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Darius11

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad interview Sept 23

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obviously none of the videos help me, but personally, I think Ahmadinejad is an absolute wacko. Not quite as fucked up in the head as Kim Jong Il, but close.
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No interest here. That nutjob has nothing worth of value to say.




Off course and you know from being told so. Very Intelligent i see. It’s all that trutheness.
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I enjoyed reading the transcript - cheers for providing it.

He said this: AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): "Well, of course, the hostility has not been from our end. Up to this day, we have always been interested in having friendly relations. The hostility has been one- sided on the part of American politicians. And our nation has always defended itself against that hostility.

But it's clear that nations do not have any problems with one another. And we don't have any issues with the American people. But when the American government uses the language of force, we have no choice but to defend against it.

We've done a lot. If you will recall, I sent a letter to Mr. Bush. The letter can be the start of a fresh endeavor and relation. We assisted in Iraq to establish safety and security, as well as a new government.

And I also ask that we talk with one another in the United Nations."

That's all quite interesting, considering the amount of people that have, and are still being killed in Iraq through weapon systems and technology provided by Iran - primarily to achieve this aim.

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

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No interest here. That nutjob has nothing worth of value to say.




Off course and you know from being told so. Very Intelligent i see. It’s all that trutheness.
Good for you.

If you really believe in this nut, go home and prepare for war.
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Darius, if I recall you're from Iran... did his actual tone sound as snarky as the translators??? Damn she was annoying!

Nothing new in there... what did anyone expect? "Yep, Larry, ya got me. I'm nuts. I hate Jews. I'm supporting bad guys in Iraq. What are you gonna do about it!"??? Of course he was going to play the victim and all that nonsense.
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I enjoyed reading the transcript - cheers for providing it.

He said this: AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): "Well, of course, the hostility has not been from our end. Up to this day, we have always been interested in having friendly relations. The hostility has been one- sided on the part of American politicians. And our nation has always defended itself against that hostility.

But it's clear that nations do not have any problems with one another. And we don't have any issues with the American people. But when the American government uses the language of force, we have no choice but to defend against it.

We've done a lot. If you will recall, I sent a letter to Mr. Bush. The letter can be the start of a fresh endeavor and relation. We assisted in Iraq to establish safety and security, as well as a new government.

And I also ask that we talk with one another in the United Nations."

That's all quite interesting, considering the amount of people that have, and are still being killed in Iraq through weapon systems and technology provided by Iran - primarily to achieve this aim.

I beg to differ. I'd say the majority of people in Iraq and around the world killed are from U.S. weapons systems as we are the leading supplier and user of those weapons. ;)
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A little historical perspective.

Iran has been one of the world's leading state sponsors of worldwide terrorism and instability in the Middle East and environs since 1979. But the history of Iran, and its relationship with the US, did not begin in 1979. Iran's 20th Century history has in common something Latin America and other countries have also experienced: the US fomenting coups d'etats to overthrow the pre-existing governments and install brutal, corrupt and repressive dictatorships, all in the name of constructing bulwarks against Communism or other enemies of the US. That's how the Shah came into power and maintained his grip on power through brutal repression of Iranians by the Savak, the CIA-trained and supported Iranian secret police. Likewise, Omar Torrijos and then Manuel Noriega in Panama, Syngman Rhee and then Park Chung-hee in South Korea, Diem and then Thieu in South Vietnam, Ferdinand Marcos in the Philippines, Augusto Pinochet in Chile, etc.

Now don't get me wrong - I think the Iranian government are a bunch of pigs. But the truth is, Iran, like Chavez in Venezuela or Morales in Bolivia, are in large part personifications of America's chickens coming home to roost.

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A little historical perspective.

Iran has been one of the world's leading state sponsors of worldwide terrorism and instability in the Middle East and environs since 1979. But the history of Iran, and its relationship with the US, did not begin in 1979. Iran's 20th Century history has in common something Latin America and other countries have also experienced: the US fomenting coups d'etats to overthrow the pre-existing governments and install brutal, corrupt and repressive dictatorships, all in the name of constructing bulwarks against Communism or other enemies of the US. That's how the Shah came into power and maintained his grip on power through brutal repression of Iranians by the Savak, the CIA-trained and supported Iranian secret police. Likewise, Omar Torrijos and then Manuel Noriega in Panama, Syngman Rhee and then Park Chung-hee in South Korea, Diem and then Thieu in South Vietnam, Ferdinand Marcos in the Philippines, Augusto Pinochet in Chile, etc.

Now don't get me wrong - I think the Iranian government are a bunch of pigs. But the truth is, Iran, like Chavez in Venezuela or Morales in Bolivia, are in large part personifications of America's chickens coming home to roost.



Any suggestion that there might exist chickens to come home will get you branded as "America-hating" by the right wing.
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A little historical perspective.

Iran has been one of the world's leading state sponsors of worldwide terrorism and instability in the Middle East and environs since 1979. But the history of Iran, and its relationship with the US, did not begin in 1979. Iran's 20th Century history has in common something Latin America and other countries have also experienced: the US fomenting coups d'etats to overthrow the pre-existing governments and install brutal, corrupt and repressive dictatorships, all in the name of constructing bulwarks against Communism or other enemies of the US. That's how the Shah came into power and maintained his grip on power through brutal repression of Iranians by the Savak, the CIA-trained and supported Iranian secret police. Likewise, Omar Torrijos and then Manuel Noriega in Panama, Syngman Rhee and then Park Chung-hee in South Korea, Diem and then Thieu in South Vietnam, Ferdinand Marcos in the Philippines, Augusto Pinochet in Chile, etc.

Now don't get me wrong - I think the Iranian government are a bunch of pigs. But the truth is, Iran, like Chavez in Venezuela or Morales in Bolivia, are in large part personifications of America's chickens coming home to roost.



Any suggestion that there might exist chickens to come home will get you branded as "America-hating" by the right wing.

Yeah, and people who love fried chicken are all right wing. Can you compare this to the British Empire bringing home all its chickens who currently get free chicken feed?
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did his actual tone sound as snarky as the translators??? Damn she was annoying!



Dude yea she was very annoying man. What I have noticed is whenever he is being translated the translated makes him sound more sophisticated then he really is. She also tries to make him sound more PC. It is subtle stuff but defiantly noticeable.

He is a bit snarky but that might just be an Iranian thing.

I think Snarky means arrogant right?


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Nothing new in there... what did anyone expect? "Yep, Larry, ya got me. I'm nuts. I hate Jews. I'm supporting bad guys in Iraq. What are you gonna do about it!"??? Of course he was going to play the victim and all that nonsense.



That’s all politicians the same can be said about any of them.
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did his actual tone sound as snarky as the translators??? Damn she was annoying!


Dude yea she was very annoying man. What I have noticed is whenever he is being translated the translated makes him sound more sophisticated then he really is. She also tries to make him sound more PC. It is subtle stuff but defiantly noticeable.

He is a bit snarky but that might just be an Iranian thing.



Ok, so now I'm curious: how does he come across to a native Farsi speaker? (Demeanor, intelligence, education, judgment, discretion, etc., etc....)

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Iran has been one of the world's leading state sponsors of worldwide terrorism and instability in the Middle East and environs since 1979



Listen Andy first I am not a supporter of this president. You can see what I said on the day he was elected.
However you’re viewing things in absolutes and that’s simply not the truth.

What is terrorism? Who is a terrorist?

What about when we have supported terrorist?



You can not just justify things ethically when your justification is we wanted to.
We have done worst things then we blame many others of doing. So how can we pretend to sit on out high horse judging others?


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Iran's 20th Century history has in common something Latin America and other countries have also experienced: the US fomenting coups d'etats to overthrow the pre-existing governments and install brutal, corrupt and repressive dictatorships, all in the name of constructing bulwarks against Communism or other enemies of the US. That's how the Shah came into power and maintained his grip on power through brutal repression of Iranians by the Savak, the CIA-trained and supported Iranian secret police. Likewise, Omar Torrijos and then Manuel Noriega in Panama, Syngman Rhee and then Park Chung-hee in South Korea, Diem and then Thieu in South Vietnam, Ferdinand Marcos in the Philippines, Augusto Pinochet in Chile, etc.

Now don't get me wrong - I think the Iranian government are a bunch of pigs. But the truth is, Iran, like Chavez in Venezuela or Morales in Bolivia, are in large part personifications of America's chickens coming home to roost.





Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yep. I agree with all of that.
I also would think if we are going to think an act is wrong or unjust. Then we should view all who do that act in the same manner. I just find it hard to take when we have many people who just disregard the shit we have done and then judge others for the same actions or often a lesser offence.
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Ok, so now I'm curious: how does he come across to a native Farsi speaker?



He sounds unsophisticated (or layman), that’s the best way I can put it. He also sounds a bit arrogant I do think that’s an Iranian thing.

I think he is playing the game, like all politicians.
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If you really believe in this nut, go home and prepare for war.




So if I really believe as he said he wants peace, dialogue and no war (as he said in the video) I should go “Home” and prepare for war?

That was so intelligent I’ll just leave it this way. I have no other response to you.:S
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He sounds unsophisticated (or layman), that’s the best way I can put it. He also sounds a bit arrogant I do think that’s an Iranian thing.



Sort of like an American President who says "nuke-you-lar" and invades another country because, well, "Bring it on!" Gotcha.

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