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TSA Likely to Relax Restrictions on Liquids in 2009
Posted by Scott McCartney


The Transportation Security Administration will likely relax the restrictions on carrying liquids through airport security screening checkpoints in a year, TSA Chief Kip Hawley said in an interview.

“I think realistically in one year we, the TSA and foreign colleagues, will be a position” to relax liquids restrictions,” Hawley told the Middle Seat Thursday. “We are within a year of having the ability to differentiate threat liquids through the screening process.”

TSA has been testing X-ray machines that can detect liquid materials used in bomb-making and the technology is close to be ready for widespread use. The X-ray machines themselves are already widely deployed in the U.S., but the software necessary for the liquids detection and evaluation is still being tested.

Once it’s ready, it can be rolled out quickly not only in the U.S. but also in Europe and other countries.

“We’ve seen it work in labs and we’ve had very positive communications with international colleagues,” Mr. Hawley said. Just this week the U.S. has had several days of meetings on the issue with the European Union.

After an alleged plot to use liquid explosives to down airlines surfaced in London, the U.S. has limited the volume of liquid travelers can bring to the airport to three-ounce quantities carried in a one-quart plastic bag. The restriction has been a source of frequent complaints and frustrations for travelers, and the requirement to remove the baggie and send it separately through X-ray screen slows up security lines.

One issue TSA is working on now is whether the new X-ray machines, 600 of which will be deployed by the end of this year and 900 by the end of fiscal year 2009, will be accurate enough to detect threat liquids inside bags, or whether travelers will still have to remove liquids for screening. Restrictions on the quantity of liquids might be relaxed first, still with a requirement to remove liquids from carry-on luggage.

The X-ray machines TSA needs for the liquids detection won’t be in every airport once the new software is ready, but will be at most major checkpoints. At small airports, hand-held liquids scanners might be used until the necessary equipment is deployed nationwide.

“We are deploying the hardware now to accomplish this. It’s just a matter of having the software completed,” Mr. Hawley said. “It’s not ready yet, but we are highly confident it will be effective.”

Travelers will anxiously await the day that it is.

This enitire ban was a joke from the start! All it has done is cause a lot of shit to be thrown in the trash for no reason except stupidity! Cause longer lines and made air travel even more of a hassell than it already is. What a friggin joke!

If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

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***TSA Likely to Relax Restrictions on Liquids in 2009
Posted by Scott McCartney


The Transportation Security Administration will likely relax the restrictions on carrying liquids through airport security screening checkpoints in a year, TSA Chief Kip Hawley said in an interview.

“I think realistically in one year we, the TSA and foreign colleagues, will be a position” to relax liquids restrictions,” Hawley told the Middle Seat Thursday. “We are within a year of having the ability to differentiate threat liquids through the screening process.”

TSA has been testing X-ray machines that can detect liquid materials used in bomb-making and the technology is close to be ready for widespread use. The X-ray machines themselves are already widely deployed in the U.S., but the software necessary for the liquids detection and evaluation is still being tested.

Hmmm ... I'm curious as to what fundamental X-ray-based technology is planned to differentiate peroxide-containing liquids/gels from other liquids/gels.

VR/Marg

Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters.
Tibetan Buddhist saying

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If Peroxide based products are going to set alarms bells off, then airports in Essex are going to be on constant alert




P.S Essex is our county of bleached blond chavs!!!

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

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This enitire ban was a joke from the start! All it has done is cause a lot of shit to be thrown in the trash for no reason except stupidity! Cause longer lines and made air travel even more of a hassell than it already is. What a friggin joke!

Are you sure?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_63

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_transatlantic_aircraft_plot

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Terrorists have tried several times in the past to blow up airliners with liquid explosives...

The U.S. government has focused on the threat of liquid explosives since at least 1995. That's when they learned about a plot in the Philippines to plant bombs on 11 airliners bound for the United States. The plotters apparently wanted to use liquid nitroglycerin. They planned to smuggle it aboard in bottles made for contact lens solution. But the plan came apart when there was a fire in the apartment where the bombs were being made. (A test run for that plot, a plane bound for Tokyo, resulted in the detonation of a liquid explosive in-air. One person was killed, and pilots were able to land the plane.)

Experts believe that terrorists have since moved on to use the type of explosives previously described, where the components are carried separately and then mixed at the site, to reduce their instability.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5633568

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This enitire ban was a joke from the start! All it has done is cause a lot of shit to be thrown in the trash for no reason except stupidity! Cause longer lines and made air travel even more of a hassell than it already is. What a friggin joke!

Are you sure?

I strongly suspect that what the OP was referring to as a "joke" was NOT the desire of terrorists to do harm but to the effectiveness and unintended outcomes of the DHS-TSA policy.

Synthesis of TATP & HMTD (use 30% H2O2, not the kind one can buy in the supermarket, & dry ice to limit polymeric products that are not thermodynamically unstable) is harder than most portrayals.

VR/Marg

Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters.
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TSA Likely to Relax Restrictions on Liquids in 2009
Posted by Scott McCartney


The Transportation Security Administration will likely relax the restrictions on carrying liquids through airport security screening checkpoints in a year, TSA Chief Kip Hawley said in an interview.

“I think realistically in one year we, the TSA and foreign colleagues, will be a position” to relax liquids restrictions,” Hawley told the Middle Seat Thursday. “We are within a year of having the ability to differentiate threat liquids through the screening process.”

TSA has been testing X-ray machines that can detect liquid materials used in bomb-making and the technology is close to be ready for widespread use. The X-ray machines themselves are already widely deployed in the U.S., but the software necessary for the liquids detection and evaluation is still being tested.

Once it’s ready, it can be rolled out quickly not only in the U.S. but also in Europe and other countries.

“We’ve seen it work in labs and we’ve had very positive communications with international colleagues,” Mr. Hawley said. Just this week the U.S. has had several days of meetings on the issue with the European Union.

After an alleged plot to use liquid explosives to down airlines surfaced in London, the U.S. has limited the volume of liquid travelers can bring to the airport to three-ounce quantities carried in a one-quart plastic bag. The restriction has been a source of frequent complaints and frustrations for travelers, and the requirement to remove the baggie and send it separately through X-ray screen slows up security lines.

One issue TSA is working on now is whether the new X-ray machines, 600 of which will be deployed by the end of this year and 900 by the end of fiscal year 2009, will be accurate enough to detect threat liquids inside bags, or whether travelers will still have to remove liquids for screening. Restrictions on the quantity of liquids might be relaxed first, still with a requirement to remove liquids from carry-on luggage.

The X-ray machines TSA needs for the liquids detection won’t be in every airport once the new software is ready, but will be at most major checkpoints. At small airports, hand-held liquids scanners might be used until the necessary equipment is deployed nationwide.

“We are deploying the hardware now to accomplish this. It’s just a matter of having the software completed,” Mr. Hawley said. “It’s not ready yet, but we are highly confident it will be effective.”

Travelers will anxiously await the day that it is.

This enitire ban was a joke from the start! All it has done is cause a lot of shit to be thrown in the trash for no reason except stupidity! Cause longer lines and made air travel even more of a hassell than it already is. What a friggin joke!

Don't forget lighters and nail clippers. Seen how many lighters are in the trash can. BUT matches are OK. The bastards even stole a Buck knife out of my CHECKED luggage. Bag was fully unzipped when it arrived.

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

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BUT matches are OK.

I always found that odd considering if the shoebomber had matches.....

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If Peroxide based products are going to set alarms bells off, then airports in Essex the UK are going to be on constant alert




P.S EssexThe UK is a county of bleached blond chavs!!!

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

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They is all tar'd with the same brush then fella, them there chavs, eh? I forgot the Mancs, Geordies, Taffs etc.... And so you're probably right too, at that!!

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

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Shrewsbury was also horrifying.

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

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Hmmm ... I'm curious as to what fundamental X-ray-based technology is planned to differentiate peroxide-containing liquids/gels from other liquids/gels.

VR/Marg

ditto

"Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ."
-NickDG

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At the airport about 11months ago my Mrs wasn't. The pokey finger came out!

'Just get yer make up into the bag woman, FFS!'

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome