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Quote> I am just waiting to see who is the biggest player in this.
There's not much question that Phil Gramm played the biggest single part in allowing this to happen. He spearheaded the legislation that:Quote
Yes you did list two bills, but only one had names attached now didnt it.
Nice try"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
billvon 3,120
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>Who is getting the most money from this?
Who is getting the most money from this? The banks who are the recipients.
Who got the most money for setting the stage for it? Phil Gramm (over a million.)
Who is getting the most money from this? The banks who are the recipients.
Who got the most money for setting the stage for it? Phil Gramm (over a million.)
billvon 3,120
>Did you see where Clinton administration people are saying this bill had
>nothing to do with it?
I listed two bills. Gotta read before replying. And since when do you listen to the Clintons?
>nothing to do with it?
I listed two bills. Gotta read before replying. And since when do you listen to the Clintons?
rushmc 23
Quote>Did you see where Clinton administration people are saying this bill had
>nothing to do with it?
I listed two bills. Gotta read before replying. And since when do you listen to the Clintons?
Just pointing out how your hero says you are wrong. More to the point, those in his admin.
Grahams bill had nothing (or very dam little.) to do with this mess.
You and the dems need to make it seem that evil and greedy corps caused this mess. While they were greedy and did not fight it (but many of them did not get into this) it was the gov and the laws passed that caused this. Until you stop refusing to see this only more regulation that will cause yet another mess will come of it. But that is OK with you. As long as those in the gov come out clean
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"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
rushmc 23
More to the point sir. From the Washington Post
"One, Democrats in good standing supported the final bill. Robert Rubin and Larry Summers, Clinton Treasury officials whom Obama relies on for advice, supported it. Joe Biden voted for it, it passed the Senate with 90 votes, and President Clinton signed it. Heaven knows, Washington can make bipartisan mistakes, but if the bill were so obviously the road to financial perdition, presumably some of these Democrats much keener to regulate the economy than Gramm would have voted "no.""
http://www.nypost.com/seven/09232008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/democrats_ridiculous_scapegoat_130324.htm
"One, Democrats in good standing supported the final bill. Robert Rubin and Larry Summers, Clinton Treasury officials whom Obama relies on for advice, supported it. Joe Biden voted for it, it passed the Senate with 90 votes, and President Clinton signed it. Heaven knows, Washington can make bipartisan mistakes, but if the bill were so obviously the road to financial perdition, presumably some of these Democrats much keener to regulate the economy than Gramm would have voted "no.""
http://www.nypost.com/seven/09232008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/democrats_ridiculous_scapegoat_130324.htm
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
rushmc 23
"Republican anger at ‘financial socialism’"
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/cdfbdcb6-89a3-11dd-8371-0000779fd18c.html
Do I agree with all that is proposed?
No, but I will conseed some to get the best possible...
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/cdfbdcb6-89a3-11dd-8371-0000779fd18c.html
Do I agree with all that is proposed?
No, but I will conseed some to get the best possible...
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
billvon 3,120
>Grahams bill had nothing (or very dam little.) to do with this mess.
His bill allowed exactly what led into this mess.
Republicans are, once again, hoping that most people are fools, and cannot remember history. Unfortunately for them, people have access to better and better histories nowadays (via the net) - which is why the vast majority put the blame squarely on the republicans. That's not quite fair, since there is plenty of blame to spread around, but anyone who claims "poor Phil Gramm had NOTHING to do with this!" can be proven false by anyone with a PC and an internet connection.
Indeed, the GOP is having a problem with honesty lately. When even Karl Rove warns republicans to stop lying so much - you know it's getting bad.
>t was the gov and the laws passed that caused this.
Nope. Foolish investors caused this. The government did play a role in removing some of the restrictions on that foolish behavior.
His bill allowed exactly what led into this mess.
Republicans are, once again, hoping that most people are fools, and cannot remember history. Unfortunately for them, people have access to better and better histories nowadays (via the net) - which is why the vast majority put the blame squarely on the republicans. That's not quite fair, since there is plenty of blame to spread around, but anyone who claims "poor Phil Gramm had NOTHING to do with this!" can be proven false by anyone with a PC and an internet connection.
Indeed, the GOP is having a problem with honesty lately. When even Karl Rove warns republicans to stop lying so much - you know it's getting bad.
>t was the gov and the laws passed that caused this.
Nope. Foolish investors caused this. The government did play a role in removing some of the restrictions on that foolish behavior.
rushmc 23
Quote>Grahams bill had nothing (or very dam little.) to do with this mess.
His bill allowed exactly what led into this mess.
Republicans are, once again, hoping that most people are fools, and cannot remember history. Unfortunately for them, people have access to better and better histories nowadays (via the net) - which is why the vast majority put the blame squarely on the republicans. That's not quite fair, since there is plenty of blame to spread around, but anyone who claims "poor Phil Gramm had NOTHING to do with this!" can be proven false by anyone with a PC and an internet connection.
Indeed, the GOP is having a problem with honesty lately. When even Karl Rove warns republicans to stop lying so much - you know it's getting bad.
>t was the gov and the laws passed that caused this.
Nope. Foolish investors caused this. The government did play a role in removing some of the restrictions on that foolish behavior.
Well, Rubin does not even agree with you. Nor do I or most who are looking into this
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
I have named names and I have data to back up the money they recieved.
YOU say Bush admin and his cronies. OK,,WHO Name em
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
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