MikeForsythe 0 #1 October 7, 2008 Obama has refused to release any college information including his thesis.........why? 1/3 of his adult life and he is refusing to let the public know about it.Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #2 October 7, 2008 Aside from his thesis, there's not much of a past...for such an "amazing" community organizer and state senator, how come there's no significant "news" about him? He grafted his opponents out of the race to get himself elected as the only candidate on the ticket in the first place, and he has nothing but two books, which I wonder if he really wrote, and 140 days in session of the US Senate.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MegaGoliath11 0 #3 October 7, 2008 what was McCain's thesis? oh yeah I remember the Keating five and the Lincoln Savings and Loan Crisis and how deregulation solves everything! Btw, I remember distinctly how network television was disrupted for days with news about that crisis. It was seconded only by Ollie North's constant voice during Iran-Contra. Hell I was only 10 or so but TV sure was boring then. be real man, you don't really want to know what his thesis was, it wouldn't matter to you, in your mind he's Obama Bin Laden out to destroy America. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeForsythe 0 #4 October 7, 2008 Quotebe real man, you don't really want to know what his thesis was, it wouldn't matter to you, in your mind he's Obama Bin Laden out to destroy America. Damn right I want to know. Considering what Michelle's thesis was there are a lot of people that want to know. If it is no big deal then just put it out there. The question is why would he want to hide it?Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #5 October 7, 2008 Quote Obama has refused to release any college information including his thesis.........why? Maybe he said something nice about black people in his thesis! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #6 October 7, 2008 Quote He grafted his opponents out of the race to get himself elected as the only candidate on the ticket in the first place, He did what? He beat out someone most of us found too bitchy (Clinton) and too boring (Edwards, and apparently too horny too), plus the usual rabble of freak candidates. Hardly any different how McCain won, though I wonder if he so much won rather than Guiliani or Romney lost through electoral incompetence. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #7 October 7, 2008 QuoteQuote He grafted his opponents out of the race to get himself elected as the only candidate on the ticket in the first place, He did what? He beat out someone most of us found too bitchy (Clinton) and too boring (Edwards, and apparently too horny too), plus the usual rabble of freak candidates. Hardly any different how McCain won, though I wonder if he so much won rather than Guiliani or Romney lost through electoral incompetence. Do a little reading into how he won his seat in the Illinois State Senate.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n23x 0 #8 October 7, 2008 I heard he called his fellow terrorist friends to terrorize everybody into following his black supremacist ways, enslaving 'whitey', and knocking up all our daughters. .jim"Don't touch my fucking Easter eggs, I'll be back monday." ~JTFC Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #9 October 7, 2008 QuoteQuotebe real man, you don't really want to know what his thesis was, it wouldn't matter to you, in your mind he's Obama Bin Laden out to destroy America. Damn right I want to know. Considering what Michelle's thesis was there are a lot of people that want to know. If it is no big deal then just put it out there. The question is why would he want to hide it? Oh, for Christ's sake. All the crucially important issues this nation is grappling with, and to debate about, and character assassination by innuendo is what you're resorting to? This really is beneath you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erroll 80 #10 October 7, 2008 QuoteOh, for Christ's sake. All the crucially important issues this nation is grappling with, and to debate about, and character assassination by innuendo is what you're resorting to? This really is beneath you. From my observations as an innocent bystander, he is just following a trend. The closer election day gets, and the bigger Obama's lead gets, the more desperate his detractors become - from McCain and Palin all the way down to the usual suspects in Speakers Corner. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #11 October 7, 2008 Quote . . . and character assassination by innuendo . . . Lucky it's just character so far. It's certainly going to be interesting to see how desperate some folks get if the polls widen much more.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeForsythe 0 #12 October 7, 2008 Quoteand character assassination by innuendo is what you're resorting to?It was a question and his character can't be assassinated at this point for this issue since we don't know what he is hiding. Like I said, the simplest way to resolve the issue is to just put it all out there, especially if as you contend that there is nothing there.Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #13 October 7, 2008 Quotewe don't know what he is hiding. Would you listen to yourself? C'mon, man. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #14 October 7, 2008 QuoteQuotewe don't know what he is hiding. Would you listen to yourself? C'mon, man. Funny, wasn't the same sort of thing coming from the Left just a few weeks ago about rape kits and abortion in regards to Palin?? Bears thinking on, doesn't it?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #15 October 7, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuotewe don't know what he is hiding. Would you listen to yourself? C'mon, man. Funny, wasn't the same sort of thing coming from the Left just a few weeks ago about rape kits and abortion in regards to Palin?? Terrible comparison. That has to do with her performance as a mayor, which her campaign promotes prominently on her resume. Whether she was a back-stabber at age 19 while competing for Miss Congeniality is considerably less relevant. QuoteBears thinking on, doesn't it? Yeah. Kodiak. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeForsythe 0 #16 October 7, 2008 QuoteWould you listen to yourself? C'mon, man.Typical Obama response. It is a simple reasonable question about 1/3 of the mans adult life. People, reporters and voters are asking about it. What is so hard about just answering the question?Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,584 #17 October 7, 2008 If there were anything really juicy one of the thousands of people who were in college with him would have sold it to People magazine or Jerry Springer for money or publicity. Kinda like we probably did land on the moon, because too many people can't keep that juicy a secret. I'm sure he wasn't an angel, and I'm not sure just how relevant it is. I wrote a major paper on syncretism in Brazil in college; that doesn't make me an adherent of macumba. Being in college is about exploring the bounds of ideas. If he wrote single papers on the Black Panthers, Bhopal, or comparing ML King and Gandhi I wouldn't think much of it (other than that those topics have been done before). Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #18 October 7, 2008 Quote Obama has refused to release any college information including his thesis.........why? Comments from the Columbia University Professor Michael Baron who taught Sen Obama’s senior thesis class (as cited by The Weekly Standard online):“My recollection is that the paper was an analysis of the evolution of the arms reduction negotiations between the Soviet Union and the United States. At that time, a hot topic in foreign policy circles was finding a way in which each country could safely reduce the large arsenal of nuclear weapons pointed at the other … For U.S. policy makers in both political parties, the aim was not disarmament, but achieving deep reductions in the Soviet nuclear arsenal and keeping a substantial and permanent American advantage. As I remember it, the paper was about those negotiations, their tactics and chances for success. Barack got an A.” No one’s hiding it. It’s completely reasonable that Sen Obama doesn’t have a copy of it. There's no reason Columbia would keep a copy of it – it was a glorified undergrad research paper - a "senior thesis." It wasn’t a requirement for the degree therefore there’s no submission (like for a master’s degree or doctoral dissertation). There’s no conspiracy. I’m a pack-rat who has moved boxes of books more times than most people would and I don’t have a copy of the senior project I did as an undergrad … although mine was on synthesis, characterization, and reactivity of novel bis-substituted asymmetric metallo-porphyrins. [nerd]-Release of Sen McCain’s Naval War College (post-grad, required submission) thesis required a FOIA, i.e., invocation of the Freedom of Information Act. Altho' the McCain campaign didn't release a copy of it, was that an intentional act of Sen McCain’s campaign to hide his past? There’s no evidence that I can see to suggest that either. Quote 1/3 of his adult life and he is refusing to let the public know about it. He wrote and published a book about his early life and formative years (first 2/3rds of his life). VR/Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #19 October 7, 2008 Quote Aside from his thesis, there's not much of a past...for such an "amazing" community organizer and state senator, how come there's no significant "news" about him? You mean other than co-authoring, with Sen Dick Lugar (R-IN), legislation (signed by President Bush) to limit the threat of nuclear terrorism and unsecured nuclear material? Or other than editor Harvard Law Review? Or other than giving up a corporate job to go work with community services (including Christian church-based ones) assisting middle class and working class people who had been downsized from manufacturing jobs? Or other than being named Crain's Chicago Business "40 under Forty" powers to be? Or other than teaching at the University of Chicago Law School, including while serving in the Illinois Senate? Or other than ‘pulling himself up by his bootstraps’ in classic American dream way to pay for his undergrad? “Not much of a past” is akin to saying Michael Phelps hasn’t done much other than swim a few laps & take a trip to China … ~~~ ~ ~~~ ~ ~~~ How do you reconcile that "lack of a past" with your own post (5 later), which seems to suggest a very different knowledge and level of past? Quote Do a little reading into how he won his seat in the Illinois State Senate. VR/Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #20 October 7, 2008 Why does McCain hide his past? Read article below: "By Baldur Schirah, The Orlando Observer, October 7, 2008 John McCain has a lot of unknowns in his past. As a matter of fact John McCain has six years of his life he can’t really account for. For six years Mr. McCain lived in Hanoi with Maoists and Communists and all sorts of left wing radicals who put our troops in harm’s way. He even signed a declaration in which he admits that the United States in an imperialist aggressor and that he has personally committed war crimes against the people of North Vietnam. John McCain, who has risen to political prominence on his image as a Vietnam POW war hero, has, inexplicably, worked very hard to hide from the public stunning information about American prisoners in Vietnam who, unlike him, didn't return home. Throughout his Senate career, McCain has quietly sponsored and pushed into federal law a set of prohibitions that keep the most revealing information about these men buried as classified documents. Thus the war hero who people would logically imagine as a determined crusader for the interests of POWs and their families became instead the strange champion of hiding the evidence and closing the books. Why is it that Mr. McCain who came back home to bask in the glory of a POW and war hero wants to hide his past? After all when interviewed his alleged torturers reminisce of a friendly chap who tought them English. Why is it that Mr. McCain wanted his fellow POW to remain behind? Is it perhaps because of the fact that aside the declaration of war crimes he also signed a declaration of loyalty to the communist rulers of Vietnam? There are many mysteries in Senator McCain’s past in his alleged capture. He lived with and among communists for six long years. He was probably brain washed sufficiently by them. After all if they would have been so bad to him, why was he the first proponent of re-establishing relations and lifting sanctions on Vietnam? Let us not forget that Vietnam till this day is a communist country aligned with communist China and Mr. McCain is their best friend and champion in the U.S. Senate."jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #21 October 7, 2008 Quote "After all if they would have been so bad to him, why was he the first proponent of re-establishing relations and lifting sanctions on Vietnam? Let us not forget that Vietnam till this day is a communist country aligned with communist China and Mr. McCain is their best friend and champion in the U.S. Senate." Sen McCain's efforts toward reconciliation with former enemies is a positive indicator, imo. Yes, Vietnam remains a communist political system and has been problems (e.g., human & civil rights violations); in the 1980s, they shifted to a market economy. VR/Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #22 October 7, 2008 So, seeing as how Kerry went to Paris to meet with the NV negotiators, y'all liberals shouldn't have any problem voting for McCain, then.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 891 #23 October 7, 2008 I'm more bothered by the fact his wife was part of the planning commission in Chicago that illegally removed Meigs field. What else are they willing to do illegally in the middle of the night in their own interests were they to attain higher powers? Initial funding by a felon, part of Daly's Chicago...and some folks are more worried about a bridge that was never built. What a sad state this nation is in. oooohhhh....cheap gas! SHINEY! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,107 #24 October 7, 2008 >Obama has refused to release any college information including his >thesis.........why? If he's like me, it's because he can't find his thesis. I did mine only 20 years ago. I can tell you what it was on (Integrated development system for Motorola processors) but there's no way I could find it. Could you find your undergrad thesis? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ion01 2 #25 October 7, 2008 www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZTo0iGc_Dw Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
