #14 November 6, 2008 Quote Pretty rare and would be a major scandal if it happened in modern times for a capricious reason. Does Red Bull want the White House?You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TheAnvil 0 #15 November 6, 2008 I think he'll step up to the mic himself. Don't really give a rat's ass. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
futuredivot 0 #14 November 6, 2008 Quote Pretty rare and would be a major scandal if it happened in modern times for a capricious reason. Does Red Bull want the White House?You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #15 November 6, 2008 I think he'll step up to the mic himself. Don't really give a rat's ass. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
