kallend 2,230 #1 October 18, 2008 www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-fraud18-2008oct18,0,1216330.story... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #2 October 18, 2008 Quote www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-fraud18-2008oct18,0,1216330.story shame on both sides these people should not have signed something they didn't read and they should not have been decieved. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trent 0 #3 October 19, 2008 This is despicable as well. I am more angry at people on "my" side who screw up because it ruins the "right" of what we think. I expect it from "your" side though. But is getting people to switch parties as bad as registering new voters fraudulently? After all, regardless of these peoples' party affiliation they're still gonna vote for BO.Oh, hello again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #4 October 19, 2008 This is a problem endemic to paid registrars, be it for registration or initiative signature collection. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #5 October 19, 2008 McCain is behind it! Well, OK, I don't really believe that. But let's talk about how many people think Obama is behind the Acorn fraud.Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,230 #6 October 20, 2008 An arrest has been made. elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/20/republican-voter-registration-chief-arrested-fraud-california/... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #7 October 20, 2008 Quote An arrest has been made. elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/20/republican-voter-registration-chief-arrested-fraud-california/ Good - now let's see them clean up the ACORN lists.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #8 October 20, 2008 QuoteQuote An arrest has been made. elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/20/republican-voter-registration-chief-arrested-fraud-california/ Good - now let's see them clean up the ACORN lists. It's hard to wade through the noise on this site sometimes. Has it been brought up that ACORN reported the possible fraudulent registrations? That ACORN would have been in more trouble if they didn't accept the registrations that were gathered for them? But I'm glad to see as many posters on this site demanding blood from the GOP/YPM after all the posts on ACORN. You can follow the whole YPM drama here: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6534_________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #9 October 20, 2008 Oh look...more voter fraud: http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-aip3-2008sep03,0,6399468.story And look, voter intimidation from McCain supporters: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christina-bellantoni/mccain-supporters-heckle_b_136099.html_________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #10 October 20, 2008 QuoteOh look...more voter fraud: http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-aip3-2008sep03,0,6399468.story Um...that's about the Alaskan Independence Party thing - try again. And look, voter intimidation from McCain supporters: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christina-bellantoni/mccain-supporters-heckle_b_136099.html Oh, my...they were HECKLED!!! OH, the huge manatee!!! Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #11 October 20, 2008 Welp. Guess that's all the Republican Party has left. I'd be angry if I was pandered to for all these years with no results as well. Plus they were soooo not subtle in their cheating/caging in 2000 that no one will allow them to get away with it this time. I'd be frustrated too I guess, esp if I had a secessionist leading the anti-American cheers._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #12 October 20, 2008 >>cheating/caging Um, yeah.... funny how it only ever seems to be vote fraud when the Dems *LOSE*, isn't it? >>secessionist What, Todd Palin was working up the crowd at the event? I must have missed that. Besides, he's no longer a member of the party - I thought you liberals were all about forgetting what was done in the past? Oh, wait - that's only for YOUR guys - my bad.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,173 #13 October 20, 2008 >funny how it only ever seems to be vote fraud when the Dems *LOSE*, isn't it? Hmm. And yet the conservatives here are screaming to high heaven over ACORN despite the democrats being ahead! Odd. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #14 October 20, 2008 Quote>funny how it only ever seems to be vote fraud when the Dems *LOSE*, isn't it? Hmm. And yet the conservatives here are screaming to high heaven over ACORN despite the democrats being ahead! Odd. You don't see the DEMS screaming about it, do you?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,173 #15 October 20, 2008 >You don't see the DEMS screaming about it, do you? Read the first thread in this post. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #16 October 20, 2008 The only thing I've seen this year is the ACORN situation, and as mentioned and proven, ACORN reported the fraud. And as mentioned, by law they could not interfere with what was placed on the registration forms. So it is voter registration fraud and makes a good sound bite when you leave out some of the details. Meanwhile, there are multiple investigations and lawsuits related to voter fraud, tampering and intimidation in Ohio and Florida for both 2000 and 2004. Then there is the list I pulled together with the accounts of the Republicans or those that work for them providing misleading information about this years election. Then we can also talk about the illegal caging in Michigan within 90 days of the election via the foreclosure lists. Then there are the Diebold machines that are already providing false results in early voting....in fact one where location where if you push Obama on the screen it switches to McCain and automatically registers it. Let's not forget these are the same voting machines run by a staunch Republican supporter that has refused to fix the known exploits for the last 10 years. And now you have YPM. So ya....about that_________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #17 October 20, 2008 Where's the convictions? (Besides YPM, that is) For every 'fraud' story you can bring up about the Reps, similar can be proven for the Dems.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #18 October 20, 2008 QuoteWhere's the convictions? (Besides YPM, that is) For every 'fraud' story you can bring up about the Reps, similar can be proven for the Dems. Lawsuits are currently in progress, or the investigation is currently ongoing. Usually the convictions come after that, ya know? But due to people gaming the legal system, this process will most likely take decades. Bring on the stories and links of the Dems trying to steal a Presidential election._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #19 October 20, 2008 QuoteQuoteWhere's the convictions? (Besides YPM, that is) For every 'fraud' story you can bring up about the Reps, similar can be proven for the Dems. Lawsuits are currently in progress, or the investigation is currently ongoing. Usually the convictions come after that, ya know? But due to people gaming the legal system, this process will most likely take decades. Bring on the stories and links of the Dems trying to steal a Presidential election. Other than targeted recounts in Dem counties in 2000? Other than pressure to break Fla state law and not certify the votes by the date stated by the law? Other than news stories about blowouts for Gore that undoubtedly caused some voter to not bother to go vote? GIYF.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #20 October 20, 2008 QuoteOther than targeted recounts in Dem counties in 2000? Other than pressure to break Fla state law and not certify the votes by the date stated by the law? Other than news stories about blowouts for Gore that undoubtedly caused some voter to not bother to go vote? GIYF. What does that last one have to do with anything connected to your point? That is the media calling votes in early with only 5% reporting in some areas. Oh wait, here comes the liberal media thing, right? Do you complain about FoxNews and the Bush people that same night doing the same for him? So....chicken or egg here: The Dems called for recount in dem heavy areas because they were the focal point of Republican caging and misinformation campaigns like phone calls telling people the vote was a day later. Those are also the areas where massive amounts of votes were destroyed and not counted for who knows what reason. So, how is it a bad thing trying to make sure all the votes get counted and illegal practices get caught? They pushed for the certification date to be pushed back because there wasn't enough time to research all the corruption that had taken place._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #21 October 21, 2008 Nevermind, dude...have some more koolaid.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #22 October 21, 2008 QuoteNevermind, dude...have some more koolaid. That's what I thought._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #23 October 21, 2008 QuoteQuoteNevermind, dude...have some more koolaid. That's what I thought. Excuse and more excuses, why try to discuss it with you? It's all done by the Reps and the Dems are innocent angels.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #24 October 21, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteNevermind, dude...have some more koolaid. That's what I thought. Excuse and more excuses, why try to discuss it with you? It's all done by the Reps and the Dems are innocent angels. I never said that. I'm all for solid proof, esp that involved in the legal system. You gave examples of reactions to voter fraud done by possible republicans. So, still waiting on examples. ACORN doesn't count as it's been shown they were legally bound to submit the registrations and that they also were the ones that reported it. What's going on here is that the McCain fantasy trip has been trying to setup some sort of anti landslide bear trap. They are grasping at straws for anything and pretty much the entire country and the world isn't having that sort of shit this time._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #25 October 21, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Nevermind, dude...have some more koolaid. That's what I thought. Excuse and more excuses, why try to discuss it with you? It's all done by the Reps and the Dems are innocent angels. As the result seems more and more obvious, you guys are getting testy . You should put it in perspective and realize that you've held the WH for 5 of 7 terms and congress most of that time. You don't have to like it, but understand that it's our turn for easily a decade or 2, altho it may not come to that, it could be 1 term, but understand that you've had your piece of the pie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites