McCain builds winning coalition for bailout vote!

[billvon 3,111]

Someone has got to talk to his campaign and tell them to stop declaring victory before the event itself:

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McCain takes credit for bill before it loses
Mike Allen
September 29, 2008 05:39 PM EST

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and his top aides took credit for building a winning bailout coalition – hours before the vote failed and stocks tanked.

Shortly before the vote, McCain had bragged about his involvement and mocked Sen. Barack Obama for staying on the sidelines.

“I've never been afraid of stepping in to solve problems for the American people, and I'm not going to stop now,” McCain told a rally in Columbus, Ohio. “Sen. Obama took a very different approach to the crisis our country faced. At first he didn't want to get involved. Then he was monitoring the situation.” McCain, grinning, flashed a sarcastic thumbs up.

“That's not leadership. That's watching from the sidelines,” he added to cheers and applause.
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Coming up tomorrow:

McCain campaign announces "PALIN WINS THURSDAY DEBATE!"
McCain congratulates Denver Broncos for winning Super Bowl XLIII
Palin repels Russian invasion
McCain wins election by a landslide!
McCain heads parade to celebrate recovery of US economy

[grimmie 186]

If it wasn't so damn sad, that would be some funny stuff BillV!

[kelpdiver 2]

Al Gore had nothing on this guy.

[rushmc 23]

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Someone has got to talk to his campaign and tell them to stop declaring victory before the event itself:

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McCain takes credit for bill before it loses
Mike Allen
September 29, 2008 05:39 PM EST

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and his top aides took credit for building a winning bailout coalition – hours before the vote failed and stocks tanked.

Shortly before the vote, McCain had bragged about his involvement and mocked Sen. Barack Obama for staying on the sidelines.

“I've never been afraid of stepping in to solve problems for the American people, and I'm not going to stop now,” McCain told a rally in Columbus, Ohio. “Sen. Obama took a very different approach to the crisis our country faced. At first he didn't want to get involved. Then he was monitoring the situation.” McCain, grinning, flashed a sarcastic thumbs up.

“That's not leadership. That's watching from the sidelines,” he added to cheers and applause.
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Coming up tomorrow:

McCain campaign announces "PALIN WINS THURSDAY DEBATE!"
McCain congratulates Denver Broncos for winning Super Bowl XLIII
Palin repels Russian invasion
McCain wins election by a landslide!
McCain heads parade to celebrate recovery of US economy

Hell sir, it was his turn, I mean, the Dems tried to say that there was a bill before he got to Washington so he could not take credit. Turn about is fair play

(this is a fun game and I cant wait until your next play!!)

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 3,111]

>Hell sir, it was his turn, I mean, the Dems tried to say that there was a
>bill before he got to Washington so he could not take credit.

?? What are you talking about? No one was claiming a bill had been passed before he got to Washington. He's been the only one claiming that it's been passed.

[headoverheels 334]

Hey, at his age, he can't afford to wait around.

[jcd11235 0]

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Someone has got to talk to his campaign and tell them to stop declaring victory before the event itself:

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McCain takes credit for bill before it loses
Mike Allen
September 29, 2008 05:39 PM EST

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and his top aides took credit for building a winning bailout coalition – hours before the vote failed and stocks tanked.

Shortly before the vote, McCain had bragged about his involvement and mocked Sen. Barack Obama for staying on the sidelines.

“I've never been afraid of stepping in to solve problems for the American people, and I'm not going to stop now,” McCain told a rally in Columbus, Ohio. “Sen. Obama took a very different approach to the crisis our country faced. At first he didn't want to get involved. Then he was monitoring the situation.” McCain, grinning, flashed a sarcastic thumbs up.

“That's not leadership. That's watching from the sidelines,” he added to cheers and applause.

It sounds like McCain builds winning coalitions as well as Bush does. Did McCain pretend to land on an aircraft carrier just before he declared his success?

Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

[MikeForsythe 0]

I thought GWB was the biggest screw-up of all time but Nancy Pelosi is damn sure fighting for first place. All she had to do is get up and thank everyone for their bipartisan work and support and it would have been done. Instead she picks a fight with the very people that she needs help from and even pisses off some of her own party. No wonder she has a 9% approval rating.

And if you want to really be scared just remember the she is third in secession as POTUS. So if what Bill is saying comes true and whoever becomes president dies the SHE will be a heartbeat from the oval office.

Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is!

[grimmie 186]

It looks like this vote went along re election lines.
Running for election, noe.

[Muenkel 0]

He's accomplished a hell of a lot more than Obama has in so many areas.

The fact that you will back the candidate whose resume can fit on about 3 pages over the candidate whose resume could be a book during these most critical times really baffles me.

Your candidate talks a good game but has very little history to back up his promises. But hell, give him the keys to the White House.

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Chris

[alw 0]

This one is so simple I would think even you could figure it out Bill. The party in power means they don't have to count on the minority party.

GOP causcus before McCain 4 ayes, after McCain 65 ayes.

If Obama could have delivered 12 out of the 95 nays it would have passed. If Pelosi could have delivered 12 of her 95 nays it would have passed. If bloviant Barney could have delivered 12 Democrat nays that were cast by his own committee (how sad was that!) it would have passed.

Don't blame it on anyone but the party in power - that's what they are supposed to dd - get it done!

Cheez what winers.

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Every day is a bonus - every night is an adventure.

[rushmc 23]

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>Hell sir, it was his turn, I mean, the Dems tried to say that there was a
>bill before he got to Washington so he could not take credit.

?? What are you talking about? No one was claiming a bill had been passed before he got to Washington. He's been the only one claiming that it's been passed.

First trip (you must have missed it) then they blame him for it falling apart. (google dirty harry)



You really need to open up where you get your news

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[councilman24 37]

Bill didn't blame McCaine for it failing. He blamed him for taking credit for it passing before it did and before it failed. Just like the ad placed that declared McCaine won the debate before it even happened! (And before he didn't.)

If McCaine keeps claiming victory before the event maybe eventually he'll get one right. He's just hoping it's the 11/4 election.

I'm old for my age.
Terry Urban
D-8631
FAA DPRE

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Bill didn't blame McCaine for it failing. He blamed him for taking credit for it passing before it did and before it failed. Just like the ad placed that declared McCaine won the debate before it even happened! (And before he didn't.)

If McCaine keeps claiming victory before the event maybe eventually he'll get one right. He's just hoping it's the 11/4 election.

McCain did have it passed before polozi opened her stupid piehole because she wanted to tell america the dem's fix the problem that the gop caused, when in fact they are fixing a dem caused problem. she isn't very bright, but then again she is from Sanfran and we all know what the people are like there. (were's the icon for getting butfucked?)

[headoverheels 334]

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Bill didn't blame McCaine for it failing. He blamed him for taking credit for it passing before it did and before it failed. Just like the ad placed that declared McCaine won the debate before it even happened! (And before he didn't.)

If McCaine keeps claiming victory before the event maybe eventually he'll get one right. He's just hoping it's the 11/4 election.

I think he wanted to use "Mission Accomplished" but someone else stole his thunder.

[riddler 0]

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GOP causcus before McCain 4 ayes, after McCain 65 ayes.

If Obama could have delivered 12 out of the 95 nays it would have passed. If Pelosi could have delivered 12 of her 95 nays it would have passed. If bloviant Barney could have delivered 12 Democrat nays that were cast by his own committee (how sad was that!)

That is one of the more complicated justifications I've heard lately.

Simplified - Dems voted 60% to pass the bill, Republicans only voted 1/3 to pass. Then when it failed, Republicans still blamed the Democrats for it failing! What kind of math are they using, anyway?

Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD

[councilman24 37]

New math. Oh wait, isn't the new one fuzzy math?

I'm old for my age.
Terry Urban
D-8631
FAA DPRE

[billvon 3,111]

>McCain did have it passed before polozi opened her stupid
>piehole because she wanted to tell america the dem's fix the problem
>that the gop caused, when in fact they are fixing a dem caused problem.
>she isn't very bright, but then again she is from Sanfran and we all know
>what the people are like there. (were's the icon for getting butfucked?)

I think this post may hit a new low in terms of intentional misunderstanding, homophobia and doublespeak.

[marks2065 0]

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>McCain did have it passed before polozi opened her stupid
>piehole because she wanted to tell america the dem's fix the problem
>that the gop caused, when in fact they are fixing a dem caused problem.
>she isn't very bright, but then again she is from Sanfran and we all know
>what the people are like there. (were's the icon for getting butfucked?)

I think this post may hit a new low in terms of intentional misunderstanding, homophobia and doublespeak.

we wouldn't need this bailout if raines,Dodd, clinton, carter and the rest of the cronnies didn't fuck with the system. and that is fact that has been put on these threads with news articles from 1978,1999, and others.

[kallend 2,146]

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>McCain did have it passed before polozi opened her stupid
>piehole because she wanted to tell america the dem's fix the problem
>that the gop caused, when in fact they are fixing a dem caused problem.
>she isn't very bright, but then again she is from Sanfran and we all know
>what the people are like there. (were's the icon for getting butfucked?)

I think this post may hit a new low in terms of intentional misunderstanding, homophobia and doublespeak.

we wouldn't need this bailout if raines,Dodd, clinton, carter and the rest of the cronnies didn't fuck with the system. and that is fact that has been put on these threads with news articles from 1978,1999, and others.

When you can produce EVIDENCE that loans produced as a direct result of those actions were the actual cause of THIS CRISIS, you will have a point. So far you have failed to do that despite repeated requests. In fact the only data you have provided so far shows that the loans you despise outperformed the other subprime loans.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[lummy 4]

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we wouldn't need this bailout if raines,Dodd, clinton, carter and the rest of the cronnies didn't fuck with the system. and that is fact that has been put on these threads with news articles from 1978,1999, and others.

Does it REALLY matter who's to blame for how we got here? What matters is how we get ourselves out of this mess.

I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1

[kallend 2,146]

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we wouldn't need this bailout if raines,Dodd, clinton, carter and the rest of the cronnies didn't fuck with the system. and that is fact that has been put on these threads with news articles from 1978,1999, and others.

Does it REALLY matter who's to blame for how we got here? What matters is how we get ourselves out of this mess.

In the short term you are correct. In the long term, those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[lummy 4]

Very true. However, I don't see how pointing fingers at this Republican or that Democrat is helping solve anything. Al it's doing is pissing both sides off

I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1

[livendive 8]

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GOP causcus before McCain 4 ayes, after McCain 65 ayes.

If Obama could have delivered 12 out of the 95 nays it would have passed. If Pelosi could have delivered 12 of her 95 nays it would have passed. If bloviant Barney could have delivered 12 Democrat nays that were cast by his own committee (how sad was that!)

That is one of the more complicated justifications I've heard lately.

Simplified - Dems voted 60% to pass the bill, Republicans only voted 1/3 to pass. Then when it failed, Republicans still blamed the Democrats for it failing! What kind of math are they using, anyway?

I wouldn't try applying logic to these discussions, as it appears at least a couple of the participants are immune.

Blues,
Dave

"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!"
(drink Mountain Dew)

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I wouldn't try applying logic to these discussions, as it appears at least a couple of the participants are immune.

A couple?? Try almost ALL.

Besides.. Why should this "My Favorite Flavor of Liar, Crook, Scumbag is Waaaaay better they your Flavor of Liar, Crook, Scumbag" thread be any different than the other 5,000 threads with the exact same theme??


And Logic?? In a political debate?? In this forum?
Are you sure you didn’t hit your head too doing your fire walk??