christelsabine 1 #76 September 12, 2008 Quote ... Sounds like he got booted. Sounds like he does not need to show off. Or does not feel the necessity to present all details of his life to the public. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #77 September 12, 2008 Quote Keetle, meet Pot, Pot, meet Mr. Fernackerpan I don't post anonymously. You just have to click on the link.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TankBuster 0 #78 September 13, 2008 First of all whoever started this thread is a fucking idiot. The Air Force and our Guard and Reserve components who have the air defense tasking have always been focused on thwarting an attack from outside the US. Identifying an attack that originated within the US, using comercial airliners, was not part of the military mission. Even so, given the fog of war / confusion of that day, United 93 was only minutes from being shot out of the sky. I'm an old fighter pilot - and I'm glad I wasn't sitting in THAT cockpit. Unfortunately, we have now had to incorporate that scenario into the ROE. QuoteOh no, I served 1 term, I am not a spectator as most neo-cons seem to be. Who the hell are you? Can anyone here vouch for you? You have no information on your profile. IF what you say is true and you are a veteran, I have never known a veteran to spew anti American hate and bullshit like you do. Many disagree with current policy and that's fine, but given your level of bullshit it makes it hard for many of us to believe you. Edited to add. Well, I just looked at the entire thread for the first time, and it seems I'm not the first to question your authenticity. Apologies for the redundancy.The forecast is mostly sunny with occasional beer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #79 September 13, 2008 QuoteWhere's your First Amendment here? This web-site is private property. The First Amendment doesn't apply.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 892 #80 September 13, 2008 Fair enough Mr. Fernackerpan. But a number of us also do not post anonymously. Besides, you know I like to use a stir stick! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #81 September 13, 2008 Quote Edited to add. Well, I just looked at the entire thread for the first time, and it seems I'm not the first to question your authenticity. Apologies for the redundancy. That's funny right there. www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 892 #82 September 13, 2008 Looks like he got booted too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #83 September 13, 2008 Quote You misunderstand. What you are witnessing is a bunch of vets calling out someone whom they believe to be a fake. By not stating which branch he served in he is avoiding more specific questions which could potentially out him as a faker. Why do they think he is a fake? Terminology. My opinion is he is a fake as well. Actually, I don't think it is a guy. Women seem to be the only apologists who constantly defend Clinton in unrelated arguments. It is like they are driven to resolve some issue. "Hurricane Ike is punishing Texas... like Clinton was unfairly punished..." Quote Right, we impeach a president for a BJ and subsequnt lie It's one of those pointless and misleading timewasters that cause people to constantly restate the obvious facts. Perhaps she is a vet. There are people who are unsuccessful and bitter every venue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #84 September 13, 2008 QuoteI've simply NEVER met a Vet that wasn't proud enough of their service to pretty much brag about it. I've never met one ashamed of their service - even those with questionable service, actions, or discharges. I served in both regular Army and Army Reserves. I don't see anything about military service worthy of pride. I used to believe my service was something to be proud of, but the older I get, the better I understand why it wasn't. Of all the jobs I've held in life, soldiering was the least honorable, IMO. I don't hold military service against people, but I don't think it merits any extra respect or appreciation, either.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #85 September 13, 2008 QuoteActually, I don't think it is a guy. Dude! I think you're right! That would explain a lot actually.www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #86 September 13, 2008 I don't know man...I'm pretty proud of what I did while I was in. I have some pretty insane stories and fortunately none of them involve getting shot at.www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallingOsh 0 #87 September 13, 2008 Quote I served in both regular Army and Army Reserves. I don't see anything about military service worthy of pride. I used to believe my service was something to be proud of, but the older I get, the better I understand why it wasn't. Of all the jobs I've held in life, soldiering was the least honorable, IMO. I don't hold military service against people, but I don't think it merits any extra respect or appreciation, either. What led you to this conclusion? Nothing of military service is worthy of pride? I've had some shitty jobs and they've all had some level of pride. was there something specific that happened? Just curious -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #88 September 13, 2008 >>>>>>>>>>>>>First of all whoever started this thread is a fucking idiot. You did, did you forget already? >>>>>>>>>>>>>Who the hell are you? Can anyone here vouch for you? Vouch for me? BAhahahahahahahaha.... I have a note from my mommy, or in your language, my commander. >>>>>>>>>>>>>IF what you say is true and you are a veteran, I have never known a veteran to spew anti American hate and bullshit like you do. I seriously am a vet. Non-wartime, full VA benefits, etc... So welcome to expanding your horizons, but I don't hate the US, I just think it's a POS. I understand that in teh black/white world they're one-in-the-same, but I think that thins country used to be great and can be again, we just need to end this term, "neo-con" by voting out the crap that has fallen under that. Ike was a great, I would be a Republican if we had Ike-type politics, he was a real conservative, not this trash we now have calling themselves Republicans/conservatives. I would probably even stand and cross for the National Anthem, I will not do so now. It's your neo-con trash, you voted it in, not me. McSame is just an extension of that, a good ole boy from teh same school. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.Many disagree with current policy and that's fine, but given your level of bullshit it makes it hard for many of us to believe you. Well don't believe me, believe the data. Don't make this about me, make it about the events, the data, the state of this nation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Edited to add. Well, I just looked at the entire thread for the first time, and it seems I'm not the first to question your authenticity. Apologies for the redundancy. Don't make it about me. You want to go to PM and let it lose, have fun, I won't even respond, just laugh, so why not mak it about the issues? By getting mad, all you do is let me know I won. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #89 September 13, 2008 Quote Quote Where's your First Amendment here? This web-site is private property. The First Amendment doesn't apply. That's what Bush says about everything too..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #90 September 13, 2008 There, I changd my profile..... that should help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #91 September 13, 2008 Quote Quote Edited to add. Well, I just looked at the entire thread for the first time, and it seems I'm not the first to question your authenticity. Apologies for the redundancy. That's funny right there. Yea, I fell off my chair laughing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #92 September 13, 2008 >>>>>>>>>>>>>Actually, I don't think it is a guy. Women seem to be the only apologists who constantly defend Clinton in unrelated arguments. No, I have junk, I just checked, again. >>>>>>>>>>>>It's one of those pointless and misleading timewasters that cause people to constantly restate the obvious facts. I wrote about Clinton's BJ and subsequesnt lie, what did I ommit or misstate? He was impeached for lying to congress and obstruction of justice, as I wrote, BJ and subsequent lie. BTW, same thing your Scooter Libby did, was convicted not in a political forum with MUCH lower standards of proof and admissability rules, but Clinton was not convicted and Libby was......then of course the courteous commutation; full pardon comming to a theatre near you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>Perhaps she is a vet. There are people who are unsuccessful and bitter every venue. No, I'm a very good military vet; I've had a lot of practice and no shitbag to answer to . Pls, keep making this about me, I don't get this kind of attention at home or at work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #93 September 13, 2008 QuoteQuoteI've simply NEVER met a Vet that wasn't proud enough of their service to pretty much brag about it. I've never met one ashamed of their service - even those with questionable service, actions, or discharges. I served in both regular Army and Army Reserves. I don't see anything about military service worthy of pride. I used to believe my service was something to be proud of, but the older I get, the better I understand why it wasn't. Of all the jobs I've held in life, soldiering was the least honorable, IMO. I don't hold military service against people, but I don't think it merits any extra respect or appreciation, either. I agree. I look at at my sacrifice and the discipline I exhibited, but other than that the pride issue somewhat vague. I didn't write the direction that we took, I was just a passenger on the big ride. I will say that I really was dissappointed we never went to war while I was in, but in retro I'm relieved that I didn't as I wouldn't want to live with the guilt of being part of a political mess generted for profit, Imperialism,etc by our neo-cons. With that said, I wish I was part of teh greatest generation, they really had something to be prideful of. And again, the troops in all wars are heroes, they didn;t get to chose the war they fought within and the sacrifice/risk is the same, even if teh mission is shit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #94 September 13, 2008 Quote Quote Actually, I don't think it is a guy. Dude! I think you're right! That would explain a lot actually. Nope, I would post a pic of my junk if I didn't think you would like it so much. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #95 September 13, 2008 QuoteQuote I served in both regular Army and Army Reserves. I don't see anything about military service worthy of pride. I used to believe my service was something to be proud of, but the older I get, the better I understand why it wasn't. Of all the jobs I've held in life, soldiering was the least honorable, IMO. I don't hold military service against people, but I don't think it merits any extra respect or appreciation, either. What led you to this conclusion? Nothing of military service is worthy of pride? I've had some shitty jobs and they've all had some level of pride. was there something specific that happened? Just curious OMG, you need to emasculate him for not loving every second and connecting it to pride. We can't keep our lock-stepping going w/o some form of crucifixion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TankBuster 0 #96 September 13, 2008 QuoteDon't make it about me. You want to go to PM and let it lose, have fun, I won't even respond, just laugh, so why not mak it about the issues? By getting mad, all you do is let me know I won. Yeah, you "win." I should have known better than to tangle with the "Unknown Comic." Edited to Add: Lest you guys lose respect for me, I didn't go to PM with this dude(tte). I couldn't bear the thought of it laughing at me.The forecast is mostly sunny with occasional beer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #97 September 13, 2008 QuoteDon't make it about me. I don't need to, you're the one that keeps bringing up "I served one term"...so I called you out, and you dance...not unexpected, as this is the Internet...So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #98 September 13, 2008 QuoteQuoteDon't make it about me. You want to go to PM and let it lose, have fun, I won't even respond, just laugh, so why not mak it about the issues? By getting mad, all you do is let me know I won. Yeah, you "win." I should have known better than to tangle with the "Unknown Comic." Edited to Add: Lest you guys lose respect for me, I didn't go to PM with this dude(tte). I couldn't bear the thought of it laughing at me. Whatever you say, ma'am. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #99 September 13, 2008 QuoteQuoteDon't make it about me. I don't need to, you're the one that keeps bringing up "I served one term"...so I called you out, and you dance...not unexpected, as this is the Internet... I served 1 term, told you it was an Hon disch and I have full VA benes, what's the deal? Do you want my MOS/AFSC or what? It is such an insignificant fact that I served a term, but it beats dealing with the issues in the thread I guess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #100 September 13, 2008 don't hate the US, I just think it's a POS. All I needed to hear. You think this country is a PIECE OF SHIT? Funny how you still take your full VA bennies from this PIECE OF SHIT country. I'm this close to being banned for PA's. If I'm not mistaken even the hardcore libs would have a problem backing you on that statement. I would probably even stand and cross for the National Anthem, I will not do so now. So, when you're at a sporting event you sit? Where's that thread about douchebags..Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
