labrys 0 #26 September 25, 2008 QuoteKudos to McCain for doing this. I think it is a good move. I wonder how Obama will react? Thoughts. How important is it who the next president is? Does it really matter? Is the Office of President more important than one person's vote out of 99 others? I think that it is, and McCain's lack of jugdment condemns him as foolish in my opinion.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #27 September 25, 2008 QuoteI just heard on the radio that McCain is temporarily suspending his campaign and delaying Friday's debate to go back to Washington and work with his fellow senators to resolve the financial crisis. Kudos to McCain for doing this. I think it is a good move. I wonder how Obama will react? Thoughts. Any chance to duck out. Right now teh financial crisis is huge and doesn't favor the R's, so this is a political move. If the war was at the forefront, you might see Obama do the same thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #28 September 25, 2008 QuoteIf he can't handle doing his job as 1/100th of one half of one branch of the federal government without crying about time constraints, how can we trust him to be effective in a role that would make effectively make him a branch of government all by himself? That's so much better worded than what I said, and exactly the sentiment I was feeling.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #29 September 25, 2008 QuoteI suppose so. I think the deadline for getting this financial aid deal passed is Friday. If McCain spends all his time working on that bill he would have no time to prepare for the debate so I can see where he is coming from. Pushing the debate back a week seems the right thing to do when our "leaders" are proposing a huge bailout. Prepare for the debate? These are simple questions, if McCain doesn't know the answers by age 72 or 73, he never will. I say go to Washington, place votes then go to the debate. I dunno where the debate is, but hold it in Washington. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #30 September 25, 2008 70% of teh people in his state say he should go to the debate. I smell chicken Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trent 0 #31 September 25, 2008 Imagine that... an elected official being criticized for doing his job.... *sigh* it really IS a mental disorder.Oh, hello again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #32 September 25, 2008 QuoteImagine that... an elected official being criticized for doing his job.... *sigh* it really IS a mental disorder. Right now his 'job' is to get elected - nothing more. His responsibilites as a Senator, as WELL as Obama's, have been essentially removed while the campaign is going on. This isn't a new thing, it's just the way it's been for many years. IMO, this is a stunt move, and nothing else. I'm amazed at how many people don't see it for the BS it is. IanPerformance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trent 0 #33 September 25, 2008 I disagree. It is still their job. Especially when every vote is needed to defeat or pass something. Everyone is talking about how they should be able to multi-task... so let them do it! Campaign, and do their jobs when it's needed. Stunt or not, people are still bitching about people doing what they're supposed to do. Silly.Oh, hello again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #34 September 25, 2008 QuoteI disagree. It is still their job. Especially when every vote is needed to defeat or pass something. Everyone is talking about how they should be able to multi-task... so let them do it! Campaign, and do their jobs when it's needed. Stunt or not, people are still bitching about people doing what they're supposed to do. Silly. Kool-Aid, anyone? You've apparently drunk it - pass it around!! (hic!) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trent 0 #35 September 25, 2008 Lol... sweet burn. Par for the course.Oh, hello again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #36 September 25, 2008 QuoteI disagree. It is still their job. Especially when every vote is needed to defeat or pass something. I've not gotten the impression that there's particularly partisan bickering going on that would trigger such a close vote. It mostly seems like, "Fuck Bush, what do we do that'll get us elected/re-elected." Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #37 September 25, 2008 QuoteI disagree. It is still their job. Especially when every vote is needed to defeat or pass something. Everyone is talking about how they should be able to multi-task... so let them do it! Campaign, and do their jobs when it's needed. Stunt or not, people are still bitching about people doing what they're supposed to do. Silly. McCain arranged for this first and most prominent debate to cater to his strongest polling point. Events of the last two weeks made it obvious the subect would drift into topics on which Obama polls best, and on which McCain has admitted he's not particularly strong. So, he found a way to punt while spinning it otherwise. If he were sincere, he'd have headed for DC days ago, not sometime the day before the debate. It's pretty obvious to anyone who actually looks. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trent 0 #38 September 25, 2008 QuoteIf he were sincere, he'd have headed for DC days ago, not sometime the day before the debate. It's pretty obvious to anyone who actually looks. Ok then. All settled.Oh, hello again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
klingeme 1 #39 September 25, 2008 McCain is used to actually voting on things coming through congress, while Obama is used to voting "present". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #40 September 25, 2008 Quote McCain is used to actually voting on things coming through congress, while Obama is used to voting "present". True. He's used to voting "Yes" to all of Bush's proposals. Clearly those have worked well for us Performance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #41 September 25, 2008 QuoteI disagree. It is still their job. Especially when every vote is needed to defeat or pass something. Everyone is talking about how they should be able to multi-task... so let them do it! Campaign, and do their jobs when it's needed. Stunt or not, people are still bitching about people doing what they're supposed to do. Silly. Trent, I don't have any issues with them being involved in the process, like you said multitasking. The problem is that McCain isn't multitasking - he's stalling. He's 'suspended' his campaign - a statement that is simply ludicrous at best - AND he wants to suspend the debates till a later date. That's not multitasking IMO. Blues, IanPerformance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
klingeme 1 #42 September 25, 2008 Quote Quote McCain is used to actually voting on things coming through congress, while Obama is used to voting "present". True. He's used to voting "Yes" to all of Bush's proposals. Clearly those have worked well for us and a "Present" vote is a 50% yes/50% no vote, but at least McCain takes a stand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MegaGoliath11 0 #43 September 25, 2008 I think the same thing, he doesn't want to go debate because naturally the debate will shift towards the economic crisis which McCain is weak on. So he deflecting the chance to lose a debate and wait until the heat is passed. If he did debate then he'll probably just barely be able to contain his rage when he is eclipsed by Obama in terms of understanding the current situation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #44 September 25, 2008 Quote Quote Quote McCain is used to actually voting on things coming through congress, while Obama is used to voting "present". True. He's used to voting "Yes" to all of Bush's proposals. Clearly those have worked well for us and a "Present" vote is a 50% yes/50% no vote, but at least McCain takes a stand. That's like saying usually doing the thing is better than usually doing the right thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crwtom 0 #45 September 25, 2008 Quotecan't they deal with this issue & still have the debate as scheduled? this is indeed puzzling me - unless you are on the committees (banking/commerce, etc) or a fiscal executive there is no reason to push one all-nighter after the other in the Capitol building to work out the fine print of the bill. The only reason for the candidate to step in is after the bill is crafted in order to rally votes, mitigate, and vote themselves. A candidate who cannot do that and have a one hour debate at the same time has some serious issues with multitasking/delegating -- which are imperative qualities for a president. Cheers, T ******************************************************************* Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #46 September 25, 2008 QuoteThe problem is that McCain isn't multitasking - he's stalling. He's 'suspended' his campaign - a statement that is simply ludicrous at best - AND he wants to suspend the debates till a later date. I think the main reason he is doing this is to get the Vice Presidential debates cancelled. Palin has been carefully shielded from the media and really only has done three interviews, all scheduled with I am sure lots of preperation. The debates, I think, would quickly show her complete lack of foreign experience (for christ sake, she didn't even get a passport till 20-06). McCain wants out of those VP debates, he knows it has a high chance of sinking his ship....or at least the chance of a negative outcome is significantly higher than the chance of a positive outcome.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #47 September 25, 2008 Quote I think the same thing, he doesn't want to go debate because naturally the debate will shift towards the economic crisis which McCain is weak on. So he deflecting the chance to lose a debate and wait until the heat is passed. If he did debate then he'll probably just barely be able to contain his rage when he is eclipsed by Obama in terms of understanding the current situation. Yea, esp the, "whining" comment. I guess we are still just whining about the trillion dollar meltdown. We're whining about the unemplyment rate skyrocketing now. We're whining about no/crappy healthcare too. McSame has it nailed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
klingeme 1 #48 September 25, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote McCain is used to actually voting on things coming through congress, while Obama is used to voting "present". True. He's used to voting "Yes" to all of Bush's proposals. Clearly those have worked well for us and a "Present" vote is a 50% yes/50% no vote, but at least McCain takes a stand. That's like saying usually doing the thing is better than usually doing the right thing. No it's like saying McCain does his job, and Obama chooses to not do his job (present is not a real vote). You are in congress to vote on things and represent your state. Are all of Obama's people "present" in the country but don't take a stand on issues? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #49 September 25, 2008 Did anyone see Letterman last night?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #50 September 25, 2008 QuoteMcCain is used to actually voting on things coming through congress, while Obama is used to voting "present". Very funny. McCain has missed 64% of the votes in the current Congress. List... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
