quade 4 #1 October 31, 2008 Ok, James Bond currently uses a Walther P99. There is a "special edition" of the weapon known as the Mi6 in honor of this. Is that a 9mm or .40SW? I'm assuming the 9mm since it's Euro, but I want to be accurate in a piece I'm writing.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #2 October 31, 2008 I thought he used the Walther PPK. http://www.universalexports.net/00Walther.shtml 9mmSo I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #3 October 31, 2008 Quote I thought he used the Walther PPK. http://www.universalexports.net/00Walther.shtml 9mm From the first paragraph of that link - "For 33 years, the PPK would be Bond's gun of choice until Tomorrow Never Dies when it was replaced by the Walther P99."Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertime24 8 #4 October 31, 2008 They are made in both 9mm and .40 smith. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walther_P99Muff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #5 October 31, 2008 QuoteIs that a 9mm or .40SW? Wickipedia indicates it's 9mm. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_James_Bond_firearms And I know you just love Wickipedia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #6 October 31, 2008 QuoteQuoteIs that a 9mm or .40SW? Wickipedia indicates it's 9mm. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_James_Bond_firearms And I know you just love Wickipedia. Hehe . . . especially for "controversial" subjects like this. I'm going to say it's the 9mm. Sure it's available in both, but the .40SW seems too . . . American. Pretty sure nobody but a true gun nut is going to say the 9mm is underpowered for Bond. Besides which, the extra bullets will come in handy during extended gun fight scenes where he doesn't reload.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #7 October 31, 2008 QuoteI thought he used the Walther PPK. http://www.universalexports.net/00Walther.shtml 9mm The PPK was, in fact, the gun Ian Flemming picked for Bond to use, but that was over 50 years ago and the movie producers updated it quite a long time ago. Just for shits and giggles, the PPK does make a reappearance in the next Bond movie as well, but the P99 is still Bond's main weapon.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #8 October 31, 2008 QuoteThe PPK was, in fact, the gun Ian Flemming picked for Bond to use Not quite. The Berretta 418 was the gun that Ian Flemming picked for Bond. That was due to Flemming's experience in Naval Intelligence where he used to carry a pocket .25acp. It was other people that prodded Flemming for using a "lady gun" with such a masculine character that caused Flemming to change to the PPK.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #9 October 31, 2008 Right . . . so Flemming picked the PPK. This bit about the Berretta actually makes an appearance in both the books and the movies, although somewhat out of order in the movies. In Dr. No. M calls Bond on the carpet for using the Berretta and I don't recall if it's M or the armorer (not Q!) that uses the "ladies gun" line, but M threatens to pull Bond out of field duty if he doesn't switch.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #10 October 31, 2008 Quote Right . . . so Flemming picked the PPK. Kind of. I'm a little rusty on my Bond Trivia, but if I remember correctly it was another author and a fan of Flemming's that recommended Bond carry a PPK. Either way, it really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. I wonder how many Bond fans even know that he carried something other than a PPK in the beginning? Probably a small-ish percentage. Next week lets argue about some more obscure information about some other fictional character.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #11 October 31, 2008 Quote Next week lets argue about some more obscure information about some other fictional character. Star Trek or Harry Potter . . . it's up to you!quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #12 October 31, 2008 QuoteKind of. I'm a little rusty on my Bond Trivia, but if I remember correctly it was another author and a fan of Flemming's that recommended Bond carry a PPK. I don't know who suggested it, but it's in Dr. No (the 6th novel) that Fleming has Q tell Bond to switch to the PPK after (in From Russia With Love) Bond shoots Rosa Klebb with the Beretta, but she still manages to kick him with her poisoned shoe before dying. This lack of stopping power with the Beretta is the cause for the change (in the books).Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #13 October 31, 2008 QuoteRight . . . so Flemming picked the PPK. This bit about the Berretta actually makes an appearance in both the books and the movies, although somewhat out of order in the movies. In Dr. No. M calls Bond on the carpet for using the Berretta and I don't recall if it's M or the armorer (not Q!) that uses the "ladies gun" line, but M threatens to pull Bond out of field duty if he doesn't switch. Dr. No was the first movie - the Berretta is written out of the 007 world in the first 10 minutes of the series. It jammed, got him laid up in the hospital as a consequence. P99 is definitely 9mm if not otherwise specified. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #14 October 31, 2008 Quote Star Trek or Harry Potter . . . it's up to you! Both work for me, but for Star Trek I'm kind of limited to the movies, TNG and Voyager.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #15 October 31, 2008 Quote Quote Star Trek or Harry Potter . . . it's up to you! Both work for me, but for Star Trek I'm kind of limited to the movies, TNG and Voyager. Ugh - 50% crappy movies, a cheese eating surrender monkey, and a monstrousity. Meanwhile you can see reruns of TOS all over the place, so what's the excuse? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #16 October 31, 2008 I could never get into TOS. TNG is by far my favorite...well, not the first season, that had horrible writing, but after that it picked up well.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elisha 1 #17 November 1, 2008 Quote Bond shoots Rosa Klebb with the Beretta, but she still manages to kick him with her poisoned shoe before dying. This lack of stopping power with the Beretta is the cause for the change (in the books). Was that the book (sorry, never read them)? I don't remember her actually striking him - just attempting too. Either that or the kick was so feeble that the blade/needle didn't even prick skin to inject any poison. I just don't remember Bond being affected. I think I have the movie - I can pop it in to verify. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #18 November 1, 2008 it won't show up in the movie. The beretta is already gone one movie prior. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #19 November 1, 2008 Quoteit won't show up in the movie. The beretta is already gone one movie prior. Yeah, they made the movies out of order from the books. The issue with the Beretta is in From Russia with Love in the books, but the switch to the PPK happens (correctly) in Dr. No, the first Bond film.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #20 November 1, 2008 Quote Was that the book (sorry, never read them)? ...but it's in Dr. No (the 6th novel) ...This lack of stopping power with the Beretta is the cause for the change (in the books). Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elisha 1 #21 November 1, 2008 Quoteit won't show up in the movie. The beretta is already gone one movie prior. I was talking about the kicking, not the Beretta. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #22 November 1, 2008 QuoteQuoteit won't show up in the movie. The beretta is already gone one movie prior. I was talking about the kicking, not the Beretta. He stops her with a chair, and goes on to screwing the cuter Russian. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #23 November 1, 2008 QuoteQuoteI thought he used the Walther PPK. http://www.universalexports.net/00Walther.shtml 9mm The PPK was, in fact, the gun Ian Flemming picked for Bond to use, but that was over 50 years ago... ..., the PPK does make a reappearance in the next Bond movie as well, but the P99 is still Bond's main weapon. I'm pretty sure the armourer said "Walther PPK, 7.65mm" as he handed Bond a Mauser HSC I'm pretty sure that Bond's gun "remains" a Walther PPK(Pistole Parabellum Klein) regardless of what he's actually carrying!? Robbie Coltrane with Pierce Brosnan cocking a gun to his head; "Ahh... Walther PPK, 7.63mm. Only two people use them, and I remember killing one of them." Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #24 November 1, 2008 While he may occasionally carry the PPK, if you look at most of the action scenes in which a gun is being used, it's the P99. The P99 is the superior weapon in all respects except 1, the ability to be concealed. The PPK is considerably smaller, lighter and thinner which means that it works a bit better with a tuxedo and possibly a silencer, but otherwise, the P99 is much, much better in terms of actual use and bad-ass looks. The PPK is really something that should be associated with the earlier films and probably left there with the Aston Martin DB5.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #25 November 1, 2008 Quote Plus the gas caps are painted to tell us what fuel it needs. You left out the goofy design of the slide which makes it hard to grip quickly in a high stress situation.I'll stick with my Kimber any day of the week.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites