MikeForsythe 0 #1 September 30, 2008 HERETime and pressure will always show you who a person really is! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,227 #2 September 30, 2008 QuoteHERE It is indeed shocking that in 2004, the date of these videos, the Republicans controlled the White House, the Senate, and the House, and all the congressional committees, yet did nothing about it. Shame on the Republicans.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #3 September 30, 2008 Quote Quote HERE It is indeed shocking that in 2004, the date of these videos, the Republicans controlled the White House, the Senate, and the House, and all the congressional committees, yet did nothing about it. Shame on the Republicans. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #4 September 30, 2008 Quote Quote HERE It is indeed shocking that in 2004, the date of these videos, the Republicans controlled the White House, the Senate, and the House, and all the congressional committees, yet did nothing about it. Shame on the Republicans. Filibuster???? Never heard of that ?? And yet, even when they are caught on C span video you defend the crooks!!! Not to mention that this started in 1997AND, then the best part, the two biggest crooks presently work for Obama who is the second largest reciever of political funds from Freddie and FannieCome on kallend, even YOU can spin your way out of this one"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #5 September 30, 2008 QuoteQuoteHERE It is indeed shocking that in 2004, the date of these videos, the Republicans controlled the White House, the Senate, and the House, and all the congressional committees, yet did nothing about it. Shame on the Republicans. shame on democrats - remember you need 60 votes in the senate and that is were it died. can't believe you won't even believe the video of the dems and raines. is the left that blind? or should i say deaf? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #6 September 30, 2008 Quote Quote Quote HERE It is indeed shocking that in 2004, the date of these videos, the Republicans controlled the White House, the Senate, and the House, and all the congressional committees, yet did nothing about it. Shame on the Republicans. Filibuster???? Never heard of that ?? And yet, even when they are caught on C span video you defend the crooks!!! Not to mention that this started in 1997AND, then the best part, the two biggest crooks presently work for Obama who is the second largest reciever of political funds from Freddie and FannieCome on kallend, even YOU can spin your way out of this one it is a shame that the hate for one man, (Bush) can cause very intelegent people to close their eyes and ears to the facts and that they might be wrong or do the wrong thing just to spite their hate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,227 #7 September 30, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteHERE It is indeed shocking that in 2004, the date of these videos, the Republicans controlled the White House, the Senate, and the House, and all the congressional committees, yet did nothing about it. Shame on the Republicans. shame on democrats - remember you need 60 votes in the senate and that is were it died. can't believe you won't even believe the video of the dems and raines. is the left that blind? or should i say deaf? What died? Was there a bill, and if so what was it? all the video showed were a bunch of speakers in the HOUSE, not the Senate.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,227 #8 September 30, 2008 Quote Quote Quote HERE It is indeed shocking that in 2004, the date of these videos, the Republicans controlled the White House, the Senate, and the House, and all the congressional committees, yet did nothing about it. Shame on the Republicans. Filibuster???? Never heard of that ?? And yet, even when they are caught on C span video you defend the crooks!!! Not to mention that this started in 1997AND, then the best part, the two biggest crooks presently work for Obama who is the second largest reciever of political funds from Freddie and FannieCome on kallend, even YOU can spin your way out of this one Rick Davis is McCain's campaign manager. The guy whose firm made $15,000 a month from Fannie/Freddie until last month. The guy who made nearly $2M as a fannie/freddie lobbiest.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,227 #9 September 30, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote HERE It is indeed shocking that in 2004, the date of these videos, the Republicans controlled the White House, the Senate, and the House, and all the congressional committees, yet did nothing about it. Shame on the Republicans. Filibuster???? Never heard of that ?? And yet, even when they are caught on C span video you defend the crooks!!! Not to mention that this started in 1997AND, then the best part, the two biggest crooks presently work for Obama who is the second largest reciever of political funds from Freddie and FannieCome on kallend, even YOU can spin your way out of this one it is a shame that the hate for one man, (Bush) can cause very intelegent people to close their eyes and ears to the facts and that they might be wrong or do the wrong thing just to spite their hate. Well, there's someone on this forum that keeps claiming that loans in low income neighborhoods caused this financial crisis, but he has yet to produce one shred of evidence that this is the case. In fact, the only data he produced showed exactly the opposite but he STILL continues to make the claim.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #10 September 30, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteHERE It is indeed shocking that in 2004, the date of these videos, the Republicans controlled the White House, the Senate, and the House, and all the congressional committees, yet did nothing about it. Shame on the Republicans. shame on democrats - remember you need 60 votes in the senate and that is were it died. can't believe you won't even believe the video of the dems and raines. is the left that blind? or should i say deaf? What died? Was there a bill, and if so what was it? all the video showed were a bunch of speakers. read this beltwaysnark.com/2008/09/16/john-mccain-supported-a-proposal-for-an-agency-to-oversee-fannie-and-freddiein-2005/ www.govtrack.us/congress/record.xpd?id=109-s20060525-16&bill=s109-190 sorry never got to vote was killed before vote Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #11 September 30, 2008 no i said subprime loans are the problem - low income subprime is were it started and got fueled from there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,227 #12 September 30, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote It is indeed shocking that in 2004, the date of these videos, the Republicans controlled the White House, the Senate, and the House, and all the congressional committees, yet did nothing about it. Shame on the Republicans. shame on democrats - remember you need 60 votes in the senate and that is were it died. can't believe you won't even believe the video of the dems and raines. is the left that blind? or should i say deaf? What died? Was there a bill, and if so what was it? all the video showed were a bunch of speakers. read this beltwaysnark.com/2008/09/16/john-mccain-supported-a-proposal-for-an-agency-to-oversee-fannie-and-freddiein-2005/ www.govtrack.us/congress/record.xpd?id=109-s20060525-16&bill=s109-190 sorry never got to vote was killed before vote NO FILIBUSTER? You means the GOP simply failed to pass it out of the banking committee they CONTROLLED and CHAIRED! Thank you for making my point so effectively. You'll like [url "http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/09/24/john-mccain-the-fundamental-deregulator/">this.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martlet 0 #13 September 30, 2008 Then there is this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,227 #14 September 30, 2008 Then there is this. Plenty of money to spread around, apparently.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeForsythe 0 #15 September 30, 2008 Quoteall the video showed were a bunch of speakers in the HOUSE, not the Senate. No, it showed a bunch of DEMOCRATS in denial of the facts in which we know the outcome. Again, the democrats were wrong!!!Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #16 September 30, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote HERE It is indeed shocking that in 2004, the date of these videos, the Republicans controlled the White House, the Senate, and the House, and all the congressional committees, yet did nothing about it. Shame on the Republicans. Filibuster???? Never heard of that ?? And yet, even when they are caught on C span video you defend the crooks!!! Not to mention that this started in 1997AND, then the best part, the two biggest crooks presently work for Obama who is the second largest reciever of political funds from Freddie and FannieCome on kallend, even YOU can spin your way out of this one Rick Davis is McCain's campaign manager. The guy whose firm made $15,000 a month from Fannie/Freddie until last month. The guy who made nearly $2M as a fannie/freddie lobbiest. Nope, last check two years ago. No income and asset level in the company (that is getting paid) frozen for him. IF he was involved in the cooking of the books and not just a lobbiest (which last time I checked is still legal) then you might have a bitch. As it is, you dont. HE didnt defer 200 million in expenses so HE and Jamie could get 1.2 and .78 million dollar bonuses. HE did not make 90 Million dollars in 6 years from Fannie. HE did not have to pay back 25 million in fines and excesses. YOU are full of Bush Derangement Syndrome and a Democractic hack (for this topic anyway) Care to try again?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #17 October 1, 2008 Quote Then there is this. Plenty of money to spread around, apparently. Nice opinion piece there sir kallendYou keep speaking to the CRA and JUST the sub-prime loans. I am going to step out on a limb and ask, are you just posting to the mortgage loans? Do you know what the CRA also FORCED banks to do? If you do, you have been dishonest in your posts. If you dont, you better bone up."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,227 #18 October 1, 2008 www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVuQbRW5ADE You are throwing stones from a glass house.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #19 October 1, 2008 Quote www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVuQbRW5ADE You are throwing stones from a glass house. AAaahhhh Yet ANOTHER topic change dear kallend? Start and new thread and admit you got nothing to stand on here in this one"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,227 #20 October 1, 2008 QuoteQuote www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVuQbRW5ADE You are throwing stones from a glass house. AAaahhhh Yet ANOTHER topic change dear kallend? Start and new thread and admit you got nothing to stand on here in this one Tried looking up Gramm Leach Bliley Act? The one that McCain's advisor Phil Gramm co-authored. Try looking up "Keating 5". Try looking up "Enron Loophole". In addition to not making a case, you are tossing stones from a very exposed glass house.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #21 October 1, 2008 Quote Quote Quote www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVuQbRW5ADE You are throwing stones from a glass house. AAaahhhh Yet ANOTHER topic change dear kallend? Start and new thread and admit you got nothing to stand on here in this one Tried looking up Gramm Leach Bliley Act? The one that McCain's advisor Phil Gramm co-authored. Try looking up "Keating 5". Try looking up "Enron Loophole". In addition to not making a case, you are tossing stones from a very exposed glass house. You are pissing on the wrong tree buddy. As I have stated many times I dont like McCain. Even though much of what you post about him is either out of context or misleading. Just like the very neutral MSNBC youtube link you just put up. But now, you are getting your ass stomped on this thread and you yet again, try and redirect the topic. Why dear sir? Is that what our teachers do when they are wrong?Shhhhheeesssshh buddy, try and focus and stay on topic for a change"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #22 October 1, 2008 AS bad as McCain sucks, this should give you an idea how fucked up a canidate Obama is? Hell, Hillary is better than Obama This is dam sad "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,227 #23 October 1, 2008 Quote Just like the very neutral MSNBC youtube link you just put up. Oh, like the video in the OP was unbiased.You have some strange ideas, Marc. And since you insist on remaining on one small topic, the GOP had control of Senate, House and White House, chairmanship of the banking committee, a majority on the banking committee, weren't stopped by a filibuster, and still didn't get their bill passed. And McCain's campaign manager got $2M from Fannie/Freddie to lobby against regulatory reform. And McCain himself braggs over and over about being a "deregulator". Nice glass house on a hill you've built there.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #24 October 1, 2008 Quote Quote Just like the very neutral MSNBC youtube link you just put up. Oh, like the video in the OP was unbiased.You have some strange ideas, Marc. Anything on topic or have you given up?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,227 #25 October 1, 2008 In 2005 the GOP had control of Senate, House and White House, chairmanship of the banking committee, a majority on the banking committee, weren't stopped by a filibuster, and still didn't get their bill passed. Talk about absence of leadership! And McCain's campaign manager got $2M from Fannie/Freddie to lobby against regulatory reform. And McCain himself braggs over and over about being a "deregulator". And McCain supported Gramm Leach Bliley. And McCain's advisor Phil Gramm accepted over $750,000 from UBS, which has over $18BILLION in sub-prime mortgages. And McCain's advisor Phil Gramm sponsored the legislation creating the Enron Loophole while his wife was working for Enron. Nice glass house on a hill you've built there.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
