About the dumbest Texas death row thing I've read.... you'd think GW was still Governor

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081021/ap_on_re_us/death_row_cellphone_4

Texas searches prisons after death row phone found


Prison officials said the inmates involved in the cell phone use will face criminal charges or disciplinary actions.


Bahahahaha ... Damn, a criminal charge like that could ruin a guy's future. And disciplinary actions, yea, no blended fruit cup for you and your last meal comes from McDonald's.


Do these prison officials listen to themselves?

[JohnRich 4]

You don't think that denial of certain prison benefits should be used for behavioral control?

You think that prisoners should be allowed to call people and threaten their children?

You think that someone who has killed four people deserves to have a cell phone in prison?

You think that it should be okay for corrections officers to take bribes to smuggle contraband into prison?

You want gang members to be able to continue to run their illegal drug enterprises while serving time?

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I'm absolutely with John on this one.

Given the length of time people can spend on "Death-Row" before possible pardon or release, particularly if a witness should "Change-Testimony" over time, then unmonitored communication between prisoners and those outside should properly be viewed as an attempt to pervert justice.

Mike.

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You don't think that denial of certain prison benefits should be used for behavioral control?

You think that prisoners should be allowed to call people and threaten their children?

You think that someone who has killed four people deserves to have a cell phone in prison?

You think that it should be okay for corrections officers to take bribes to smuggle contraband into prison?

You want gang members to be able to continue to run their illegal drug enterprises while serving time?

I don't think anyone including the op would want the above but I'm curious, how would you punish the offender who is on death row?

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Why go to a load of trouble to search cells, confiscate phones and prosecute people who don't actually give a shit when a $100 cell phone jammer will solve the problem once and for all?

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You don't think that denial of certain prison benefits should be used for behavioral control?

You think that prisoners should be allowed to call people and threaten their children?

You think that someone who has killed four people deserves to have a cell phone in prison?

You think that it should be okay for corrections officers to take bribes to smuggle contraband into prison?

You want gang members to be able to continue to run their illegal drug enterprises while serving time?

Narrow the approach here, all I claimed was that it isn't reral possible to punish death row prisoners. Normal population they can extend the sentence and should in cases like this, but if you reread the OP it clearly indicates these are death row, they would, in most cases, love an extension of time. They only get 1 hour alone out of their cell per day anyway, and I think they can't lose that, so they have no privs to retract, hence no way they can punish these guys any further, that's the hillarity behind this.

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I'm absolutely with John on this one.

Given the length of time people can spend on "Death-Row" before possible pardon or release, particularly if a witness should "Change-Testimony" over time, then unmonitored communication between prisoners and those outside should properly be viewed as an attempt to pervert justice.

Mike.

How do you punish death row inmates? They live in solitary, they have limited time out which is usually federally protected. Their diet is shit. They have limited visitation which is heavily monitored. What do you take from these guys, they have no liberties and will leave w/o a pulse, that's the point; it's stupid of jail officials to threaten to punish these guys, as punishment means time out of their cells, which is preferential teatment.

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You don't think that denial of certain prison benefits should be used for behavioral control?

You think that prisoners should be allowed to call people and threaten their children?

You think that someone who has killed four people deserves to have a cell phone in prison?

You think that it should be okay for corrections officers to take bribes to smuggle contraband into prison?

You want gang members to be able to continue to run their illegal drug enterprises while serving time?

I don't think anyone including the op would want the above but I'm curious, how would you punish the offender who is on death row?

Thank you, finally the voice of reason!

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You don't think that denial of certain prison benefits should be used for behavioral control?

You think that prisoners should be allowed to call people and threaten their children?

You think that someone who has killed four people deserves to have a cell phone in prison?

You think that it should be okay for corrections officers to take bribes to smuggle contraband into prison?

You want gang members to be able to continue to run their illegal drug enterprises while serving time?

I don't think anyone including the op would want the above but I'm curious, how would you punish the offender who is on death row?

Add 15 months to their sentence.

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Add 15 months to their sentence.

15 months of extra death. That's harsh.

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Why go to a load of trouble to search cells, confiscate phones and prosecute people who don't actually give a shit when a $100 cell phone jammer will solve the problem once and for all?

Truthfully, it shows a total lack of intelligence on the part of the jail system. The jail system should be on trial here, but they disguise it to spin it on the prisoners.

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I don't think anyone including the op would want the above but I'm curious, how would you punish the offender who is on death row?

make them sit through all of the political bollox on the T.V news at the moment ..... or sift through it on DZ.com!!

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How do you punish death row inmates? They live in solitary, they have limited time out. Their diet is shit. They have limited visitation...

Yes, their life is bleak. But there are certain things that they still crave, like that visitation, or time out of the cell in the open yard. Or the "fruit cup" for dinner that someone mentioned. And you can punish them by depriving them of those privileges. Those small things are all they have to look forward to, which makes them very important in their lives, and by threatening to take them away, you provide a strong incentive for them to behave properly.

I just returned from a 7-day wilderness canoe trip. I paddled for days into a 30-mph headwind, and hiked for miles up and down canyon walls. Set up camp every evening, and broke camp every morning. It's a grueling regimen. All of which made a small can of mandarin orange slices a real treat when I finally got a chance to relax at night. If someone had made those orange slices conditional upon doing certain things, I probably would have been very conscientious about doing those things to ensure I got that little tasty treat at the end of the day.

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>But there are certain things that they still crave, like that visitation, or time out of the cell in the open yard. Or the "fruit cup" for dinner that someone mentioned. And you can punish them by depriving them of those privileges. Those small things are all they have to look forward to, which makes them very important in their lives, and by threatening to take them away, you provide a strong incentive for them to behave properly.



I would suggest that most of those things are guaranteed via federal law and these prisoners don't get anythying/much above what the feds madate, so there is little/no wiggle room. Really hard to punish a person who lives in a box awaiting death. To Bush's and some Republican's dismay, torture is out of the question.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I just returned from a 7-day wilderness canoe trip. I paddled for days into a 30-mph headwind, and hiked for miles up and down canyon walls. Set up camp every evening, and broke camp every morning. It's a grueling regimen. All of which made a small can of mandarin orange slices a real treat when I finally got a chance to relax at night. If someone had made those orange slices conditional upon doing certain things, I probably would have been very conscientious about doing those things to ensure I got that little tasty treat at the end of the day.


Very different analogy, but in deterrence the element neccessary is choice and you have teh choice to call it off and go home and stop by every McDonald's on the wway home or go buya case of peaches. DR prisoners have a slight bit of choice when it comes to behavior and here they've exhibited they don't give a shit, take away what you want. I've never been to prison or of course DR, but I could imagine that once it's set in stone I'm gonna die, just not sure when, I doubt I would give a shit too much, whether I committed the crime or not. Remember, actual guilt or innocense doesn't matter under this guise of deterrence. And as you recall, he just waived his appeals and 'volunteered.' So instead of volunatry vacation, think how he's thinking to understand any regard to rules and laws.

But this is getting waaaaaaaaay too serious, it's about the ridiculous nature behind the Texas Penal System thinking they caan punish a DR prisoner.

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You don't think that denial of certain prison benefits should be used for behavioral control?

You think that prisoners should be allowed to call people and threaten their children?

You think that someone who has killed four people deserves to have a cell phone in prison?

You think that it should be okay for corrections officers to take bribes to smuggle contraband into prison?

You want gang members to be able to continue to run their illegal drug enterprises while serving time?

I don't think anyone including the op would want the above but I'm curious, how would you punish the offender who is on death row?

Add 15 months to their sentence.

put them in the express lane. move the execution up 30 days and cancel their appeal.

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You don't think that denial of certain prison benefits should be used for behavioral control?

You think that prisoners should be allowed to call people and threaten their children?

You think that someone who has killed four people deserves to have a cell phone in prison?

You think that it should be okay for corrections officers to take bribes to smuggle contraband into prison?

You want gang members to be able to continue to run their illegal drug enterprises while serving time?

I don't think anyone including the op would want the above but I'm curious, how would you punish the offender who is on death row?

Add 15 months to their sentence.

put them in the express lane. move the execution up 30 days and cancel their appeal.

And then keep denying we execute innocent people.

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The cell phone situation is quite serious, actually. At Folsom, a gang leader was running a cell phone racket. Over 300 cell phones were found in two buildings. The phones go for about $400 each.


And, they don't get fruit cup...they turn it into pruno.

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The cell phone situation is quite serious, actually. At Folsom, a gang leader was running a cell phone racket. Over 300 cell phones were found in two buildings. The phones go for about $400 each.


And, they don't get fruit cup...they turn it into pruno.

>>>>>>>>>>>The phones go for about $400 each.


Or 5 nights with the bitch of your choice.

I didn't say it was funny -ha,ha, It's just inane that they would turn this into punishment when you really can't do much to DR prisoners.