How long will Obama survive?

[diablopilot 2]

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Oh, BTW, here's a somewhat gruesome trivia question; who would be President of the US if Obama were to be assassinated today?

That decision would be left up to our wonderful Electoral College.

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[akarunway 1]

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Hate to say it but the chances of him making it to the end of his term in office can't be that good. How long do you think it will take some wack job or highly organised organisation/ Terrorist group (of any description) to kill him?
Also how will they do it? Gun, Bomb, Poison, Knife,Other.

Guarantee he'll be the biggest job the SS ever had. If it happens it will sure be an inside job. Kinda like JFK.

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

[Halfpastniner 0]

I think the only logical answer is for Bush to keep the reigns for 4 more years


*running away now*

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[diablopilot 2]

JFK is alive and well hanging with Elvis in the South Pacific.

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Oh, BTW, here's a somewhat gruesome trivia question; who would be President of the US if Obama were to be assassinated today?

That decision would be left up to our wonderful Electoral College.

That is by no means clear. At least not in the Constitution.

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The World's Most Boring Skydiver

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Those are accurate over mile out and can punch through half inch steel.

Not quite. They are as accurate as the shooter. Contrary to the uneducated belief, it is extremely difficult to accurately fire a weapon that far. Its much much more than simply using a high powered scope and placing the cross hairs on a target.

The models that are off the shelf accurate for shots close to what you think they can do cost around $14,000. An optic to match that would be used for a shot like you think people can do, costs many thousands of dollars as well. Now at $3.00 to 5.00 a single round for "plink" ammo, I can see how you're concerned that neo-nazi you saw at Wal-Mart could pull this off.

People watch too many movies and think that they're true!

I'm not certain it takes a weapon, range or skill equal to what we've just talked about in order to make an attempt and be successful at it.

No matter what conspiracy theory you want to believe about the JFK assassination, none to my knowledge requires a weapon, range or skill that high and there also doesn't seem to be any that are limited to handguns at close range.

So it's certainly possible.

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[AggieDave 6]

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So it's certainly possible.

I don't disagree. I was disagreeing with that previous poster who thinks the 50BMG is some sort of magical weapon that instantly turns people into super snipers that can make world-record kill shots.

If that was true, then the "ninja throwing stars" that some people like to buy would instantly make them into a Ninja. My 1911 would turn me into Col. Jeff Cooper and buying a Velocity would turn you into JaMo.

People's uneducated and thus unrealistic understanding of firearms in general is impressively bad!

It does not, however, take any training or intelligence to get lucky. It simply takes a lot of luck. Fortunately for the US, the Secret Service and all the other LEOs involved have trained a lot of the luck out of their tactics and abilities.

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[downwardspiral 0]

Keep in mind the Lee Harvey Oswald was only about 80 yards away with a scoped rifle. For a marksman, a very easy shot to make.

During combat range training in the Marines I has able to hit the stick held by another Marine that was holding the target at 100 yards with an normally sighted M16. And I'm no Carlos Hathcock.

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[akarunway 1]

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The current speaker of the house would assume the role until the Senate could vote in a new President.

Is that right, its been a while since I've read up on minute trivia like this.

Nope! The truth is . . . NOBODY KNOWS! There is no provision for what happens before the Electoral Collage meets in December.

I was thinking a whole new election. NOW THAT'S SCARY.

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

[kapaso 0]

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So it's certainly possible.

I don't disagree. I was disagreeing with that previous poster who thinks the 50BMG is some sort of magical weapon that instantly turns people into super snipers that can make world-record kill shots.

If that was true, then the "ninja throwing stars" that some people like to buy would instantly make them into a Ninja. My 1911 would turn me into Col. Jeff Cooper and buying a Velocity would turn you into JaMo.

People's uneducated and thus unrealistic understanding of firearms in general is impressively bad!

It does not, however, take any training or intelligence to get lucky. It simply takes a lot of luck. Fortunately for the US, the Secret Service and all the other LEOs involved have trained a lot of the luck out of their tactics and abilities.

I noticed the barriers and figured that is what they were
there for. All the BS about how easy it would be and how I figured "a neo-nazi from Wal-mart could do it" and the ".50 caliber was magic" was from you.

Are you a tactical tool? Sounds like it.

[AggieDave 6]

My comments were based on your apparent desire to have a weapon banned on an unrealistic belief. Sorry if some truth ruffled your feathers.

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[akarunway 1]

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Those are accurate over mile out and can punch through half inch steel.

Not quite. They are as accurate as the shooter. Contrary to the uneducated belief, it is extremely difficult to accurately fire a weapon that far. Its much much more than simply using a high powered scope and placing the cross hairs on a target.

The models that are off the shelf accurate for shots close to what you think they can do cost around $14,000. An optic to match that would be used for a shot like you think people can do, costs many thousands of dollars as well. Now at $3.00 to 5.00 a single round for "plink" ammo, I can see how you're concerned that neo-nazi you saw at Wal-Mart could pull this off.

People watch too many movies and think that they're true!

For 12K a good shot has half a chance. >http://www.barrettrifles.com/rifle_82.aspx That's rifle and scope

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

[AggieDave 6]

Dude, what a steal, I'll take 2 of them!

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

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My comments were based on your apparent desire to have a weapon banned on an unrealistic belief. Sorry if some truth ruffled your feathers.

What are you talking about? You are making alot of wrong assumptions and calling them truths.

Here's some truth for you. I shoot both handguns and shotguns on a regular basis. I never advocated and do not advocate banning the .50 caliber. I never posted "anyone" could make a mile shot, just that the gun is capable of it.

Next time you need to tell me "some truths" change the word "truths" to BS for the sake of accuracy.

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I think the major threat comes from someone with a .50 caliber rifle. Those are accurate over mile out and can punch through half inch steel.

Well, the assumption about punching through half inch steel depends on the ammo used and their ability to be accurate over [a] mile out is completely up to the ability of the shooter. What is your solution, then if its not the implied ban on the caliber?

At this point why wouldn't a major threat simply be a shoulder fired stinger or maybe a mortar attack? I really think its about as likely as someone purchasing a 50BMG, putting a scope on it then taking an accurate shot from over a mile out through half-inch steel.

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[stitch 0]

Until he's forced to eat British food.

"No cookies for you"- GFD
"I don't think I like the sound of that" ~ MB65
Don't be a "Racer Hater"

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Thank you Mr. Brit for making the suggestion the morning after OUR election.

I don't think it will happen. Although President Obama ( I LIKE the sound of that...) is the charismatic type that draws loonies out of the woodwork, I think the Secret Service has learned a lot from incidents in the past. Aside from the Kennedy assasination, there have been near two misses with Gerald Ford, and then Ronal Reagan and several other people were shot by one kid with a revolver. And nothing of the kind has happened since, not in 27 years.

I tried to go to an event at Boeing with Vice President Gore and couldn't even get into the building because I was carrying a Swiss Army pocketknife. Those guys do NOT fool around.

And by the way, I think people really talk too lightly about this subject. Those of us who are old enough to remember the assasination of President Kennedy, as well as Martin Luther King and Robert Kennedy, all remember who intensely painful those events were. It's nothing to joke about and I find it rather offensive the way people treat the subject.

It's NOT the American way.

Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity !

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I'm shocked to see how many people had images of Obama being shot during his speech.

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The thread started as a quasi-topic and devolved to
tasteless discussion of the most effective technique.

It seems like this is a special case in the thread-deletion guidelines.

Kind of like having diarrhea and projectile vomiting at the same time. We have arrived at a new low in the spinning, sprinkler of the internet.

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Dude, what a steal, I'll take 2 of them!

You have an accomplice or three. Ya need two good spotters too.

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

[Skyrad 0]

And there has been a host of assainations around the world since. Bottom line is he is a target or desired target of allot of people including allot of people in your country. I hope he dies an old fart in bed but its a possibility so why not discuss it.

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
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Kind of like having diarrhea and projectile vomiting at the same time. We have arrived at a new low in the spinning, sprinkler of the internet.

I might use that as a tag line

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

[rushmc 23]

I really hope a long time.

He is, along with Pelosi and Reid, the R's best hope for the mid terms and for 2012 elections

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[skybill 22]

Hi rad,
Good question. There are several issues to take into consideration. Give him a little while to let the "Fluff" wear off and see how well he is "liked/hated" across the country?? Barry talks "change" and all that good political shit but JFK he's not. "However," like JFK, if he steps on too many toes, lookout!! "Where were you in NOV63 when JFK got hit??" I was comming out of Prof. Mayfield's BA 141 Class at SLC when a guy I knew came up to me all elated and announced that,"Kennedy has been shot!!" I went into shock!! I walked over to the Student Union and it was on TV!! The thing that got me was that people organized "Kennedy Assination Parties!!" that night!! I didn't go to any but the booz flowed in Hammond where I lived and New Orleans and Baton Rouge too! I don't know where else but I'm sure there are many testamonies!! These people didn't kill him but they may as well have!! If people get that same kind of hatred twords Barry, he doesn't have a chance.

SCR-2034, SCS-680

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Deli-out

[TheAnvil 0]

I hope he lasts four years in office and then is voted out handily, then subsequently grows old watching his kids grow up.

Vinny the Anvil
Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL
JACKASS POWER!!!!!!