skyjumpsteve 0 #1 October 27, 2008 I don't think these punks would have been succesful in their plot to kill Obama but thankfully they got stopped before their plan to go on a killing spree at a school. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27405681/ WASHINGTON - A plot by two Neo-Nazi skinheads to assassinate Barack Obama and kill dozens of other African Americans has been foiled, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms said Monday. Daniel Cowart, 20, of Bells, Tenn., and Paul Schlesselman, 18, of West Helena, Ark., were charged Friday with making threats against a presidential candidate, illegal possession of a sawed-off shotgun and conspiracy to rob a gun store. In court records unsealed Monday, agents said they disrupted plans that included robbing a gun store and targeting an unnamed but predominantly African-American high school. The two men were arrested in Crockett County, Tenn., and have already made a court appearance. The plot unraveled when one of the men was arrested on other charges and in the course of interviews he revealed plans for the plot. According to the court records, the pair discussed robbing a gun shop in order to gather weapons and ammunition to use in a "killing spree." The defendants allegedly further discussed their killing spree to include targeting a predominately African-American school, and to continue their spree until it culminated with an attempt to assassinate Obama. Check back for details on this breaking news report. The Associated Press contributed to this report. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #2 October 27, 2008 Glad they were caught. Hope they spend a long time in prison; however, what do you think their chances would have been on the assassination? The school shooting they probably could have pulled off, but they don't sound bright enough to get beyond that.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,110 #3 October 27, 2008 >however, what do you think their chances would have been on the >assassination? Historically? Maybe 1 in 50. 1 in 10 if they are very, very good (and these guys don't sound very good.) I don't worry about these types as much as I worry about the would-be killers who are smart enough _not_ to be caught. Two plots have been foiled already; that suggests to me that there are more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #4 October 27, 2008 I don't think they could have pulled off the robbery of the gun store.www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #5 October 27, 2008 We are certainly fortunate that for the most part smart people aren't criminals. These guys decide to comit a crime to enable a bigger crime.Of course some politicians can't figure out how to lie believably about home renovations. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,110 #6 October 27, 2008 >We are certainly fortunate that for the most part smart people aren't criminals. They are. The smart ones don't get caught - so you don't read about them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #7 October 27, 2008 Quote We are certainly fortunate that for the most part smart people aren't criminals. These guys decide to comit a crime to enable a bigger crime.Of course some politicians can't figure out how to lie believably about home renovations. It could be that the smart criminals not only don't get caught, but people don't even realize a crime occurred. These guys seem about as clueless as the people arrested for trying to blow up the Sears Tower.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #8 October 27, 2008 Quote It's not like everyone at the gun show is running around with a loaded weapon. It may have ended something like this: http://www.snopes.com/crime/dumdum/gunshop.asp--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #9 October 27, 2008 The thing that worries me is that it isn't as simple as just smart or dumb criminals. Usually people who try to assassinate the President (successfully or unsuccessfully) are whackos. John Hinckley came VERY VERY close to killing Reagan. If he had succeeded there would have been all kinds of conspiracy theories about it, but the truth is, Hinckley was just a nutcase who got very (nearly) lucky. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #10 October 27, 2008 Glad these two fucktards were caught. I don't think they had a chance in hell at assassinating Obama. Far too fucking stupid to pull off something like that. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #11 October 27, 2008 Quote If he had succeeded there would have been all kinds of conspiracy theories about it, but the truth is, Hinckley was just a nutcase who got very (nearly) lucky. Or at least, that's what THEY want you to believe. quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #12 October 27, 2008 Quote Quote If he had succeeded there would have been all kinds of conspiracy theories about it, but the truth is, Hinckley was just a nutcase who got very (nearly) lucky. Or at least, that's what THEY want you to believe. Maybe it's all a hoax. Did anyone get an "M" carved in their cheek?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 334 #13 October 27, 2008 QuoteMaybe it's all a hoax. Did anyone get an "M" carved in their cheek? Forehead, not cheek. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #14 October 27, 2008 let that photo be a lesson to you. Support McCain, you're doomed to four years of really bad acne. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MegaGoliath11 0 #15 October 27, 2008 I know, damn dude someone get the man some stridex or accutane! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #16 October 27, 2008 Quote Glad these two fucktards were caught. I don't think they had a chance in hell at assassinating Obama. Far too fucking stupid to pull off something like that. Interesting comparison to your comments about another crime:... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #17 October 27, 2008 Funny that this guy hasn't jumped in with a condemnation. Or this one.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #18 October 28, 2008 Quote let that photo be a lesson to you. Support McCain, you're doomed to four years of really bad acne. I was thinking "man, that guy has an acne beard, that sucks for him...maybe he can pop a few and make it a goatee..."--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #19 October 28, 2008 Quotelet that photo be a lesson to you. Support McCain, you're doomed to four years of really bad acne. The McCain campaign was too cheap to use skin friendly adhesive on their bumper stickers. Obama's stickers do double duty as a nightly blackhead remover. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites