kallend 2,147 #76 September 17, 2008 QuoteQuote Rolls Royces (yes!) That would be cool to see. Such a great lookin car. QuoteI don't see the problem, Well obviosly this company did and sent them packing. It's there house and they can run it the way they want to. ] QuoteI don't see the problem, any more than scheduling SUNDAYS and CHRISTMAS as days off for Christians. Man I am in the wrong field of work. I wish I could get those days off. How come you're selectively whining about Muslims and not about Christians, who get far more preferential treatment (even if YOU personally don't)? I don't ever recall your complaining about Christians getting Sundays and Christmas off.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AWL71 0 #77 September 17, 2008 QuoteQuoteDid you read my previous post? I have no problem with Muslims. I have a problem when employers are required to give special treatment to ANY religion. Really? Didn't sound like you had any problem with christian holidays being accomodated. I don't work on Christmas since it is a Federal Holiday. America is predominately a Christian Country so this is why it is a federal holiday. If Muslim's want "fringe" benefits then they should live in a predominately Muslim country. It is a simple case of "Majority Rule." BTW, majority rule? I thought you guys had a piece of paper that said something about putting limits on that? I think it began with 'C'. You are missing the point all together. I know plenty of atheists that participate in the culture of Christmas. Christmas is a christian holiday to some and to others it is time off where people buy you stuff and we all talk about the guy that lives in the North Pole. Christmas is part of the American culture, not a time to give Christian special treatments. Muslims can pray all they want but employers should not be made to give them special treatment.The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #78 September 17, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Did you read my previous post? I have no problem with Muslims. I have a problem when employers are required to give special treatment to ANY religion. Really? Didn't sound like you had any problem with christian holidays being accomodated. I don't work on Christmas since it is a Federal Holiday. America is predominately a Christian Country so this is why it is a federal holiday. If Muslim's want "fringe" benefits then they should live in a predominately Muslim country. It is a simple case of "Majority Rule." BTW, majority rule? I thought you guys had a piece of paper that said something about putting limits on that? I think it began with 'C'. You are missing the point all together. I know plenty of atheists that participate in the culture of Christmas. Christmas is a christian holiday to some and to others it is time off where people buy you stuff and we all talk about the guy that lives in the North Pole. Christmas is part of the American culture, not a time to give Christian special treatments. Muslims can pray all they want but employers should not be made to give them special treatment. ROFL I can't believe you are serious.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AWL71 0 #80 September 17, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote Did you read my previous post? I have no problem with Muslims. I have a problem when employers are required to give special treatment to ANY religion. Really? Didn't sound like you had any problem with christian holidays being accomodated. I don't work on Christmas since it is a Federal Holiday. America is predominately a Christian Country so this is why it is a federal holiday. If Muslim's want "fringe" benefits then they should live in a predominately Muslim country. It is a simple case of "Majority Rule." BTW, majority rule? I thought you guys had a piece of paper that said something about putting limits on that? I think it began with 'C'. You are missing the point all together. I know plenty of atheists that participate in the culture of Christmas. Christmas is a christian holiday to some and to others it is time off where people buy you stuff and we all talk about the guy that lives in the North Pole. Christmas is part of the American culture, not a time to give Christian special treatments. Muslims can pray all they want but employers should not be made to give them special treatment. ROFL I can't believe you are serious. Serious as can be so get up off the floor. There are plenty of non-christians that celebrate Christmas. For most people Christmas is about presents, not the so called fake God in the sky.The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,587 #81 September 17, 2008 QuoteSerious as can be so get up off the floor. There are plenty of non-christians that celebrate Christmas. For most people Christmas is about presents, not the so called fake God in the sky.In overwhelmingly Muslim countries (but not ones where it's mandated), I'd bet there is some participation in some Muslim holidays like Eid, and that in Israel there is non-Jewish participation in holidays like Sukkuoth and Hanukkah. They have become cultural norms in their countries. But that doesn't remove their religious context, any more than Christmas can be divorced entirely from its Christian origin. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #82 September 17, 2008 QuoteHow come you're selectively whining about Muslims and not about Christians, First off I'm not whining. Secnod because the article was about Muslims walkin off the job. Not Christians. Quotewho get far more preferential treatment (even if YOU personally don't)? What preferential treatment do they get in this situation? QuoteI don't ever recall your complaining about Christians getting Sundays and Christmas off. What a lame example but I'll bite. Are christians the only ones who get sunday or Christmas off? Or is the entire place shut down. If Christians were the only ones receiving sunday and christmas off I would have a problem with that also.If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #83 September 17, 2008 QuoteQuoteHow come you're selectively whining about Muslims and not about Christians, First off I'm not whining. Secnod because the article was about Muslims walkin off the job. Not Christians. Quotewho get far more preferential treatment (even if YOU personally don't)? What preferential treatment do they get in this situation? They get their holy-days off without having to ask. Seems like preferential treatment to me. QuoteI don't ever recall your complaining about Christians getting Sundays and Christmas off. What a lame example but I'll bite. Are christians the only ones who get sunday or Christmas off? Or is the entire place shut down. If Christians were the only ones receiving sunday and christmas off I would have a problem with that also. That's easily solved - give everyone a break who wants to go and pray. Then no-one is getting preferential treatment - just like Christmas. Fact is, you are so acclimatized to Sundays and Christmas that it didn't even occur to you that these favored Christians,... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #84 September 17, 2008 QuoteAre christians the only ones who get sunday or Christmas off? Or is the entire place shut down. If Christians were the only ones receiving sunday and christmas off I would have a problem with that also. So as long as they move everyone's break to sunset during Ramadan, you're fine with it? Cool. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #85 September 17, 2008 QuoteSo as long as they move everyone's break to sunset during Ramadan, you're fine with it? Cool. Wouldnt care. But the problem is the rest of the plant didnt want to take lunch 90 minutes after the start of the shift.If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #86 September 17, 2008 Let me ask you something. Why is it if a christian asks for something you spit in their face basically and tell them they dont deserve anything special but as soon as a muslim demands something others wont get you bend over backwards to defend them? Are you just stirring the pot or do you hate everything americans have that bad?If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #87 September 17, 2008 QuoteLet me ask you something. Why is it if a christian asks for something you spit in their face basically and tell them they dont deserve anything special but as soon as a muslim demands something others wont get you bend over backwards to defend them? Are you just stirring the pot or do you hate everything americans have that bad? That would be #26 You have to believe that all spirituality and all religions except Islam are bad. http://alohahawaii.home.att.net/leftwing.htmlPlease don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #88 September 17, 2008 Quote Quote Let me ask you something. Why is it if a christian asks for something you spit in their face basically and tell them they dont deserve anything special but as soon as a muslim demands something others wont get you bend over backwards to defend them? Are you just stirring the pot or do you hate everything americans have that bad? That would be #26 You have to believe that all spirituality and all religions except Islam are bad. http://alohahawaii.home.att.net/leftwing.html So if I think they all seem kind of dumb, I'm in the clear? Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #89 September 17, 2008 QuoteLet me ask you something. Why is it if a christian asks for something you spit in their face basically and tell them they dont deserve anything special but as soon as a muslim demands something others wont get you bend over backwards to defend them? Are you just stirring the pot or do you hate everything americans have that bad? I expect Christians to be treated just the same as everyone else. Right now they have a privileged position, but NOT on account of the Constitution. The OP shows this extremely well.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,114 #90 September 17, 2008 >But the problem is the rest of the plant didnt want to take lunch 90 >minutes after the start of the shift. That's fine. They can get a different job if they like. It's a free country. >Why is it if a christian asks for something you spit in their face basically >and tell them they dont deserve anything special . . . ?? They are ALREADY getting something special. That's fine. > but as soon as a muslim demands something others wont get you >bend over backwards to defend them? ?? Again, no need to "bend over backwards." Give Christians religious breaks if they want 'em (within reason) and give Muslims religious breaks if they ask for them (again, within reason.) Decades ago, Christian activists forced the US government to make Sunday a holiday for religious reasons, and no one has yet done that with Islam. Which is also fine. >Are you just stirring the pot or do you hate everything americans have >that bad? Muslims are Americans too. (To use your argument - why do you hate those Americans so much?) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #91 September 17, 2008 QuoteI expect Christians to be treated just the same as everyone else Hey John! We are over here! Now come back to people walking off the job becuase they wanted change the time of there break to pray that nobody else wanted.If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #92 September 18, 2008 QuoteQuoteI expect Christians to be treated just the same as everyone else Hey John! We are over here! Now come back to people walking off the job becuase they wanted change the time of there break to pray that nobody else wanted. Slice it any way you like, you cannot justify Christians getting their holy-days recognized while refusing it to other religions without appearing to be a hypocrite.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #93 September 18, 2008 So if 20 people demanded you stop one of your lectures in class so they could go pray and you would have no problem with that?If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #94 September 18, 2008 Quote Why the hell do you muslim bashers seem to think every muslim immigrated to the US. You do realize some are born here and others convert to the religion here, right? Blues, Dave P.S. Paging MarkHarju - Muslim bashing is occurring without you. Please insert insane death cult comment here. ROFLMFAOWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #95 September 18, 2008 QuoteSo if 20 people demanded you stop one of your lectures in class so they could go pray and you would have no problem with that? As a matter of fact, the university has made provision for Islamists to pray between classes.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #96 September 18, 2008 Generally followers of Islam are called Muslims. Islamists is a term generally used these days to describe Islamic extreamists. Where do you teach....Berkley? When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #97 September 18, 2008 QuoteAs a matter of fact, the university has made provision for Islamists to pray between classes. No! Not in between! They want you to stop class in the middle so they could go pray. Would you be in favor of that?If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 893 #98 September 18, 2008 Therein lies the issue. Hopefully he'll see that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #99 September 18, 2008 Quote Therein lies the issue. Hopefully he'll see that. Wanna bet?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
