mnealtx 0 #76 September 29, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteI'd have a hard time voting for anyone who made rape victims pay for their own rape kits and forced them to bear the children of the rapist. I have a hard time believing someone that throws out wild allegations without any proof. Me too, check out Snopes on the lies posted about Obama. However, Palin's position on forensic kits and no abortions for rapeand incest victims is perfectly well documented. Provide the proof of your accusations, Professor - oh wait, you can't. Nevermind - feel free to continue with your baseless smear campaign.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,112 #77 September 29, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI'd have a hard time voting for anyone who made rape victims pay for their own rape kits and forced them to bear the children of the rapist. I have a hard time believing someone that throws out wild allegations without any proof. Me too, check out Snopes on the lies posted about Obama. However, Palin's position on forensic kits and no abortions for rapeand incest victims is perfectly well documented. Provide the proof of your accusations, Professor - oh wait, you can't. Nevermind - feel free to continue with your baseless smear campaign. It wasn't Tina Fey in that clip I just posted. They were Palin's own words. Palin supports a constitutional amendment to outlaw abortions for rape and incest victims. Watch it again.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #78 September 29, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteAt least you are willing to vote for him because he is black. It's funny how many people think that Obama's supporters base their support on race. Projection, I suppose. It's funny to watch Obama's supporters constantly accuse his detractors of racism. Even funnier to watch McCain supporters show off their lack of reading comprehension. If you read the conversation, you'll see that the poster I replied to was the one that made the claim that Obama supporters support him because of his race.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #79 September 29, 2008 The military doesn't do youtube, Professor.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,080 #80 September 29, 2008 >The military doesn't do youtube, Professor. The text, then: INTERVIEWER: If senator John Doe put forth an amendment that would ban abortion, even in cases of rape or incest, and he asked you to attend the announcement and support him in doing that, would you do it? . . . PALIN: I would. I would. And you know, it's no secret that I'm pro-life. And I don't hide that, nor am I ashamed of that, and I am pro-life... and yes, a proposal like that, I would stand by it. From Gibson's interview: Gibson: Roe v. Wade. Do you think it should be reversed? Palin: I think it should.... Gibson: John McCain would allow abortion on cases of rape and incest. You believe in it only in the case where the life of the mother is -- is endangered. Palin: That is my personal opinion. Gibson: Would you change and accept it in rape and incest? Palin: My personal opinion is that abortion allowed if the life of the mother is endangered. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #81 September 29, 2008 Gore got 90% of black votes in 2000. Kerry got 88% of black votes in 2004. I don't recall those votes being characterized as racist. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,112 #82 September 29, 2008 QuoteThe military doesn't do youtube, Professor. Quote"Provide the proof of your accusations, Professor - oh wait, you can't." You can't see the proof because of your employer, so it's MY fault. Nice right wing logic there, Mike.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #83 September 30, 2008 Quote>The military doesn't do youtube, Professor. The text, then: INTERVIEWER: If senator John Doe put forth an amendment that would ban abortion, even in cases of rape or incest, and he asked you to attend the announcement and support him in doing that, would you do it? . . . PALIN: I would. I would. And you know, it's no secret that I'm pro-life. And I don't hide that, nor am I ashamed of that, and I am pro-life... and yes, a proposal like that, I would stand by it. From Gibson's interview: Gibson: Roe v. Wade. Do you think it should be reversed? Palin: I think it should.... Gibson: John McCain would allow abortion on cases of rape and incest. You believe in it only in the case where the life of the mother is -- is endangered. Palin: That is my personal opinion. Gibson: Would you change and accept it in rape and incest? Palin: My personal opinion is that abortion allowed if the life of the mother is endangered. Ah, I see - so personal opinion is now party platform? Seems like she had the perfect opportunity to press the legislature to do JUST that, being governor of a state and all - yet somehow she DIDN'T - I wonder why that is?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #84 September 30, 2008 QuoteQuoteThe military doesn't do youtube, Professor. Quote"Provide the proof of your accusations, Professor - oh wait, you can't." You can't see the proof because of your employer, so it's MY fault. Nice right wing logic there, Mike. Anecdote != data, Professor. Provide legislation under her signature and I'll start worrying.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #85 September 30, 2008 QuoteQuote>The military doesn't do youtube, Professor. The text, then: INTERVIEWER: If senator John Doe put forth an amendment that would ban abortion, even in cases of rape or incest, and he asked you to attend the announcement and support him in doing that, would you do it? . . . PALIN: I would. I would. And you know, it's no secret that I'm pro-life. And I don't hide that, nor am I ashamed of that, and I am pro-life... and yes, a proposal like that, I would stand by it. From Gibson's interview: Gibson: Roe v. Wade. Do you think it should be reversed? Palin: I think it should.... Gibson: John McCain would allow abortion on cases of rape and incest. You believe in it only in the case where the life of the mother is -- is endangered. Palin: That is my personal opinion. Gibson: Would you change and accept it in rape and incest? Palin: My personal opinion is that abortion allowed if the life of the mother is endangered. Ah, I see - so personal opinion is now party platform? Seems like she had the perfect opportunity to press the legislature to do JUST that, being governor of a state and all - yet somehow she DIDN'T - I wonder why that is? Platforms are pablum. As the VP to a President in his 70s, whose body was ravaged (i.e., aged) in captivity and who's had cancer, she could very well succeed to the Presidency. Once there, she'd likely have the chance to appoint very conservative, anti-abortion justices who could overturn Roe v. Wade. So that's what makes her personal ideology extremely relevant. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #86 September 30, 2008 QuotePlatforms are pablum. As the VP to a President in his 70s, whose body was ravaged (i.e., aged) in captivity and who's had cancer, she could very well succeed to the Presidency. Once there, she'd likely have the chance to appoint very conservative, anti-abortion justices who could overturn Roe v. Wade. So that's what makes her personal ideology extremely relevant. See my argument above - she didn't do it when she was Governor of Alaska, but now she's suddenly going to do it ***IF*** she succeeds to President? By your logic, Obama would appoint very liberal judges that would overturn the late term abortion ban. At least in THAT case, there *is* precedent, as a bill to mandate care for children surviving late term abortions died in his committee in the Illinois Senate.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
