McCain temporarily suspending campaign.

[AWL71 0]

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Oh look...it was so urgent to cancel yesterday that McCain wasn't in DC last night for the late night session. The deal was approved just as McCain was landing in DC.

Wasn't even there.
How is that a suspension of anything? Now that an agreement has been reached before he even showed up, he still won't commit to the debate and still Palin is nowhere to be found. This really looks bad.
In other news, the president didn't suspend anything during this crisis:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080925/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_mideast;_ylt=Audx971e4Hi1lzcBU0uiDHqs0NUE
Not looking good.

No agreement has been reached yet. There is a general framework in place but there is still alot that has to be hammered out. But I agree that McCain needs to step up and debate as planned.

The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

[JohnnyD 0]

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No agreement has been reached yet. There is a general framework in place but there is still alot that has to be hammered out. But I agree that McCain needs to step up and debate as planned.

Absolutely, just heard a senator on CNN saying the republicans are intentionally holding up the process.

[Trent 0]

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And the debates are pretty important, as well. In fact, the Senate can carry on without McCain or Obama. (After all, why should McCain suddenly feel obligated to represent his state?) The presidential candidate debates, however, require the presence of both Obama and McCain. I think the people deserve to see all three debates, plus the VP candidate debate, as anticipated.

I don't think the debate being held on a specific day is as important as the financial BS going on. I'd like everyone there for those discussions.

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And they agreed on three debates, including one tomorrow. Now McCain is trying to offer up a reason to chicken out. If he can't carry out his responsibilities as Senator and presidential candidate, he should quit one of those roles.

Did they agree on the debates after the fail of AIG, Lehman et al? What's the big deal about postponing? Do you people honestly think that McCain expected to never have to debate Obama and just realized it before THIS debate? Silliness.

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Why? He's not the one trying to back out of the agreed upon debates.

Because he was too "chicken" to debate months ago at the town hall meetings. Instead, he just avoided it entirely.

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Agreed. And if McCain doesn't have the ability to multitask now, why should the American people trust him in the Oval Office, where he'll have to juggle even more critical tasks?

And how is Obama's multi-tasking? Can he be in 2 places at once? Awesome.

Oh, hello again!

[JohnnyD 0]

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I don't think the debate being held on a specific day is as important as the financial BS going on. I'd like everyone there for those discussions.

So you feel the president was wrong for meeting with foreign heads of state today?

[klingeme 1]

Here it is by the numbers. Looks like McCain missed 18% of the votes to Obama's 24%. Source http://www.govtrack.us

McCain
Time Period Number of Votes Missed Votes Percent
1993-Q1 6 0 0%
1993-Q2 8 0 0%
1993-Q3 16 0 0%
1993-Q4 18 0 0%
1994-Q1 11 1 9.10%
1994-Q2 16 0 0%
1994-Q3 23 1 4.30%
1994-Q4 3 0 0%
1995-Q1 11 1 9.10%
1995-Q2 15 0 0%
1995-Q3 15 0 0%
1995-Q4 29 1 3.40%
1996-Q1 15 0 0%
1996-Q2 10 1 10%
1996-Q3 31 0 0%
1996-Q4 1 0 0%
1997-Q1 35 0 0%
1997-Q2 125 0 0%
1997-Q3 103 4 3.90%
1997-Q4 35 3 8.60%
1998-Q1 52 1 1.90%
1998-Q2 131 6 4.60%
1998-Q3 109 6 5.50%
1998-Q4 22 0 0%
1999-Q1 79 20 25.30%
1999-Q2 111 23 20.70%
1999-Q3 111 48 43.20%
1999-Q4 70 41 58.60%
2000-Q1 51 40 78.40%
2000-Q2 120 6 5%
2000-Q3 89 8 9%
2000-Q4 38 12 31.60%
2001-Q1 63 0 0%
2001-Q2 157 2 1.30%
2001-Q3 68 8 11.80%
2001-Q4 92 4 4.30%
2002-Q1 59 16 27.10%
2002-Q2 107 2 1.90%
2002-Q3 61 0 0%
2002-Q4 26 1 3.80%
2003-Q1 112 0 0%
2003-Q2 150 5 3.30%
2003-Q3 108 0 0%
2003-Q4 89 0 0%
2004-Q1 64 1 1.60%
2004-Q2 88 3 3.40%
2004-Q3 42 2 4.80%
2004-Q4 22 1 4.50%
2005-Q1 81 2 2.50%
2005-Q2 89 5 5.60%
2005-Q3 76 2 2.60%
2005-Q4 119 23 19.30%
2006-Q1 83 5 6%
2006-Q2 107 10 9.30%
2006-Q3 73 3 4.10%
2006-Q4 16 8 50%
2007-Q1 126 42 33.30%
2007-Q2 112 81 72.30%
2007-Q3 119 59 49.60%
2007-Q4 85 65 76.50%
2008-Q1 85 50 58.80%
2008-Q2 77 76 98.70%
2008-Q3 39 39 100%
Totals 4104 738 18%



Obama
Time Period Number of Votes Missed Votes Percent
2005-Q1 81 0 0%
2005-Q2 89 6 6.70%
2005-Q3 76 1 1.30%
2005-Q4 119 1 0.80%
2006-Q1 83 0 0%
2006-Q2 107 2 1.90%
2006-Q3 73 1 1.40%
2006-Q4 16 0 0%
2007-Q1 126 3 2.40%
2007-Q2 112 20 17.90%
2007-Q3 119 67 56.30%
2007-Q4 85 76 89.40%
2008-Q1 85 31 36.50%
2008-Q2 77 65 84.40%
2008-Q3 39 33 84.60%
Totals 1287 306 24%

[jcd11235 0]

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If he votes against it, and Obama obstains (as usual) he did absolutly do what he could to vote it down and Obama did nothing (as is par for the course with him in congress).

You realize that during the 109th and 110th Congresses, i.e. since Obama has been in the Senate, McCain has failed to vote (yes or no) on ~54% more votes than Obama, right?

McCain has only even voted (yes or no) on half as many days as Obama so far this year. That's especially interesting, considering Obama had a much more difficult primary season than McCain had.

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[klingeme 1]

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If he McCain votes against itthe bailout, and Obama obstains (as usual) he McCaindid absolutly do what heMcCain could to vote it down and Obama did nothing (as is par for the course with him in congress).

what?

Is it clearer now?

[jcd11235 0]

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Here it is by the numbers. Looks like McCain missed 18% of the votes to Obama's 24%. Source http://www.govtrack.us

Now go compare the two of them for just the 109th and 110th Congresses, which will actually offer a meaningful comparison.

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[ChasingBlueSky 0]

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Because he was too "chicken" to debate months ago at the town hall meetings. Instead, he just avoided it entirely.

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Agreed. And if McCain doesn't have the ability to multitask now, why should the American people trust him in the Oval Office, where he'll have to juggle even more critical tasks?

And how is Obama's multi-tasking? Can he be in 2 places at once? Awesome.

You mean the McCain townhall meetings where he gives out tickets via his local campaign office and stocks them full of preset questions? Ya, I wonder why he passed on those. Oh look, another half truth coming from McCain.

Obama did Multitask. He continued to campaign, prepared for the debate, read the bailout document and put in a call to congress today, and then flew to Wash DC. Not a bad two days and he didn't even have to grandstand to do all that.

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[ChasingBlueSky 0]

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Here it is by the numbers. Looks like McCain missed 18% of the votes to Obama's 24%. Source http://www.govtrack.us

But when you look at it, McCain has been in the upper 10% or higher on missed votes for the Senate going back to '93. He outpaces everyone.

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[klingeme 1]

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Here it is by the numbers. Looks like McCain missed 18% of the votes to Obama's 24%. Source http://www.govtrack.us

But when you look at it, McCain has been in the upper 10% or higher on missed votes for the Senate going back to '93. He outpaces everyone.

But if experience is not an issue, they should be judged on a level playing field, and on that field, Obama votes 76% of the time and McCain 82%.

[SpeedRacer 1]

Man, doesn't the Rep vs. Dem pissing matches get so picky & tiresome after awhile.

Everybody's just grasping at every straw to make the other guy look slightly more shitty than their own candidate.

Vote for the one that sucks minutely less than the other one!!


I feel like forgetting about the whole pissing match & just getting a beer & watching Star Trek or a James Bond movie or something right about now.

Too bad I'm at work.


Lieutenant Uhuru: *BEEP* Sir, the Wall Street CEOs are hailing us. They're demanding we give them 700 billion dollars!

Captain Kirk : Arm photon torpedoes, Mr. Sulu!

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[SpeedRacer 1]

HA! Killed the thread!

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[rushmc 23]

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Man, doesn't the Rep vs. Dem pissing matches get so picky & tiresome after awhile.

Everybody's just grasping at every straw to make the other guy look slightly more shitty than their own candidate.

Vote for the one that sucks minutely less than the other one!!


I feel like forgetting about the whole pissing match & just getting a beer & watching Star Trek or a James Bond movie or something right about now.

Too bad I'm at work.


Lieutenant Uhuru: *BEEP* Sir, the Wall Street CEOs are hailing us. They're demanding we give them 700 billion dollars!

Captain Kirk : Arm photon torpedoes, Mr. Sulu!

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Hey!!!!
I will buy the beer and smoke a pork loin for a snack!!!

Just tell me where!

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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[billvon 3,111]

>Sir, the Wall Street CEOs are hailing us. They're demanding we give
>them 700 billion dollars!

I was thinking more like:

DR. BERNANKE: Oh, hell, let's just do what we always do. Let's lead Wall Street into the gutter and then hold them hostage until they give us money.(pause) Here's the plan. We get control of the Fed, then we hold the US hostage for . . . . (dramatic pause) . . . ONE MILLION DOLLARS!

(uncomfortable pause)

PAULSON: Don't you think we should ask for more than one million dollars? A million dollars isn't that much money nowadays.

DR. BERNANKE: Oh, all right then. We will ask for . . . (dramatic pause) . . . FIVE MILLION DOLLARS!

(another uncomfortable pause)

PAULSON: Uh . . . the Iraq war alone is getting more than 200 million dollars. A day.

DR. BERNANKE: Alright, FINE! We will ask for . . . (dramatic pause) . . . seven hundred BILLION dollars! Good? Good. Ok, anything else?

[jcd11235 0]

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DR. BERNANKE: Oh, hell, let's just do what we always do. Let's lead Wall Street into the gutter and then hold them hostage until they give us money.(pause) Here's the plan. We get control of the Fed, then we hold the US hostage for . . . . (dramatic pause) . . . ONE MILLION DOLLARS!

(uncomfortable pause)

PAULSON: Don't you think we should ask for more than one million dollars? A million dollars isn't that much money nowadays.

DR. BERNANKE: Oh, all right then. We will ask for . . . (dramatic pause) . . . FIVE MILLION DOLLARS!

(another uncomfortable pause)

PAULSON: Uh . . . the Iraq war alone is getting more than 200 million dollars. A day.

DR. BERNANKE: Alright, FINE! We will ask for . . . (dramatic pause) . . . seven hundred BILLION dollars! Good? Good. Ok, anything else?

That's just evil.

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[billvon 3,111]

>I think it shows he is more concerned with the crisis at hand than his campaign.
>And Obama still wants to go on with the debate. He stated in his press conference
>that his people can call him if he is needed. All he cares about is getting elected.
>Nothing else.

I expect a lot of conservatives to have a sudden change of heart over how important it is to miss the debate and deal "with the crisis at hand."

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>I think it shows he is more concerned with the crisis at hand than his campaign.
>And Obama still wants to go on with the debate. He stated in his press conference
>that his people can call him if he is needed. All he cares about is getting elected.
>Nothing else.

I expect a lot of conservatives to have a sudden change of heart over how important it is to miss the debate and deal "with the crisis at hand."

I think it was a stunt. No different from Obamas stance.

And the only crisiss is the one the gove is about to create

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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[jcd11235 0]

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And the only crisiss is the one the gove is about to create

The government didn't cause the crisis. It's just a natural cycle caused by the decrease in solar winds. Didn't you read the NASA report?

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