Still Calling it Right -- Congressional Leadership Drops Another Ball

[kallend 2,227]

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Let me make this REALLY simple for you, professor, since you're having a hard time understanding many things here today.

I DON'T CARE THAT BOEHNER FAILED TO DELIVER 66% OF REPUBLICAN VOTES!!! He should have delivered 0%!! He's wrong on the bill, so's Bush, so's Pelosi, so's Obama, so's McCain... awww hell, anyone who wants this package is wrong.

I DO think it is funny that your head boss lady was going to save America by getting this bill passed... and couldn't even get it passed with her own party people. Her numbers alone could have passed it. She failed. She got on her high horse, grandstanding, and it got put in her face. Just face it, it is LAUGHABLE that the people that were supposed to be for the bill, can't even get it passed. As I said before, conservatives should be against it from the start anyway so good job to the 66%ers!!

Blunt (Republican whip) was on the radio this afternoon. He seems to have a quite totally different view of things than you do. But I expect you know better than the leaders of both parties and the Treasury secretary.

PS cut back on the caffeine.

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[kelpdiver 2]

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I DO think it is funny that your head boss lady was going to save America by getting this bill passed...

I think it's much funnier that McCain claimed credit for getting it passed.

That you think this was a partisan bill is also pretty amusing, given it had the support of the current President as well as the GOP nominee. And yet Pelosi is the one that failed...this is the sort of logic that passes for October in a leap year.

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And the bill was pushed by Boehner and Blunt.

So to reprise:

Pelosi failed to deliver 41%
Boehner failed to deliver 66%

I'm starting to worry about you. Really.

Pelosi could have passed the bill on her own with her people that she couldn't deliver. These are people who are all for government "taking care" of people, economy, etc. The 66% of republicans that voted against, stood up for what is right (and in line with conservative thought). The fact that some republicans are FOR the bill doesn't make it right.

Pelosi is a failure. She could have done it all from within the dem party and couldn't do it. Can you not see that?

Oh well, carry on pointing the other way... even when it's irrelevant.

At this point I am not sure she is a failure. It appears the bill failing is what she wanted.

Hmmmm, we will see

The only way she would have let it pass was if she had more votes from the other side.

Still going with the conspiracy theories, eh?

Wow you are really desperate

I simply made a statement of a report I heard.

Never said well here you go. You know, like you do.

Who wrote "It appears the bill failing is what she wanted." then? Someone stole your password?

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At this point I am not sure she is a failure. It appears the bill failing is what she wanted.

Hmmmm, we will see

The only way she would have let it pass was if she had more votes from the other side.

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Still going with the conspiracy theories, eh?

The dem leadership had made it pretty clear that this was a bill both sides would have to support. The Dem's wouldn't pass it on their own (by design) and the Rep's would have to stand behind it too

While I agree with you , why do you suppose this is the case??????

There is a political reason if you think about it

NO KIDDING, DICK TRACY! Wow, what a remarkable insight from Marc Rush.

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And the bill was pushed by Boehner and Blunt.

So to reprise:

Pelosi failed to deliver 41%
Boehner failed to deliver 66%

I'm starting to worry about you. Really.

Pelosi could have passed the bill on her own with her people that she couldn't deliver. These are people who are all for government "taking care" of people, economy, etc. The 66% of republicans that voted against, stood up for what is right (and in line with conservative thought). The fact that some republicans are FOR the bill doesn't make it right.

Pelosi is a failure. She could have done it all from within the dem party and couldn't do it. Can you not see that?

Oh well, carry on pointing the other way... even when it's irrelevant.

At this point I am not sure she is a failure. It appears the bill failing is what she wanted.

Hmmmm, we will see

The only way she would have let it pass was if she had more votes from the other side.

Still going with the conspiracy theories, eh?

Wow you are really desperate

I simply made a statement of a report I heard.

Never said well here you go. You know, like you do.

Who wrote "It appears the bill failing is what she wanted." then? Someone stole your password?

Nope, no one got my password. I wrote that. In the proper context (of which you have proven you care little about) I said it appeared now didnt I!



Oh your games of (attempted) are more funny by the day

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,227]

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And the bill was pushed by Boehner and Blunt.

So to reprise:

Pelosi failed to deliver 41%
Boehner failed to deliver 66%

I'm starting to worry about you. Really.

Pelosi could have passed the bill on her own with her people that she couldn't deliver. These are people who are all for government "taking care" of people, economy, etc. The 66% of republicans that voted against, stood up for what is right (and in line with conservative thought). The fact that some republicans are FOR the bill doesn't make it right.

Pelosi is a failure. She could have done it all from within the dem party and couldn't do it. Can you not see that?

Oh well, carry on pointing the other way... even when it's irrelevant.

At this point I am not sure she is a failure. It appears the bill failing is what she wanted.

Hmmmm, we will see

The only way she would have let it pass was if she had more votes from the other side.

Still going with the conspiracy theories, eh?

Wow you are really desperate

I simply made a statement of a report I heard.

Never said well here you go. You know, like you do.

Who wrote "It appears the bill failing is what she wanted." then? Someone stole your password?

Nope, no one got my password. I wrote that. In the proper context (of which you have proven you care little about) I said it appeared now didnt I!

Beats me - your syntax is so mangled you could claim to MEAN anything. The rest of us can only try to interpret what you actually write.

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And the bill was pushed by Boehner and Blunt.

So to reprise:

Pelosi failed to deliver 41%
Boehner failed to deliver 66%

I'm starting to worry about you. Really.

Pelosi could have passed the bill on her own with her people that she couldn't deliver. These are people who are all for government "taking care" of people, economy, etc. The 66% of republicans that voted against, stood up for what is right (and in line with conservative thought). The fact that some republicans are FOR the bill doesn't make it right.

Pelosi is a failure. She could have done it all from within the dem party and couldn't do it. Can you not see that?

Oh well, carry on pointing the other way... even when it's irrelevant.

At this point I am not sure she is a failure. It appears the bill failing is what she wanted.

Hmmmm, we will see

The only way she would have let it pass was if she had more votes from the other side.

Still going with the conspiracy theories, eh?

Wow you are really desperate

I simply made a statement of a report I heard.

Never said well here you go. You know, like you do.

Who wrote "It appears the bill failing is what she wanted." then? Someone stole your password?

Nope, no one got my password. I wrote that. In the proper context (of which you have proven you care little about) I said it appeared now didnt I!

Beats me - your syntax is so mangled you could claim to MEAN anything. The rest of us can only try to interpret what you actually write.

Nice cop out

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Trent 0]

Unlike you, I don't get my talking points from a party's leadership. Sorry. I know it makes it easier for you if you can try to box people in a bit. So sorry.

I know this bill is garbage. We've got Boxer trying to put mental health funding in it now too? Insanity! The bailout is a mistake, the riders they're putting in there are insane, voting for it is WRONG. Don't be mad that more of "you guys" are wrong than republicans. So, yes, as far as the bill goes... I think I do know better than those voting for it.

Worry more about your hypocrisy than my caffeine intake.

Just admit that if the Dems wanted this, they could have had it on their own. Instead, they blame others. You just can't win this one... sorry.

Oh, hello again!

[Trent 0]

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I think it's much funnier that McCain claimed credit for getting it passed.

I'd like to see a quote for that.

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That you think this was a partisan bill is also pretty amusing, given it had the support of the current President as well as the GOP nominee. And yet Pelosi is the one that failed...this is the sort of logic that passes for October in a leap year.

I think that it didn't pass is a good thing... so I win anyway. That Pelosi was TRYING to get it passed and was going to save us all (a la her speech), and DIDN'T... means, yeah, she failed. I'm glad she did too. Glad that the republican's "failed" to deliver 66% of their people too. But for Dems to blame anyone but themselves when they had the numbers to pass this bill alone is lunacy.

Seems like they'd want to take all the credit for saving us poor souls... or maybe they really don't think it's a good idea and it's all BS anyway and they don't want to take the BLAME when it blows up in their faces.

One more time... I don't care who supports it. I don't.

Oh, hello again!

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I think it's much funnier that McCain claimed credit for getting it passed.

I'd like to see a quote for that.

there's a whole thread on it here, opened by billvon. It's not a quote - it's was an ad in the papers on Monday.

[Trent 0]

You brought it up... show me the quote.

Oh, hello again!

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[kallend 2,227]

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Unlike you, I don't get my talking points from a party's leadership. Sorry. I know it makes it easier for you if you can try to box people in a bit. So sorry.

I know this bill is garbage. We've got Boxer trying to put mental health funding in it now too? Insanity! The bailout is a mistake, the riders they're putting in there are insane, voting for it is WRONG. Don't be mad that more of "you guys" are wrong than republicans. So, yes, as far as the bill goes... I think I do know better than those voting for it.

Worry more about your hypocrisy than my caffeine intake.

Just admit that if the Dems wanted this, they could have had it on their own. Instead, they blame others. You just can't win this one... sorry.

Trent, I know you aren't clueless, so stop pretending.

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[Trent 0]

That looks nothing like taking credit for getting it passed. It looks like he's chiding Obama because he's TRYING to get something done. I don't see where there's credit being taken. Is that all the quote is? Kinda weak.

Oh, hello again!

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Trent, I know you aren't clueless, so stop pretending.

Have you lost your mind?

Go one-line someone else, your BS doesn't work with me. Sorry you can't contribute anything other than weak little jabs.

Oh, hello again!

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Trent, I know you aren't clueless, so stop pretending.

Have you lost your mind?

Go one-line someone else, your BS doesn't work with me. Sorry you can't contribute anything other than weak little jabs.

Trent, your position is absurd. You're blaming the dems because a supposedly bi-partisan bill that originated in the GOP controlled Treasury and was promoted by the GOP leader and GOP whip in the House failed because the majority of Republicans went against their leadership and voted against it. The majority of "Nays" were GOP.

Sure shows what a lame duck Bush is, though.

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And it shows how the dems failed to pass the same bill that they supposedly supported too. Or do you not understand what "bi-partisan" means?

So you're saying that the Dems shouldn't do what they supposedly think is right unless they get equal votes from Reps so that they can share blame when it blows up in their faces? If they thought it was such a good idea, which most of the Dems apparently do judging by their votes... you'd think they'd just try to get it passed and take all the credit.

Hmmm....

What you fail to understand, again, is that some of us think for ourselves here and don't care where POS legislation comes from. Seeing who supports POS legislation is telling, however. It does not bode well for the country today. But hey, I guess we can all stop paying mortgages now!! Yay!

Oh, hello again!