kallend 2,230 #1 October 25, 2008 ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iE4cdTy9SqWqAZZ1OI8FUDV08EuAD9411JG04 Good Christian values.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #2 October 25, 2008 There's the whole problem with The Roman Catholic Church in the first world. Any organisation which offers trust & respectability for outward celibacy will inevitably attract persons with socially unacceptable sexual deviancies & perversions. As such, I believe the Roman-Catholic Church should allow it's clergy to marry. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #3 October 25, 2008 There was a thread on this a few weeks back. There is alot of evidence that points to unstable people being attracted to the preisthood. Not to bash gays but the number joining the priesthood is said to be around 25% When I was 12 I spent a weekend at a seminary and the people there were some of the weirdest people I have ever met. Religion just has a way of bringing out the kooks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmytavino 16 #4 October 25, 2008 it is Fair and Proper. that these perpetrators at SOME point be exposed, and made to pay the consequences of their misdeeds... It's amazing to think that so FEW of them are ever charged, and taken to justice...by the HigherUps within their own local churches... some of the reason for that could very well be the Archaic, but stoutly adhered to, policy of catholicism, which creates some sort of perverted 'confidentiality' from within the Confessional Booth...For Example,,, a priest goes down a path of misbehavior,, crosses the line into sexual misdeeds, becomes a multiple offender, negatively impacting the lives of many innocents... and THEN.... enters the Confession Booth, when his Superior is the one hearing confessions... NOW under circumstances which are better, and Cheaper than hiring the Best attorneys in the land... They simply "spill their guts" to the superior, admitting their "indiscretions"... and BINGO!!! NOW because of this bond of silence.. the superior CANNOT divulge anything of the session, and cannot initiate disciplinary action against the creeps....and you can believe that many many old time priests would never betray that "trust"... regardless of the crime... ( especially if they TOO had a few skeletons in their own closets ) some system.....anyway that's just My take on it.... jt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maadmax 0 #5 October 25, 2008 Quoteap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iE4cdTy9SqWqAZZ1OI8FUDV08EuAD9411JG04 Good Christian values*** It is obvious from your post that you have no concept of what Good Christian values are. Instead of attacking something you don't understand, why don't you spend some effort to discover what is it that bothers you. Personally, I am very bothered by criminal behavior. ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,230 #6 October 25, 2008 Quote Personally, I am very bothered by criminal behavior. ... Good for you. And you should be particularly bothered that the criminal was a Christian PRIEST. Quoteyou have no concept of what Good Christian values are. Don't tell me what I know and don't know about Christianity. I spent 13 years being indoctrinated with Christian propaganda. I stupidly even believed it for a while, before I was old enough to see through the BS.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites miked10270 0 #7 October 25, 2008 QuoteQuoteap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iE4cdTy9SqWqAZZ1OI8FUDV08EuAD9411JG04 Good Christian values*** It is obvious from your post that you have no concept of what Good Christian values are... Then may I ask how you define your good Christian values? Are you a member or follower of a particular church or branch of Christianity? If so, does your Church define your values? or are you a Vaguely-Christian who tries to interpret his teachings personally and deliberately without guidance? Perhaps with hindsight Kallend may have stated "Good Catholic Values", but it is apparent that Un-Christian behaviour is certainly not confined to the Catholic Church. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites maadmax 0 #8 October 26, 2008 ----Then may I ask how you define your good Christian values? Christian wisdom produces love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self control. The Truth of any value is proven by the actions it inspires. ______________________________________ ----Are you a member or follower of a particular church or branch of Christianity? No _____________________________________ ----If so, does your Church define your values? or are you a Vaguely-Christian who tries to interpret his teachings personally and deliberately without guidance? I don't limit my learning. I am open to Spiritual Truth no matter what the source. _______________________________________ ---Perhaps with hindsight Kallend may have stated "Good Catholic Values", but it is apparent that Un-Christian behaviour is certainly not confined to the Catholic Church. Agreed, hindsight and some self-examination is definetly in order. .... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites miked10270 0 #9 October 26, 2008 Quote Christian wisdom produces love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self control. The Truth of any value is proven by the actions it inspires. I don't limit my learning. I am open to Spiritual Truth no matter what the source... So, I'm guessing that like so many of us, you have no problem believing in God, nor any problem in adhering to Christ's teachings, BUT major problems with organised religions and their attendant hypocricies.I doubt that you, Kallend & I are in disagreement -- which begs the question; What are we doing in SC!!?Regards, Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DFWAJG 4 #10 October 26, 2008 Getting married would not prevent child molesters from molesting children. They would just have access to their own children. http://www.psychohistory.com/htm/06a1_incest.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites maadmax 0 #11 October 27, 2008 --So, I'm guessing that like so many of us, you have no problem believing in God, nor any problem in adhering to Christ's teachings, BUT major problems with organised religions and their attendant hypocricies. Yes, well put. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,648 #12 October 27, 2008 QuoteChristian wisdom produces love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self control. The Truth of any value is proven by the actions it inspires. And what, exactly, is christian wisdom?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tbrown 26 #13 October 27, 2008 Quoteap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iE4cdTy9SqWqAZZ1OI8FUDV08EuAD9411JG04 Good Christian values. Has nothing to do with Christian values. I'm an Episcopalian and I'm going to stand up and say enough of the broad swipes against Christians in general. We're not all assholes. I'm also an ex-Catholic (born into it) and simply think that some of these Catholic Dioceses should be prosecuted under the RIOOH laws as organized criminal enterprises for the shell game they're playing to hide pedophile clergy AND their assets. That said, I'd also like to point out that a Protestant minister, once one of Dr MLK Jr's aids, was recently convicted of fucking his own teenage daughter - something that disgusts every cell of my Christian mind and body. So it's not just a Catholic problem either, though they've been getting most of the press. It has to do with the abuse of power, authority, and trust. It also happens with doctors, psychologists, cops, teachers. judges, and politicians. Just don't paint ME with the same brush ! Some us actually TRY to live like Christians. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnDeere 0 #14 October 27, 2008 QuoteQuote Personally, I am very bothered by criminal behavior. ... Good for you. And you should be particularly bothered that the criminal was a Christian PRIEST. Quoteyou have no concept of what Good Christian values are. Don't tell me what I know and don't know about Christianity. I spent 13 years being indoctrinated with Christian propaganda. I stupidly even believed it for a while, before I was old enough to see through the BS. So when will you be old enought to see through the liberal indoctrination bs?????Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites porpoishead 8 #15 October 27, 2008 those pedophile motherfuckers have been getting away with that shit for far too long. too bad the parents of some of the victims are so brainwashed from religious belief, that they forgive these atrocious crimes. it's simple for me, i don't believe in none of that stupid fucking bullshit. so i say burn the motherfuckers at the stake like they used to do during the inqusition times to their own..i bet them gay ass dresses and scarves they all wear would burn up in some pretty cool looking colors. I would pay-per view that shit. I don't make my children go to church. they were curious to go several times and went (catholic). I'll let them see what it's about they can draw their own conclusions when they are older. to each their own with that horse shit i say. but i would not dare let my kids go to any retreats, bible studies, etc. any church sponsored/supervised events. my fear would be that one of these twisted fucks would touch one of my little people then i would just have to go to church and kill every motherfucking priest in the building....and nobody wants that some imaginary all knowing seeing asshole in the clouds somewhere or some virgin that had a kid might get upset or some stupid shit like that hokus fucking pokus ...abracadabra and all that bullshit peace.. if you want a friend feed any animal Perry Farrell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites micro 0 #16 October 27, 2008 QuoteQuoteap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iE4cdTy9SqWqAZZ1OI8FUDV08EuAD9411JG04 Good Christian values. Has nothing to do with Christian values. I'm an Episcopalian and I'm going to stand up and say enough of the broad swipes against Christians in general. We're not all assholes. I'm also an ex-Catholic (born into it) and simply think that some of these Catholic Dioceses should be prosecuted under the RIOOH laws as organized criminal enterprises for the shell game they're playing to hide pedophile clergy AND their assets. That said, I'd also like to point out that a Protestant minister, once one of Dr MLK Jr's aids, was recently convicted of fucking his own teenage daughter - something that disgusts every cell of my Christian mind and body. So it's not just a Catholic problem either, though they've been getting most of the press. It has to do with the abuse of power, authority, and trust. It also happens with doctors, psychologists, cops, teachers. judges, and politicians. Just don't paint ME with the same brush ! Some us actually TRY to live like Christians. Excellent post! Simply excellent! I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites riddler 0 #17 October 27, 2008 My mother frequently does business with people in her church, many times, to her disadvantage. Whenever she is in the process of getting screwed over, I question why she engaged in business with them. Her response is "but he/she is a Christian." I wonder how many people willingly turn over their children to pedophiles based on their misguided belief that just because they are Christian, they must be good.Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites porpoishead 8 #18 October 27, 2008 i think toms post is right on too.. that sort of bullshit has nothing to do with religious faith in any way. I hang out with some religious people i hang out with some very religious people and they are equally appalled by these criminals. the only resolution for these sick bastards that do shit like that is execution. you can't fix a pedophile in my opinion, thats why most of them are repeat offenders and/or have done it multiple times before they get caught. I have no sympathy or compassion for these individuals regardless of any and all religious affiliation. I do not dicriminate. kill em all.........who gives a flying fuck who sorts them out or forgives themif you want a friend feed any animal Perry Farrell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,230 #19 October 27, 2008 Quotei think toms post is right on too.. that sort of bullshit has nothing to do with religious faith in any way. Organized religion attracts these people, and provides opportunities and moral authority for them. It teaches a form of subservience (shepherd/sheep analogy ingrained in Christianity) in the flock that enables them to operate. History shows it then protects them too.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites normiss 917 #20 October 27, 2008 VERY well said. It would be the equivalent of us saying all educators are sexual predators due to the high number of them arrested/charged/convicted. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites maadmax 0 #21 October 27, 2008 And what, exactly, is christian wisdom? Knowledge gained from studying the Bible, combined with faith so that it becomes part of your constructed reality, resulting in the production of good works. Wisdom is knowledge in action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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kallend 2,230 #6 October 25, 2008 Quote Personally, I am very bothered by criminal behavior. ... Good for you. And you should be particularly bothered that the criminal was a Christian PRIEST. Quoteyou have no concept of what Good Christian values are. Don't tell me what I know and don't know about Christianity. I spent 13 years being indoctrinated with Christian propaganda. I stupidly even believed it for a while, before I was old enough to see through the BS.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #7 October 25, 2008 QuoteQuoteap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iE4cdTy9SqWqAZZ1OI8FUDV08EuAD9411JG04 Good Christian values*** It is obvious from your post that you have no concept of what Good Christian values are... Then may I ask how you define your good Christian values? Are you a member or follower of a particular church or branch of Christianity? If so, does your Church define your values? or are you a Vaguely-Christian who tries to interpret his teachings personally and deliberately without guidance? Perhaps with hindsight Kallend may have stated "Good Catholic Values", but it is apparent that Un-Christian behaviour is certainly not confined to the Catholic Church. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites maadmax 0 #8 October 26, 2008 ----Then may I ask how you define your good Christian values? Christian wisdom produces love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self control. The Truth of any value is proven by the actions it inspires. ______________________________________ ----Are you a member or follower of a particular church or branch of Christianity? No _____________________________________ ----If so, does your Church define your values? or are you a Vaguely-Christian who tries to interpret his teachings personally and deliberately without guidance? I don't limit my learning. I am open to Spiritual Truth no matter what the source. _______________________________________ ---Perhaps with hindsight Kallend may have stated "Good Catholic Values", but it is apparent that Un-Christian behaviour is certainly not confined to the Catholic Church. Agreed, hindsight and some self-examination is definetly in order. .... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites miked10270 0 #9 October 26, 2008 Quote Christian wisdom produces love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self control. The Truth of any value is proven by the actions it inspires. I don't limit my learning. I am open to Spiritual Truth no matter what the source... So, I'm guessing that like so many of us, you have no problem believing in God, nor any problem in adhering to Christ's teachings, BUT major problems with organised religions and their attendant hypocricies.I doubt that you, Kallend & I are in disagreement -- which begs the question; What are we doing in SC!!?Regards, Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DFWAJG 4 #10 October 26, 2008 Getting married would not prevent child molesters from molesting children. They would just have access to their own children. http://www.psychohistory.com/htm/06a1_incest.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites maadmax 0 #11 October 27, 2008 --So, I'm guessing that like so many of us, you have no problem believing in God, nor any problem in adhering to Christ's teachings, BUT major problems with organised religions and their attendant hypocricies. Yes, well put. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,648 #12 October 27, 2008 QuoteChristian wisdom produces love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self control. The Truth of any value is proven by the actions it inspires. And what, exactly, is christian wisdom?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tbrown 26 #13 October 27, 2008 Quoteap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iE4cdTy9SqWqAZZ1OI8FUDV08EuAD9411JG04 Good Christian values. Has nothing to do with Christian values. I'm an Episcopalian and I'm going to stand up and say enough of the broad swipes against Christians in general. We're not all assholes. I'm also an ex-Catholic (born into it) and simply think that some of these Catholic Dioceses should be prosecuted under the RIOOH laws as organized criminal enterprises for the shell game they're playing to hide pedophile clergy AND their assets. That said, I'd also like to point out that a Protestant minister, once one of Dr MLK Jr's aids, was recently convicted of fucking his own teenage daughter - something that disgusts every cell of my Christian mind and body. So it's not just a Catholic problem either, though they've been getting most of the press. It has to do with the abuse of power, authority, and trust. It also happens with doctors, psychologists, cops, teachers. judges, and politicians. Just don't paint ME with the same brush ! Some us actually TRY to live like Christians. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnDeere 0 #14 October 27, 2008 QuoteQuote Personally, I am very bothered by criminal behavior. ... Good for you. And you should be particularly bothered that the criminal was a Christian PRIEST. Quoteyou have no concept of what Good Christian values are. Don't tell me what I know and don't know about Christianity. I spent 13 years being indoctrinated with Christian propaganda. I stupidly even believed it for a while, before I was old enough to see through the BS. So when will you be old enought to see through the liberal indoctrination bs?????Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites porpoishead 8 #15 October 27, 2008 those pedophile motherfuckers have been getting away with that shit for far too long. too bad the parents of some of the victims are so brainwashed from religious belief, that they forgive these atrocious crimes. it's simple for me, i don't believe in none of that stupid fucking bullshit. so i say burn the motherfuckers at the stake like they used to do during the inqusition times to their own..i bet them gay ass dresses and scarves they all wear would burn up in some pretty cool looking colors. I would pay-per view that shit. I don't make my children go to church. they were curious to go several times and went (catholic). I'll let them see what it's about they can draw their own conclusions when they are older. to each their own with that horse shit i say. but i would not dare let my kids go to any retreats, bible studies, etc. any church sponsored/supervised events. my fear would be that one of these twisted fucks would touch one of my little people then i would just have to go to church and kill every motherfucking priest in the building....and nobody wants that some imaginary all knowing seeing asshole in the clouds somewhere or some virgin that had a kid might get upset or some stupid shit like that hokus fucking pokus ...abracadabra and all that bullshit peace.. if you want a friend feed any animal Perry Farrell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites micro 0 #16 October 27, 2008 QuoteQuoteap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iE4cdTy9SqWqAZZ1OI8FUDV08EuAD9411JG04 Good Christian values. Has nothing to do with Christian values. I'm an Episcopalian and I'm going to stand up and say enough of the broad swipes against Christians in general. We're not all assholes. I'm also an ex-Catholic (born into it) and simply think that some of these Catholic Dioceses should be prosecuted under the RIOOH laws as organized criminal enterprises for the shell game they're playing to hide pedophile clergy AND their assets. That said, I'd also like to point out that a Protestant minister, once one of Dr MLK Jr's aids, was recently convicted of fucking his own teenage daughter - something that disgusts every cell of my Christian mind and body. So it's not just a Catholic problem either, though they've been getting most of the press. It has to do with the abuse of power, authority, and trust. It also happens with doctors, psychologists, cops, teachers. judges, and politicians. Just don't paint ME with the same brush ! Some us actually TRY to live like Christians. Excellent post! Simply excellent! I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites riddler 0 #17 October 27, 2008 My mother frequently does business with people in her church, many times, to her disadvantage. Whenever she is in the process of getting screwed over, I question why she engaged in business with them. Her response is "but he/she is a Christian." I wonder how many people willingly turn over their children to pedophiles based on their misguided belief that just because they are Christian, they must be good.Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites porpoishead 8 #18 October 27, 2008 i think toms post is right on too.. that sort of bullshit has nothing to do with religious faith in any way. I hang out with some religious people i hang out with some very religious people and they are equally appalled by these criminals. the only resolution for these sick bastards that do shit like that is execution. you can't fix a pedophile in my opinion, thats why most of them are repeat offenders and/or have done it multiple times before they get caught. I have no sympathy or compassion for these individuals regardless of any and all religious affiliation. I do not dicriminate. kill em all.........who gives a flying fuck who sorts them out or forgives themif you want a friend feed any animal Perry Farrell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,230 #19 October 27, 2008 Quotei think toms post is right on too.. that sort of bullshit has nothing to do with religious faith in any way. Organized religion attracts these people, and provides opportunities and moral authority for them. It teaches a form of subservience (shepherd/sheep analogy ingrained in Christianity) in the flock that enables them to operate. History shows it then protects them too.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites normiss 917 #20 October 27, 2008 VERY well said. It would be the equivalent of us saying all educators are sexual predators due to the high number of them arrested/charged/convicted. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites maadmax 0 #21 October 27, 2008 And what, exactly, is christian wisdom? Knowledge gained from studying the Bible, combined with faith so that it becomes part of your constructed reality, resulting in the production of good works. Wisdom is knowledge in action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maadmax 0 #8 October 26, 2008 ----Then may I ask how you define your good Christian values? Christian wisdom produces love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self control. The Truth of any value is proven by the actions it inspires. ______________________________________ ----Are you a member or follower of a particular church or branch of Christianity? No _____________________________________ ----If so, does your Church define your values? or are you a Vaguely-Christian who tries to interpret his teachings personally and deliberately without guidance? I don't limit my learning. I am open to Spiritual Truth no matter what the source. _______________________________________ ---Perhaps with hindsight Kallend may have stated "Good Catholic Values", but it is apparent that Un-Christian behaviour is certainly not confined to the Catholic Church. Agreed, hindsight and some self-examination is definetly in order. .... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #9 October 26, 2008 Quote Christian wisdom produces love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self control. The Truth of any value is proven by the actions it inspires. I don't limit my learning. I am open to Spiritual Truth no matter what the source... So, I'm guessing that like so many of us, you have no problem believing in God, nor any problem in adhering to Christ's teachings, BUT major problems with organised religions and their attendant hypocricies.I doubt that you, Kallend & I are in disagreement -- which begs the question; What are we doing in SC!!?Regards, Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DFWAJG 4 #10 October 26, 2008 Getting married would not prevent child molesters from molesting children. They would just have access to their own children. http://www.psychohistory.com/htm/06a1_incest.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maadmax 0 #11 October 27, 2008 --So, I'm guessing that like so many of us, you have no problem believing in God, nor any problem in adhering to Christ's teachings, BUT major problems with organised religions and their attendant hypocricies. Yes, well put. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,648 #12 October 27, 2008 QuoteChristian wisdom produces love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self control. The Truth of any value is proven by the actions it inspires. And what, exactly, is christian wisdom?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #13 October 27, 2008 Quoteap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iE4cdTy9SqWqAZZ1OI8FUDV08EuAD9411JG04 Good Christian values. Has nothing to do with Christian values. I'm an Episcopalian and I'm going to stand up and say enough of the broad swipes against Christians in general. We're not all assholes. I'm also an ex-Catholic (born into it) and simply think that some of these Catholic Dioceses should be prosecuted under the RIOOH laws as organized criminal enterprises for the shell game they're playing to hide pedophile clergy AND their assets. That said, I'd also like to point out that a Protestant minister, once one of Dr MLK Jr's aids, was recently convicted of fucking his own teenage daughter - something that disgusts every cell of my Christian mind and body. So it's not just a Catholic problem either, though they've been getting most of the press. It has to do with the abuse of power, authority, and trust. It also happens with doctors, psychologists, cops, teachers. judges, and politicians. Just don't paint ME with the same brush ! Some us actually TRY to live like Christians. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #14 October 27, 2008 QuoteQuote Personally, I am very bothered by criminal behavior. ... Good for you. And you should be particularly bothered that the criminal was a Christian PRIEST. Quoteyou have no concept of what Good Christian values are. Don't tell me what I know and don't know about Christianity. I spent 13 years being indoctrinated with Christian propaganda. I stupidly even believed it for a while, before I was old enough to see through the BS. So when will you be old enought to see through the liberal indoctrination bs?????Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porpoishead 8 #15 October 27, 2008 those pedophile motherfuckers have been getting away with that shit for far too long. too bad the parents of some of the victims are so brainwashed from religious belief, that they forgive these atrocious crimes. it's simple for me, i don't believe in none of that stupid fucking bullshit. so i say burn the motherfuckers at the stake like they used to do during the inqusition times to their own..i bet them gay ass dresses and scarves they all wear would burn up in some pretty cool looking colors. I would pay-per view that shit. I don't make my children go to church. they were curious to go several times and went (catholic). I'll let them see what it's about they can draw their own conclusions when they are older. to each their own with that horse shit i say. but i would not dare let my kids go to any retreats, bible studies, etc. any church sponsored/supervised events. my fear would be that one of these twisted fucks would touch one of my little people then i would just have to go to church and kill every motherfucking priest in the building....and nobody wants that some imaginary all knowing seeing asshole in the clouds somewhere or some virgin that had a kid might get upset or some stupid shit like that hokus fucking pokus ...abracadabra and all that bullshit peace.. if you want a friend feed any animal Perry Farrell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #16 October 27, 2008 QuoteQuoteap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iE4cdTy9SqWqAZZ1OI8FUDV08EuAD9411JG04 Good Christian values. Has nothing to do with Christian values. I'm an Episcopalian and I'm going to stand up and say enough of the broad swipes against Christians in general. We're not all assholes. I'm also an ex-Catholic (born into it) and simply think that some of these Catholic Dioceses should be prosecuted under the RIOOH laws as organized criminal enterprises for the shell game they're playing to hide pedophile clergy AND their assets. That said, I'd also like to point out that a Protestant minister, once one of Dr MLK Jr's aids, was recently convicted of fucking his own teenage daughter - something that disgusts every cell of my Christian mind and body. So it's not just a Catholic problem either, though they've been getting most of the press. It has to do with the abuse of power, authority, and trust. It also happens with doctors, psychologists, cops, teachers. judges, and politicians. Just don't paint ME with the same brush ! Some us actually TRY to live like Christians. Excellent post! Simply excellent! I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #17 October 27, 2008 My mother frequently does business with people in her church, many times, to her disadvantage. Whenever she is in the process of getting screwed over, I question why she engaged in business with them. Her response is "but he/she is a Christian." I wonder how many people willingly turn over their children to pedophiles based on their misguided belief that just because they are Christian, they must be good.Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porpoishead 8 #18 October 27, 2008 i think toms post is right on too.. that sort of bullshit has nothing to do with religious faith in any way. I hang out with some religious people i hang out with some very religious people and they are equally appalled by these criminals. the only resolution for these sick bastards that do shit like that is execution. you can't fix a pedophile in my opinion, thats why most of them are repeat offenders and/or have done it multiple times before they get caught. I have no sympathy or compassion for these individuals regardless of any and all religious affiliation. I do not dicriminate. kill em all.........who gives a flying fuck who sorts them out or forgives themif you want a friend feed any animal Perry Farrell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,230 #19 October 27, 2008 Quotei think toms post is right on too.. that sort of bullshit has nothing to do with religious faith in any way. Organized religion attracts these people, and provides opportunities and moral authority for them. It teaches a form of subservience (shepherd/sheep analogy ingrained in Christianity) in the flock that enables them to operate. History shows it then protects them too.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 917 #20 October 27, 2008 VERY well said. It would be the equivalent of us saying all educators are sexual predators due to the high number of them arrested/charged/convicted. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maadmax 0 #21 October 27, 2008 And what, exactly, is christian wisdom? Knowledge gained from studying the Bible, combined with faith so that it becomes part of your constructed reality, resulting in the production of good works. Wisdom is knowledge in action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
