jraf 0 #1 October 7, 2008 Associated Press updated 6:10 a.m. ET, Tues., Oct. 7, 2008 McCain's ties are facing renewed scrutiny after his campaign criticized Barack Obama for his link to a former radical who engaged in violent acts 40 years ago. The U.S. Council for World Freedom was part of an international organization linked to former Nazi collaborators and ultra-right-wing death squads in Central America. The group was dedicated to stamping out communism around the globe. 'New guy on the block' "McCain was a new guy on the block learning the ropes," Singlaub told The Associated Press in an interview. "I think I met him in the Washington area when he was just a new congressman. We had McCain on the board to make him feel like he wasn't left out. It looks good to have names on a letterhead who are well-known and appreciated.jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lummy 4 #2 October 7, 2008 Does this mean that the presidential election is over now? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_lawI promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #3 October 7, 2008 Pretty much. We have a new Fuehrer - John Sidney McCain the 3rd The Greatest Warlord of all Times - abbreviated as The GreWaTjraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #4 October 7, 2008 Quote Pretty much. We have a new Fuehrer - John Sidney McCain the 3rd The Greatest Warlord of all Times - abbreviated as The GreWaT What will that mean to us Germans, then?? dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #5 October 7, 2008 Groefaz of course. And the fact that Muslims will have to wear a green Crescent on their clothing in the United States and will have to add Hussein(M) Zuleika(F) in their official documents and we may start deporting them to Guantanamo in cattle cars soon. We just have to re-open the rail ferry to Cuba againjraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #6 October 7, 2008 Quote Groefaz of course. And the fact that Muslims will have to wear a green Crescent on their clothing in the United States and will have to add Hussein(M) Zuleika(F) in their official documents and we may start deporting them to Guantanamo in cattle cars soon. We just have to re-open the rail ferry to Cuba again Bwahahaha Another one? Heaven, help. (That'll make him rotate like a fan in his hole) dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #7 October 7, 2008 In other news, I heard a rumor that prominent rocket scientists in NASA's Mercury, Gemini and Apollo space programs were the same Nazi collaborators who developed the V-1 and V-2 rockets. I am shocked, shocked, to learn of this. I feel so betrayed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #8 October 7, 2008 QuoteIn other news, I heard a rumor that prominent rocket scientists in NASA's Mercury, Gemini and Apollo space programs were the same Nazi collaborators who developed the V-1 and V-2 rockets. I am shocked, shocked, to learn of this. I feel so betrayed. Esentially true - Werner von Braun had a 'come to Geezus' moment when his son told him he was marrying a Jewish girl, but in the end it was Werner von Braun who saw the light and came to terms with that. John McCain chooses to pretend that there is no light. John Sidney McCain III - McCain First...country will have to wait a bitjraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #9 October 7, 2008 Please tell me that was tongue in cheek... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #10 October 7, 2008 Quote Quote Pretty much. We have a new Fuehrer - John Sidney McCain the 3rd The Greatest Warlord of all Times - abbreviated as The GreWaT What will that mean to us Germans, then?? All it'll mean is Y'All can move to America... McCain/Palin are more Juan & Eva Peron than Adolf & Eva. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #11 October 7, 2008 Nopejraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #12 October 7, 2008 Quote Quote In other news, I heard a rumor that prominent rocket scientists in NASA's Mercury, Gemini and Apollo space programs were the same Nazi collaborators who developed the V-1 and V-2 rockets. I am shocked, shocked, to learn of this. I feel so betrayed. Esentially true - Werner von Braun had a 'come to Geezus' moment when his son told him he was marrying a Jewish girl, but in the end it was Werner von Braun who saw the light and came to terms with that. John McCain chooses to pretend that there is no light. John Sidney McCain III - McCain First...country will have to wait a bit WvB was a traitor. And a horrible father. No wonder his kids left home that early to marry, to escape from home. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #13 October 8, 2008 Yeah, a decorated American hero, like General John Singlaub is just like that clown Ayers...NOT. Why don't you look into the fight that Gen. Singlaub brought to the Nazis by prepping the resistance forces to keep operating in WWII. I would happily embrace a relationship with someone as tough as nails like Gen. Singlaub. So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #14 October 8, 2008 QuoteWvB was a traitor. Please elaborate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,468 #15 October 8, 2008 Fro those of you who have not been around too long: Gen. Singlaub used to be on the USPA BOD. JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #16 October 8, 2008 This fact alone should convince everyone that Singlaub was a Nazi collaborator and a child mollesterjraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #17 October 8, 2008 You are way out of line. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #18 October 8, 2008 Singlaub joined forces with Ted Shackley, Ray S. Cline and Richard Helms to get Jimmy Carter removed from the White House. In December, 1979, Singlaub and retired General Daniel Graham headed a delegation from the American Security Council, a private right-wing organization, on a trip to Guatemala. Singlaub pointed out that Ronald Reagan "recognizes that a good deal of dirty work has to be done" in order to destroy communism in Guatemala. "death squad activity in Guatemala increased dramatically following the trip." Upon his return to the United States Singlaub called for "sympathetic understanding of the death squads" (The Iran Contra Connection: Secret Teams and Covert Operations in the Reagan Era). Singlaub returned to Guatemala in 1980. This time he went with General Gordon Sumner of the Council for inter-American Security. Singlaub again took a message from Ronald Reagan who was now campaigning for the Presidency of the United States. Singlaub told his audiences that "help was on the way in the form of Ronald Reagan". Singlaub now became involved in extreme right-wing politics. He joined the World Anti-Communist League (WACL). Established in 1966 by the intelligence organizations of Taiwan and South Korea to provide anti-communist propaganda. Fascists played an important role in the WACL and at least three European chapters of the organization were controlled by former SS officers from Nazi Germany. By 1980 the WACL agreed that "Argentine counterterror and torture specialist would be dispatched to El Salvador to assist in the anti-communist struggle there". (Inside the League) With a $20,000 loan from Taiwan, Singlaub created the U.S. Council for World Freedom (USCWF) in 1981. Singlaub was an advocate of unconventional warfare, which he defined as "low intensity actions, such as sabotage, terrorism, assassination and guerrilla warfare". Singlaub made clear that the USCWF would provide "support and assistance to the democratic, anti-communist Freedom Fighters of the world." In 1991 John Singlaub published his autobiography, Hazardous Duty: An American Soldier in the Twentieth Century. The reviewer in The New York Times wrote: "In this readable, often engaging memoir, Jack Singlaub sounds like the kind of guy you would want with you in the trenches. But not necessarily after the shooting stops.jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piper17 1 #19 October 8, 2008 Gee, the noted right-wing extremist, Jimmie Carter also supported this organization. See below: The WACL held annual conferences at various locations throughout the world. Its core activity involved providing financial and material aid to right-wing organizations and anti-communist militias around the globe, notably by providing scholarships for psychological warfare training at the Political Warfare Cadres Academy in Taiwan. However, by the mid-eighties WACL had become the leading non-governmental supplier of arms to anti-communist rebel movements in southern Africa, Central America, Afghanistan and the Far East.[1] It has been alleged but not proven that The League had close ties with the governments of Taiwan under Kuomintang rule, and (to a lesser extent) South Korea. Numerous group participated, including the Unification Church. The WACL also enjoyed support from both the Carter and Reagan administrations in the United States, particularly with regard to its role in Central America,[2] and many US Congressmen, most notably 2008 presidential nominee Senator John McCain (R-AZ), [3][4] who sat on the USCWF Board of Directors in the early 1980s. [5][6] At the 17th Annual WACL Conference held in San Diego, California, John K. Singlaub, president of the WACL's US chapter, read a letter from President Ronald Reagan which said in part, "The World Anti-Communist League has long played a leadership role in drawing attention to the gallant struggle now being waged by the true freedom fighters of our day. Nancy and I send our best wishes for further success ."[1] Singlaub was the former US Chief of Staff of both United Nations and American forces in South Korea, but was relieved in 1977 by US President Jimmy Carter after publicly criticizing Carter's decision to reduce the number of troops on the peninsula. Singlaub became a member of the WACL in 1980, and founded and became president of its US chapter, the United States Council for World Freedom. In 1978, Roger Pearson, became the chairman of the WACL, until he was expelled in 1980 after allegations were made of him having been member of neo-Nazi organizations.[7][8] During the 1980s, the WACL was particularly active in Latin America, notably by aiding the Contra forces in Nicaragua. The WACL produced numerous publications, such as Can the Two Chinas become One? by S.Senese, and D.Pikcunas, (1989). The 21st WACL Conference was held in Geneva, 27-29 August 1988, and was addressed by U.S. Congressmen Richard Armey and George Wortley, and Major-General Singlaub. The League held its 22nd World Conference in Brussels in July 1990. But following the fall of Communism in Eastern Europe in 1990 and 1991, WACL's main purpose, at least in Europe, became less clear. On September 17, 1994, The Irish Times reported that the WACL is now known as the World League for Freedom and Democracy. It is still sponsored by Taiwan and South Korea, and now officially has turned itself to "global affairs, the need for peace initiatives and co-operating with developing countries." Two further reports claim that the World League for Freedom and Democracy is responsible for producing what its opponents call "troops of killers", while ostensibly organizing to provide support for Corazon Aquino from the right-wing in the Philippines (The Village Voice, February 27, 1996), and for supporting the Mozambican National Resistance (RENAMO) movement in Mozambique (The Guardian, August 6, 1994). Heck, I'll sign up!"A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #20 October 8, 2008 Quote WvB was a traitor. WvB didn't have much choice (war crimes trial), and I think he was more interested in going to the moon than staying at home or being captured by the Russians. He could have gone to Egypt to build rockets to destroy Israel like some of his colleagues attempted.Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piper17 1 #21 October 8, 2008 By the way, are you aware that General John Singlaub served on the board of directors of the United States Parachute Association? If you belong to USPA, does that means you associate with Nazis?"A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piper17 1 #22 October 8, 2008 John Kirk Singlaub is a highly-decorated former OSS officer and a retired Major General in the United States Army, and a founding member of the Central Intelligence Agency, (CIA). He was a joint founder of the Western Goals Foundation, a conservative private intelligence dissemination network, and is a contributing author to several books, the author of his autobiography as well as numerous articles. Singlaub was born in Independence, California on July 10, 1921.[1] After graduating from Van Nuys High School in 1939 he attended the University of California at Los Angeles and received after graduation his commission as a second lieutenant of infantry on January 14, 1943.[1] Singlaub was parachuted behind German lines in Europe in order to prepare the French Resistance fighters for the D-Day invasion during World War II. He headed CIA operations in postwar Manchuria during the Chinese Communist revolution, led troops in the Korean War, managed the secret war along the Ho Chi Minh Trail in Vietnam, and worked with the Contras in Nicaragua. Active for 40 years in overt and covert operations, he had private and secret interviews with many military and government leaders worldwide. He personally knew William Casey, Director of Central Intelligence during the Reagan Administration, as well as Oliver North, and was involved in the Iran-Contra Affair. Singlaub was founder in 1981 of the U.S. Council for World Freedom, the US chapter of the World Anti-Communist League (WACL). The chapter became involved with the Iran-Contra affair,[2] with Associated Press reporting that, "Singlaub's private group became the public cover for the White House operation". [3] The WACL was described by former member Geoffrey Stewart-Smith as "largely a collection of Nazis, Fascists, anti-Semites, sellers of forgeries, vicious racialists, and corrupt self-seekers." [4] U.S. Army General William Westmoreland described Singlaub as a "true military professional" and "a man of honest, patriotic conviction and courage."[citation needed] Congressman Henry J. Hyde, (Judiciary, Foreign Affairs, and Intelligence Committees), described Singlaub as "a brave man, a thorough patriot, and a keen observer" - someone who had been "in the centre of almost every controversial military action since World War II." In 1977, while Singlaub was chief of staff of U.S. forces in South Korea, he publicly criticized President Jimmy Carter's decision to withdraw U.S. troops from the Korean peninsula. On March 21, 1977, Carter relieved him of duty for overstepping his bounds and failing to respect the President's authority as Commander-in-Chief.".[5][6] During his military service, Singlaub was awarded the Distinguished Service Medal with Oak Leaf Cluster, the Silver Star, the Legion of Merit with two Oak Leaf clusters, the Bronze Star with Oak Leaf cluster, the Air Medal with Oak Leaf cluster, the Army Commendation Medal, and the Purple Heart. His foreign decorations include the French Croix de Guerre with Palm and Bronze Star devices, British Mention in Despatches oak leaf, as well as decorations from China, the Netherlands, and the Republic of Vietnam. He now lives in Arlington, Virginia. I'd choose to associate with General Singlaub rather than Bill Ayers."A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuteless 1 #23 October 8, 2008 I just read something about George W Bush's grandfather being a big help to the Nazis during the 2nd world war. Things don't change much, do they? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #24 October 8, 2008 QuoteBy the way, are you aware that General John Singlaub served on the board of directors of the United States Parachute Association? If you belong to USPA, does that means you associate with Nazis? I have been associated with Nazis in a more direct way back in the day. I spent a lot of time talking to them and researching them. The fact is however that by associating with Nazis Singlaub has created a connection to the USPA. In addition from what I read here, many of you My Friends (chuckle, chuckle chuckle I just used a McCainism) would gladly join the Death Squads of any form.jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #25 October 8, 2008 Your post #16 is still way out of line, in particular the latter part of it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites